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Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:43 AM

Steel slats FAILS the test.




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Reply Steel slats FAILS the test. (Original post)
Pennsylvania Jan 2019 OP
TheShoe Jan 2019 #1
Carlos W Bush Jan 2019 #2
TheShoe Jan 2019 #7
Dumper Jan 2019 #33
TheShoe Jan 2019 #34
Duke Lacrosse Jan 2019 #35
Duke Lacrosse Jan 2019 #3
brew9876 Jan 2019 #5
foia Jan 2019 #4
T-1000 Jan 2019 #6
Boston Jan 2019 #8
Lifelong Jan 2019 #9
Carlos W Bush Jan 2019 #23
Spitfire Jan 2019 #10
Squeek Jan 2019 #11
rampartb Jan 2019 #12
jh4freedom Jan 2019 #14
Carl Jan 2019 #15
jh4freedom Jan 2019 #17
Carl Jan 2019 #19
Nostrings Jan 2019 #27
outside Jan 2019 #29
kevlar Jan 2019 #32
nolidad Jan 2019 #13
jh4freedom Jan 2019 #16
Carl Jan 2019 #20
nolidad Jan 2019 #30
Charlie Mike Jan 2019 #31
Carl Jan 2019 #18
Jack Burton Jan 2019 #21
Carlos W Bush Jan 2019 #22
Jack Burton Jan 2019 #24
Carlos W Bush Jan 2019 #25
Jack Burton Jan 2019 #26
_eek Jan 2019 #28

Response to Pennsylvania (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:45 AM

1. Use tool steel

Quite a bit more expensive.

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Response to Pennsylvania (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:46 AM

2. Titanium is the only solution.

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Response to Carlos W Bush (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 12:01 PM

7. Thick naval aluminum plate.

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:12 AM

33. HOW ABOUT A HIGH ELECTRICAL CHARGE RUNNING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF

THE SLATS? That'd do the trick?

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Response to Dumper (Reply #33)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:06 PM

34. DEFINATELY WILL CHANGE THE DESIGN AND COST

Each slat will need a separate power supply. UNLESS YOU RUN A CONDUCTOR BETWEEN EACH SLAT.

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Response to Carlos W Bush (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:07 PM

35. Titanium is just as easy to saw through as steel.

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Response to Pennsylvania (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:47 AM

3. Ergo the logical course of action is to have no barrier on the border.

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:49 AM

5. Hahahaha

Lefties =

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Response to Pennsylvania (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:48 AM

4. Why not just use thermite or energy beams like the 9/11 conspirators did?

(I'm joking.)

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Response to Pennsylvania (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 12:01 PM

6. Doesn't seem like an insurmountable problem....

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Response to Pennsylvania (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 12:06 PM

8. What is being used in the hundreds of miles of fencing that HAS been successful in reducing

illegal immigration and crime?

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Response to Pennsylvania (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 12:16 PM

9. Oh boy.

Trump: “If I build a steel wall rather than a concrete wall, it will actually be stronger than concrete,”

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Response to Lifelong (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:19 PM

23. Steel has higher tensile strength than concrete.

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Response to Pennsylvania (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:07 PM

10. As a former design engineer -

I would posit that the reason "prototypes" are built is to find out what works and what doesn't.
If that design doesn't work then find one that will.
BTW - that doesn't appear to be cut with a common 'saw' - it appears to be cut with an oxy-acetylene torch (not that it matters I guess....).

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Response to Spitfire (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:26 PM

11. Which is why

the whole claim about this being a national emergency is so lame.


They don't even have a workable prototype, for crissakes. And they may have to come up with multiple prototypes depending on the geology.

They haven't even begun to figure out whose land they may have to seize by eminent domain, let alone gone through months or even years of court battles over it.


This whole thing smells fishy what with tRump insisting that he wants the money NOW and is willing to create chaos in order to get it.

What's up with that, I wonder...



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Response to Squeek (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:38 PM

12. if this is an emergency why aren't we piling up dirt and rocks on the border

with bulldozers ans entrenching tools?

why isn't the great wall of china a prototype?

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Response to Spitfire (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 09:45 PM

14. Common household tools were used

An internal February 2018 U.S. Customs and Border Protection report—a redacted version of which was first obtained in a Freedom of Information Act request by (San Diego Public Television station) KPBS—described a test run by the Department of Homeland Security in late 2017, in which D.H.S. employees were challenged to breach all eight border-barrier prototypes, both concrete and steel, with anything they had on hand. Per the report, all eight prototypes failed the test, with the steel-slat design favored by the president falling prey to a common saw."
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/border-fence-cut-through-with-saw-donald-trump

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 09:47 PM

15. A cutting torch is a common household tool?

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Response to Carl (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 09:51 PM

17. No but a saw is

And a saw is what was used.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 09:52 PM

19. The slats in that picture were not cut with a saw.

See the slag?

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Response to Carl (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:11 AM

27. I was just going to say...our friends powers of observation are failing him.

It's a good thing that under cover of darkness, the most likely of times to try dragging torches and tanks to the wall, that cutting steel doesn't create create bright light and flashes that can be seen ten plus miles away.

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Response to Carl (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:27 AM

29. Carl is 100% correct.

If it was cut with a common saw that you could buy at any Home Depot we would see video of them cutting the holes in the wall.

It's total BS.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:03 AM

32. Your lies are not being well recieved.

Transparent propaganda and bullshit narratives have been failing, why continue?

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Response to Pennsylvania (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 06:55 PM

13. I wonder how many illegals are going to bring

massive hand sawa or generators and steel bladed saws with them??? Maybe the next caravan will load that stuff up so they can cut through the wall.

or maybe they can just make the slats with a stronger alloy. I suppose after a few hours of hand sawing a CPB agent will show up

You can even punch through reinforced concrete with the right equipment!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 09:49 PM

16. That's why illegals hire teams of smugglers

For $7,000 each to get them across. Smuggling teams have the tools, the decoys to distract border patrol agents and safe houses on the American side.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 09:54 PM

20. Well good,while they are occupied trying to cut through them send them some lead.

Or should we not have bars in prison either?

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 07:46 AM

30. And the numbers that can afford the $7,000 are microminiscule.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 12, 2019, 08:01 AM

31. So, what you're saying is: they aren't poverty stricken.

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Response to Pennsylvania (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 09:52 PM

18. The poster His Daughter pointed out in another thread that those slats were cut with a torch.

As usual,she is correct.

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Response to Pennsylvania (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 10:33 PM

21. Just recreate what the Israelis did.

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Response to Jack Burton (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:17 PM

22. Doesnt do much to stop the rockets that Hamas frequently lobs at them.

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Response to Carlos W Bush (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:32 PM

24. I haven't heard Mexicans lobbing rockets across the border to be a big problem here.

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Response to Jack Burton (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:53 PM

25. Just saying.

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Response to Carlos W Bush (Reply #25)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:01 AM

26. A wall should be one point in a comprehensive immigration plan

1. Build the wall
2. Deport them all
3. End birthright citizenship to children born to illegal aliens, tourists, diplomats
4. End all federal programs, welfare, subsidies to illegals
5. Strictly enforce large fines for employers of illegals. That includes individuals who hire illegals for nannies, maids, landscapers, painters.
6. Reduce legal immigration by 90% for at least 20 years
7. End chain migration
8. Legal immigrants must show a clear needed skill set and meet minimum education levels. Also, show proof of vaccinations and pass a medical physical.

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Response to Carlos W Bush (Reply #22)

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:25 AM

28. These do.



and soon....





So, you were saying?


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