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Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:24 PM

CAVE IN!!!!


Trump has caved.

No SOTU for him.

No Wall for him.

So Much Winning!!!!!


Now claims he never proposed 2000 miles of wall along the boarder, video to follow.

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Reply CAVE IN!!!! (Original post)
Motownjohnny Jan 25 OP
MumblyPeg Jan 25 #1
Motownjohnny Jan 25 #25
MumblyPeg Jan 25 #30
Pennsylvania Jan 25 #2
Nostrings Jan 25 #4
Pennsylvania Jan 25 #8
Nostrings Jan 25 #13
KittyCatIdiots Jan 25 #21
_eek Jan 26 #41
Solesurvivor Jan 25 #3
TM999 Jan 25 #12
Squeek Jan 26 #42
TM999 Jan 26 #44
Motownjohnny Jan 25 #26
TM999 Jan 26 #45
Pennsylvania Jan 25 #5
LavenderGirl Jan 25 #36
KittyCatIdiots Jan 25 #6
JaimeBondoJr Jan 25 #7
KittyCatIdiots Jan 25 #9
PrescientWon. Jan 25 #10
LavenderGirl Jan 25 #11
JaimeBondoJr Jan 25 #14
KittyCatIdiots Jan 25 #18
LavenderGirl Jan 25 #19
JaimeBondoJr Jan 25 #29
foia Jan 25 #17
KittyCatIdiots Jan 25 #20
Motownjohnny Jan 25 #27
foia Jan 25 #33
blue Jan 25 #23
JaimeBondoJr Jan 25 #31
KittyCatIdiots Jan 25 #15
Tolk Jan 25 #16
john262 Jan 25 #22
LavenderGirl Jan 25 #35
john262 Jan 26 #38
Squeek Jan 26 #43
john262 Feb 10 #47
MumblyPeg Jan 25 #24
Motownjohnny Jan 25 #28
MumblyPeg Jan 25 #32
john262 Jan 26 #39
TM999 Jan 26 #46
fuel Jan 25 #34
Badsamm Jan 25 #37
fuel Jan 26 #40

Response to Motownjohnny (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:27 PM

1. so, you think this is the endzone, eh?

heheheh
and yea, keep arguing that flaccid point about building walls on the river and mountains... really. We were ALL duped into thinking he really was wanting to do that.
tic... tic... tic...

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 03:12 PM

25. That is what he ran on... it was stupid.


Honestly, he recently said something about 230 miles of additional barriers.

I can see that, and I am as far left as anyone you will ever meet (even online).

So long as eminent domain is not used and no environmental laws are broken, an additional 230 miles of barrier could be a reasonable proposal.

Until we get details on exactly what 230 miles he is talking about and what the cost will be, I can't agree or disagree with the idea. I am open to it though.

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Response to Motownjohnny (Reply #25)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 03:18 PM

30. well then it's a good think you aren't deciding. President Trump is.

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Response to Motownjohnny (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:27 PM

2. What a fucking disgrace.

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Response to Pennsylvania (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:28 PM

4. What are you going to do about it, vote dem?

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:31 PM

8. no just stop believing him.

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Response to Pennsylvania (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:34 PM

13. You need to exercise some patience, failing that, learn some.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 26, 2019, 03:46 PM

41. of course it will.

This little troll has never voted for a Republican.

Concern troll is always concerned.

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Response to Motownjohnny (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:28 PM

3. now that the shut down is over he gets his SOTU

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Response to Solesurvivor (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:33 PM

12. Exactly.

Pelosi has no valid reasons for denying him the SOTU. If she does, then he can do it elsewhere with impunity.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 26, 2019, 05:03 PM

42. He doesn't want to do it

elsewhere. If he had, he could have instead of threatening to show up in the chambers anyway.


Nope. To tRump, it's not a valid SoTU unless he gives it in the traditional place. Plus he wants the attention.

And the shutdown is not "over". It's just on hold for a few weeks.

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Response to Squeek (Reply #42)

Sat Jan 26, 2019, 05:20 PM

44. Nor would any president but that bitch Pelosi thinks she holds the cards. She does not.

He will do in the House. If she stops him, he will do it elsewhere. He holds the cards now. Don't project your own narcissism on to Trump.

It is over for now so there is no reason for Pelosi to not allow the SOTU. If she doesn't then she is saying flat out, I won't negotiate at all, so shut it back down. And guess what? It is now fully and completely the Pelosi government shutdown.

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Response to Solesurvivor (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 03:13 PM

26. When? That is up to Speaker Pelosi.


She can schedule it for March if she wants to.


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Response to Motownjohnny (Reply #26)

Sat Jan 26, 2019, 05:21 PM

45. No she can't.

The only 'control' she has now is tradition. Nothing in the Constitution gives her power of where or when. If she does not allow it on the traditionally held day, then Trump is under no obligations to respect her further. He can and likely will hold it elsewhere.

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Response to Motownjohnny (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:29 PM

5. Hahahahaha talking about duct tape again

Is this really happening?????


IS THIS FUCKING GUY FOR REAL!!????

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Response to Pennsylvania (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 08:37 PM

36. He has a thing about duct tape

And women being tied up.

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Response to KittyCatIdiots (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:30 PM

7. This hasn't been deleted yet?

You're slowing down.

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Response to Motownjohnny (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:33 PM

10. Just a coincidence that WH prepared National Emergency Docs?

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Response to Motownjohnny (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:33 PM

11. A shutdown that lasted 35 days for no wall funding

Donnie inflicted so much misery on hundreds of thousands of Americans, and for what? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

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Response to LavenderGirl (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:36 PM

14. Misery is a paid vacation.

A vacation whose paycheck comes after the return rather than before leaving.

Mmmkay.

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Response to JaimeBondoJr (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:40 PM

19. The havoc it caused to the country's aviation system finally made him cave

A major tactical defeat by the POTUS

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Response to LavenderGirl (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 03:18 PM

29. It still amounts to paid time off.

Wish I could get a paid 37 day vacation.

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Response to LavenderGirl (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:38 PM

17. Democrats have needlessly caused this and Trump will get the wall in the end

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Response to foia (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 03:16 PM

27. Even Trump is saying there won't be a wall.


He ran on a 2000 mile long cement wall, 30 feet high, paid for by Mexico and patrolled by Unicorns and Leprechauns. (OK, I added that last part but it is just as likely as the rest of it)

Now he is claiming that he never wanted a 2000 mile wall.

We also know it won't be paid for by Mexico.

It won't even be made of cement.


There will never be a wall.

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Response to Motownjohnny (Reply #27)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 03:20 PM

33. Please cite a quote from his campaign where he proposed a 2,000 mile wall.

Link or slink.

And the part about Mexico paying for it was hyperbole. When I voted for Trump I had no expecatation whatsoever that Mexico would pay for a wall.

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Response to LavenderGirl (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:57 PM

23. Uhhh, paid vacation? No dock in sick pay?

Nice non-interest loans from credit unions? Free months off of no bills?



Federal workers sitting very pretty right about now.

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Response to blue (Reply #23)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 03:18 PM

31. Yup. Paid.

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Response to Motownjohnny (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:38 PM

16. Nice spin

Who put that in your brain?

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Response to Motownjohnny (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:54 PM

22. Yes he caved but he will get to do the SOTU speech. n/t

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Response to john262 (Reply #22)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 05:48 PM

35. He will only if Speaker Pelosi agrees to it. n/t

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Response to LavenderGirl (Reply #35)

Sat Jan 26, 2019, 02:15 PM

38. She already said that one the shutdown is over his invitation will stand. n/t

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Response to john262 (Reply #38)

Sat Jan 26, 2019, 05:10 PM

43. It's not over.....

it's merely on hold for a while.

She could change her mind once the shutdown ends for good.

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Response to Squeek (Reply #43)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 08:21 PM

47. Looks like you were wrong.

She invited him and he gave the speech.

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Response to Motownjohnny (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 02:58 PM

24. womp womp waaaaa....

Keep trying to tell you guys... especially the DUmp hit-n-run characters.

Blinky has til Feb 15th to give him his money or he executes plan B.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #24)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 03:17 PM

28. He doesn't have the courage for plan B.


If he did he would have done it instead of caving.

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Response to Motownjohnny (Reply #28)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 03:19 PM

32. watch and learn kid

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Response to Motownjohnny (Reply #28)

Sat Jan 26, 2019, 02:18 PM

39. I agree. After the debacle of this first shutdown he won't try that again.

He will say he is not giving up on the wall but in effect he has for the time being. The only way to get the wall will be for him to win reelection and have the Republicans retake the House. Then he can claim a mandate and try again.

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Response to Motownjohnny (Reply #28)

Sat Jan 26, 2019, 05:22 PM

46. Bullshit.

You just don't understand negotiations and strategy. You think in childish tribalism terms. Well, let me correct myself. You have been told to think in childish tribalism terms.

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Response to Motownjohnny (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 08:44 PM

37. Yes, the cave he is digging in liberal assholes will be remembered for eternity

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