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Wed Jan 9, 2019, 10:06 PM

Voice of Hispanic America Salinas: Latinos Buying Trumps Arguments Against Illegal Immigration

Former longtime Univision anchor María Elena Salinas revealed on Tuesday evening that many Latinos are buying the arguments President Donald Trump is making about illegal immigration.

Salinas, whom the New York Times once described as the “voice of Hispanic America,” told CNN host Don Lemon after Trump’s Tuesday evening Oval Office address that she is saddened that Latinos “are buying some of these arguments against undocumented immigrants” that Trump has been making.

“And it’s very sad to see that our own people, who are immigrants themselves, are attacking these immigrants that are trying to come in, knowing themselves how difficult the situation is in a lot of these Latin American countries,” she continued. “And, you know, they’re buying it, and some people, just like some other Trump supporters, are saying, well, you know, so what if he tells lies, as long as we have lower unemployment among the Latino community.”

A December Associated Press report pointed out “the GOP’s position among Hispanics has not weakened during the Trump administration, despite the president’s rhetoric against immigrants and the party’s shift to the right on immigration.”

“Though Latino voters are a key part of the Democratic coalition, there is a larger bloc of reliable Republican Latinos than many think,” the Associated Press explained.

AP’s VoteCast data from the 2018 midterm elections reportedly found that “
32 percent of Latinos voted for Republicans” while other midterm election surveys “also found roughly one-third of Latinos supporting the GOP.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/09/voice-of-hispanic-america-salinas-many-latinos-buying-trumps-arguments-against-illegal-immigration/

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Reply Voice of Hispanic America Salinas: Latinos Buying Trumps Arguments Against Illegal Immigration (Original post)
rh24 Jan 9 OP
Red Bull Jan 9 #1
Gamle-ged Jan 9 #2
JaimeBondoJr Jan 9 #3
rh24 Jan 10 #4
Gamle-ged Jan 10 #5
FreeWheelBurning Jan 10 #6
Valishin Jan 10 #7
FreeWheelBurning Jan 10 #8
Valishin Jan 10 #9
FreeWheelBurning Jan 10 #10
Valishin Jan 10 #11
FreeWheelBurning Jan 10 #12
Valishin Jan 10 #13

Response to rh24 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 10:35 PM

1. I have people on my route

From Columbia, Venezuela and Mexico that came here legally. They want the illegals tossed in prison for at least 10 or more years and deported with a ban on not only them but their family's from ever coming back into the country.

Legal immigrant American citizens despise illegal aliens!

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Response to rh24 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 10:46 PM

2. "And its very sad to see that our own people, who are immigrants themselves, are attacking these...

... immigrants..."

She tries to blur and to obscure the difference between legal and illegal immigration, but the honest immigrants seem to be increasingly aware of the difference...

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Response to Gamle-ged (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 11:27 PM

3. Obfuscation is all they have.

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Response to Gamle-ged (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:11 AM

4. Not only that, but she is trying to create this Hispanic/Latino monolith that just does notexist

Mexicans and South Americans tend to have little regard for their Northern Triangle hombres for the most part. Not to mention how Caribbean Hispanics see themselves as very "distinct."






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Response to rh24 (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 08:41 AM

5. Democrats rode the White horse from their days of slaveholding, then LBJ switched them to...

... the Black horse when civil rights got hot. Now that Dems have sent their White and Black horses to the glue factory, they're hoping to ride the Brown horse to victory...

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Response to rh24 (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 09:39 AM

6. Nobody should be surprised by this

Members of the lower class are the ones most hurt by illegal immigration. They live have to live with it everyday. Then they come home from work, turn on the TV and see some dumb ass arguing in favor of keeping the status quo.

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Response to FreeWheelBurning (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 09:48 AM

7. What lower class?

We don't have definable classes

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Response to Valishin (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 10:12 AM

8. Are you serious?

You don't think there is a lower, middle and upper class in the US?

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Response to FreeWheelBurning (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 10:25 AM

9. That is correct

The US, and most of the western world for that matter are classless societies.

Feel free to provide what you believe to be the delineation for these so called classes if you believe I am incorrect.

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Response to Valishin (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 10:55 AM

10. Maybe you think I am referring to something like the Caste system in India

I am not.

A system similar to that is not what anyone is referring to when they refer to classes in the US. Classes in the US are essentially economic classes. Nobody says economic class, they just say class. For instance, nobody says they want to pass an "Economic Middle Class tax cut". They just say, "Middle Class tax cut".



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Response to FreeWheelBurning (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 12:53 PM

11. Feel free to define

The economic qualifiers for these so called classes. It should be entertaining, you won't be the first to try.

The reality is that what people attempt to define as class has a great deal more to do with influence than economics the problem is that distribution into groups aka classes based on data instead of intuition is next to impossible because of the dynamic nature of our society. Thus people who for political expediency want to break people into catagories create logical groupings with loose affiliations usually based on economics that do not hold up to basic scrutiny. But, please do try.

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Response to Valishin (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:04 PM

12. Here is one reference you can use

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/09/06/are-you-in-the-american-middle-class/

The link is to a calculator that is used to place you into it a class based on Pew's criteria. There is no universal set of criteria so Pew's breakdown will not mirror others.

Based on what you wrote in your reply, I am sure will spend some time picking apart the shortcomings in the criteria. Have at it but I will not be engaging in a back and forth on this.

The term class, as used in the US, is generally understood by the majority when it is used in the manner that I used it in my post.

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Response to FreeWheelBurning (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:22 PM

13. You are correct that

The criteria matters. For example, this criteria has a billionaire who lost money last year in the lowest classification, or an A list celebrity who didn't work on any projects but made a few bucks on residuals as being lower middle class. Politicians who wield enormous direct influence are often paid below middle class wages. The list goes on and on and on.

The problem politically with acknowledging the reality that we don't have classes is that it shoots a gaping whole in the class warfare narrative which is why people are willing to continue to use these terms incorrectly and lazely as it is needed to fill a gap politically.

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