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Fri Feb 8, 2019, 12:19 PM

"Why We Should Amend The Constitution To Restrict The Presidents Power To Pardon"

An interesting read

http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/08/amend-constitution-restrict-presidents-power-pardon/

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Reply "Why We Should Amend The Constitution To Restrict The Presidents Power To Pardon" (Original post)
Independent.mind Feb 2019 OP
bruiserboy Feb 2019 #1
Independent.mind Feb 2019 #4
bruiserboy Feb 2019 #6
Independent.mind Feb 2019 #8
Dumper Feb 2019 #2
FreeWheelBurning Feb 2019 #3
Independent.mind Feb 2019 #5
def_con5 Feb 2019 #7
Independent.mind Feb 2019 #9
Squeek Feb 2019 #10
rahtruelies Feb 2019 #11
Carl Feb 2019 #12

Response to Independent.mind (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2019, 12:23 PM

1. An interesting read yes

But why now?

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Response to bruiserboy (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 8, 2019, 12:28 PM

4. I have no idea why it was published now

I saw it, read it, found it interesting and shared it.

What I found most interesting about it was the historical perspective, albeit limited.

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Response to Independent.mind (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2019, 12:31 PM

6. It is a very interesting read

But the timing in my opinion is a little suspect.

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Response to bruiserboy (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 8, 2019, 12:33 PM

8. I don't have an opinion on the author, don't know much about him

Here is some info on him:
"Kyle Sammin is a lawyer and writer from Pennsylvania, and the co-host of the Conservative Minds podcast. Read some of his other writing at his website http://kylesammin.com/"

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Response to Independent.mind (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2019, 12:25 PM

2. Go for it, just don't bother us in the interim.

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Response to Independent.mind (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2019, 12:28 PM

3. I love this part of the article

"Some thought these men paranoid at the time, but their complaints sound very similar to those who oppose President Trump today."

Is he trying to say that those who oppose Trump today are paranoid? It sure reads that way even though he intended the opposite.

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Response to FreeWheelBurning (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 8, 2019, 12:30 PM

5. I found this paragraph refreshing in it's take.

"People in the Founding era expected laws to be enforced. Unlike the elected prosecutors of today who routinely announce that this or that crime will not be prosecuted, the ideal in the founding era was that if a law was found to be bad, people should work to repeal it. In the meantime, though, zealous enforcement could ensnare people who did not deserve to be punished."

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Response to Independent.mind (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2019, 12:31 PM

7. Interesting and honest

The pardoning power is not restricted. But, is this really problem cause Roger Clinton was pardoned?

The Dems big fear is Trump pardoning all the colluders, Flynn,etc.

This amendment doesn't address that,

We don't need to amend the Constitution for this non-issue.

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 8, 2019, 12:34 PM

9. Info on the author:

"Kyle Sammin is a lawyer and writer from Pennsylvania, and the co-host of the Conservative Minds podcast. Read some of his other writing at his website http://kylesammin.com/"

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Response to Independent.mind (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2019, 12:38 PM

10. Pardons are good when

as the article states, they're used to redress a wrong conviction based on a bad law....not a political game.


I think Cohen's statement:


"The President shall not have the power to grant pardons and reprieves to himself, his spouse, any relative within four degrees of consanguinity, the spouse of any such relative, or any current or former officer of the United States whom he appointed to office."


on an amendment makes sense. There should not be a benefit to being related in some way to the president or having worked with the president.

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Response to Independent.mind (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2019, 02:36 PM

11. I would love to see the President use the Pardon Power to sparkplug a vigilance war to

crush the USA communists and their coup

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Response to Independent.mind (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2019, 02:49 PM

12. The article is an exercise in writing something to say one wrote something.

The basis for the article,which the author disagrees with on virtually every point,is such a monumental waste of time over a non issue except to virtue signal a better piece could have written about that.

It is clearly nothing but an anti Trump proposal that would have no chance of ratification in his time in office.
It seeks to remedy a problem that has not occurred often nor present any serious assault to our system.

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