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Thu Jan 10, 2019, 02:16 PM

California has wildfires and earthquakes.

Why should I be required to pay for rescue operations for all the fucking idiots who choose to live there?

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Reply California has wildfires and earthquakes. (Original post)
Carlos W Bush Jan 10 OP
GoodKraic Jan 10 #1
Carlos W Bush Jan 10 #2
GoodKraic Jan 10 #5
Fred Sanford Jan 10 #3
freedumb2003 Jan 10 #4
jh4freedom Jan 10 #6
Carlos W Bush Jan 10 #7
sobek Jan 10 #9
bruiserboy Jan 10 #11
sobek Jan 10 #18
jh4freedom Jan 10 #14
Carlos W Bush Jan 10 #15
jh4freedom Jan 10 #17
sobek Jan 10 #8
jh4freedom Jan 10 #10
His Daughter Jan 10 #13
jh4freedom Jan 10 #16
JaimeBondoJr Jan 10 #12

Response to Carlos W Bush (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 02:19 PM

1. Do you feel the same for everyone who live in areas prone to

floods, hurricanes and tornadoes?

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Response to GoodKraic (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 02:21 PM

2. Yes, let the states take care of it.

And charge their residents exorbitant taxes to pay for it. Same goes for Florida.

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Response to Carlos W Bush (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 02:47 PM

5. Fair enough as long as youre consistent.

It shouldn’t be a red/blue state thing. Certainly something worth discussing.

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Response to GoodKraic (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 02:21 PM

3. Fred sure does.*

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Response to GoodKraic (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 02:37 PM

4. Heck yes -- FEMA should be disbanded

 

It is as stupid as the EPA and the NEA. HHS should only be monitoring drug/food standards. NIH should be privatized.


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Response to Carlos W Bush (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 02:57 PM

6. If you choose to live in a nation that's the way it works.

People in California have to pay for rescues and damage from floods, tornados, and hurricanes in the rest of the country.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:01 PM

7. All the rich people live in California, they can afford to pay more.

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Response to Carlos W Bush (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:06 PM

9. Jeepers, look at those chompers!

If you aren't circumsized yet, you soon will be.

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Response to sobek (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:13 PM

11. This was alerted, Voted too leave it

The people in this Country need too get a sense of humor and fast.

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Response to bruiserboy (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 05:46 PM

18. It's a little over the top so thanks.

There was no profanity in it, it's just a joke.

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Response to Carlos W Bush (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:11 PM

14. Maryland is the richest state

That's where all the rich high level federal employees live making fortunes off our tax dollars.
"Wealth in America: Where are the richest and poorest states based on household income?"
The Ten Richest States
10) Washington: $70,979 Median Household Income
9) Virginia: $71,535
8) California: $71,805
7) Alaska: $73,181
6) New Hampshire: $73,381
5) Connecticut: $74,168
4) Massachusetts: $77,385
3) Hawaii: $77,765
2) New Jersey: $80,088
1) Maryland: $80,776
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/economy/2018/10/08/wealth-america-household-income-richest-poorest-states/38051359/

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:15 PM

15. Interesting.

I'm surprised that New jersey is so high. But I guess outside of Newark it isn't all too bad.

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Response to Carlos W Bush (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:23 PM

17. The Garden State

Is home to people who work in New York City.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:04 PM

8. That's why Idaho is The Shire.

Lemme see here, no natural disasters at all in my lifetime, continental climate, very nice gun laws, oh yeah.

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Response to Carlos W Bush (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:11 PM

10. There are "donor" states, "taker" states and "break even" states.

Donor states send more federal tax money to Washington than they get back in services and grants. Taker states get more federal tax money from Washington than they send in federal taxes, and some states are just about even.
California is currently pretty close to a break even state.
"A majority of states are net takers, meaning that they receive more in federal spending per capita than they pay in federal taxes. On average, states receive $1.18 in benefits for every dollar that they pay in taxes. However, some states are net payers that pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits.

According to a report from the New York State Comptroller's Office, 13 states were net payers in fiscal 2016. New Jersey tops the list of net payers at a per capita deficit of $3,076, receiving just 76 cents for every dollar paid in federal taxes. The Garden State is followed in order of per capita deficit by North Dakota, Connecticut, New York, Wyoming, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Illinois, New Hampshire, Nebraska, South Dakota, California, and Texas."

"New Mexico is on top of the net taker states, with a per capita surplus of $9,693. The Land of Enchantment received $2.57 for every dollar paid in federal taxes, but it's not because they pay the lowest federal taxes per capita. That honor belongs to Mississippi at $5,557; New Mexico paid $6,182."

"For purposes of this study, what constitutes federal payments and benefits? There are five categories listed for federal taxes that constitute approximately $3.1 trillion, or 94% of all federal revenues. Individual income tax provides 47% of revenues at $1.541 trillion, while social insurance taxes such as FICA provide 34% of revenues at $1.106 trillion. Corporate income taxes contribute $300 billion, excise taxes add $95 billion, and estate/gift taxes add up to $21 billion.

On the side of paying out federal benefits, there are four major categories listed in the study that constitute 94% of all expenses. Direct payments such as Social Security and Medicare constitute 59% of all federal benefit payments. Grants (including Medicaid) make up another $655 billion, or 17% of federal spending. Government procurement adds $445 billion to spending (12%), while wages and salaries to government workers make up another $251 billion (7%)."
https://www.moneytips.com/is-your-state-a-net-payer-or-a-net-taker/356

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:10 PM

13. There is a lot of variance in the math on that topic depending on source.

Military units and salaries are often not included among other things.

My take is that it would be better to break it down into smaller sections. Parts of California are clearly takers, other parts givers. That kind of thing

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:22 PM

16. A state is a legitimate unit of measurement

For the purposes of figuring government statistics. For example, California has the most Fortune 500 companies corporate headquarters (54 corporations). Followed by New York (52) and Texas (52) so California pays the most corporate income tax. But personal federal income tax accounts for 48% of all federal revenue.
The more rural areas of most states are takers.

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Response to Carlos W Bush (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:03 PM

12. Are you an American Citizen, or just a citizen of the state you live in?

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