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Wed Jan 9, 2019, 06:24 PM

Wannabe Fact Checkers, tell us what Trump said from the oval that was clearly a lie.

And please don't respond with OPINIONS with which you disagree. Opinions which differ from yours are not automatically LIES!

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Reply Wannabe Fact Checkers, tell us what Trump said from the oval that was clearly a lie. (Original post)
Dumper Jan 9 OP
DDKick Jan 9 #1
jh4freedom Jan 9 #2
jh4freedom Jan 9 #3
HermantownHawk Jan 9 #4
jh4freedom Jan 9 #6
HermantownHawk Jan 9 #11
Independent.mind Jan 10 #13
Boston Jan 9 #5
jh4freedom Jan 9 #7
kevlar Jan 9 #9
FreeWheelBurning Jan 10 #15
kevlar Jan 9 #8
FreeWheelBurning Jan 10 #14
Dumper Jan 10 #16
Paradigm Jan 9 #10
Boston Jan 10 #12

Response to Dumper (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 07:14 PM

1. These fact checkers couldn't seem to find a lie from Hillary or BHO roflol

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Response to Dumper (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 08:13 PM

2. From the pro fact checkers at politifact.com

Trump quote: "Sen. Chuck Schumer, who you will be hearing from later tonight, has repeatedly supported a physical barrier in the past along with many other Democrats. They changed their mind only after I was elected president."

The Fact Check: This is Mostly False. The physical barrier Schumer has supported is different from the wall Trump has talked about.

In 2006, then-Senators. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Schumer voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which was signed into law by President George W. Bush. They authorized a fence along about 700 miles of the border between the U.S. and Mexico.

The Government Accountability Office reported U.S. Customs and Border Protection had constructed 654 miles of fencing by 2015. That includes the steel fence dividing Nogales in Arizona and Mexico, which is between 18 and 26 feet tall, according to the Associated Press.

The fence they voted for is not as substantial as the wall Trump is proposing — which is supposed to be higher, longer and more contiguous. In fact, Trump criticized the 2006 fence as too modest during the 2016 campaign.

"Now we got lucky because it was such a little wall, it was such a nothing wall, no, they couldn't get their environmental — probably a snake was in the way or a toad," Trump said. (Actually, the project didn’t face environmental hurdles; we rated that part of the claim Mostly False.)

Trump says the Democrats no longer support their previous position simply because he wants it. But Democrats have actually proposed $1.3 billion in additional funding for the fencing that was approved in 2006.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 08:17 PM

3. And...

Trump quote: "At the request of Democrats, it will be a steel barrier rather than a concrete wall."

The Fact Check: This is False. The border wall impasse is not over construction materials. There is no evidence that Democrats asked for a steel barrier. Democratic leadership affirmed there has been no request for a steel barrier.

Mick Mulvaney, Trump’s acting chief of staff, said during an interview on Meet the Press on Jan. 6 that discussions with Democrats "never even got to" the "definitional conversations" on the wall, like whether a steel fence may qualify.

Democrats have been pushing for other forms to secure the border, including the reinforcement of existing physical barriers, but have made no concessions on Trump’s border wall proposals.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 08:19 PM

4. So Pelosi and Schumer....

.....are keeping thousands of federal workers from their paychecks because they want a fence and not a wall?

Got it!

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Response to HermantownHawk (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 08:29 PM

6. Border fence at Nogales, Arizona/Mexico

That Obama, Pelosi, and Schumer voted for and President Bush signed into law:

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 10:33 PM

11. So...

......the they are flip flopping. Petty dems.......

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Response to HermantownHawk (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:44 AM

13. According to Trump's own words this is his doing:

"If we don’t get what we want, one way or the other, whether it’s through you, through military, through anything you want to call, I will shut down the government."

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 08:22 PM

5. True Statement: "Sen. Chuck Schumer, has repeatedly supported a physical barrier".


That's not a lie. He voted for it in 2006 Secure Fence Act and 2013 "gang of eight" Immigration legislation.

If Trump is talking about a slightly different form of a wall doesn't make that statement untrue, Schumer supported a physical barrier, as have most Democrats.

If you can just read and interpret English you can see the the "politifact" article does not in fact show that Trump lied about any of these statements.

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Response to Boston (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 08:33 PM

7. The Trump lie is that Schumer has changed his mind.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 09:09 PM

9. Schumer

lies depending on wind direction.

No we know who the Wannabe is.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 09:12 AM

15. Trump stated that Schumer " repeatedly supported"

Did Schumer repeatedly support a physical barrier or not? Yes he did. That makes Trump's statement true. Words mean things and repeatedly supported means repeatedly supported. It does not mean that Schumer still supports.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 09:07 PM

8. Sorry, they fail right out of the box.

"The physical barrier Schumer has supported is different from the wall Trump has talked about."

Barrier is fence, wall, moat, force field, what have you.

Mr Schumer is an expert at nothing, outside politics, dirty dem politics at that.

I believe the word you used elsewhere in your transparent propaganda was "effective"

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 09:09 AM

14. I didnt get past your first two paragraphs

The fact check states that Trump's statement is mostly false. Trump stated Schumer supported a physical barrier. The fact checker says Schumer's physical barrier is different thereby making Trump's statement mostly false. That is complete bullshit. Schumer supported a physical barrier and Trump said Schumer supported a physical barrier. It is as accurate a statement as can be made.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 10:27 AM

16. So, in order to make your point, you have to hold Trump to his year's old wall pledge, w/o

any of his recent adjustments? Was Obama allowed to amend his position against Gay Marriage?

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Response to Dumper (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 10:29 PM

10. Lib fake news fact checkers. Lol.

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Response to Dumper (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:21 AM

12. This is so childish. Stop the illegal activity, human and drug trafficking. Build a wall.



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