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Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:27 PM

 

Trump Administration "loses" 1500 immigrant children

Thank God, he didn't lose some e-mails, like Hillary.

Amiright, Cons?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/18/us/politics/us-migrant-children-whereabouts-.html

The Lost Children of the Trump Administration
Why can’t the government account for how many children it separated from their parents at the border?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/family-separation-border-trump.html

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Reply Trump Administration "loses" 1500 immigrant children (Original post)
JoeHill Feb 10 OP
EagleKeeper Feb 10 #1
TheyLostTheirForums Feb 10 #2
Doctor_R Feb 10 #3
JoeHill Feb 11 #28
Doctor_R Feb 11 #46
D26-15 Feb 10 #4
Da Mannn Feb 10 #5
foia Feb 10 #6
JoeHill Feb 11 #29
foia Feb 11 #32
JoeHill Feb 11 #34
foia Feb 11 #35
JoeHill Feb 11 #36
foia Feb 11 #38
docgeezer Feb 11 #39
JoeHill Feb 11 #40
docgeezer Feb 11 #47
_eek Feb 11 #48
bfox74 Feb 10 #7
JoeHill Feb 11 #37
bfox74 Feb 11 #41
JoeHill Feb 11 #42
bfox74 Feb 11 #44
Nostrings Feb 10 #8
Grumpy Pickle Feb 11 #27
JoeHill Feb 11 #30
Nostrings Feb 11 #43
def_con5 Feb 10 #9
spike61 Feb 10 #15
def_con5 Feb 10 #16
JoeHill Feb 11 #31
MumblyPeg Feb 10 #10
TheyLostTheirForums Feb 10 #11
Paradigm Feb 10 #12
USNRET1988 Feb 10 #13
spike61 Feb 10 #14
quad489 Feb 10 #17
TM999 Feb 10 #22
Carlos W Bush Feb 10 #18
Lumster Feb 10 #19
oldenuff35 Feb 10 #20
JaimeBondoJr Feb 10 #21
JoeHill Feb 11 #33
JaimeBondoJr Feb 11 #49
CornFed Feb 10 #23
Magyar Heidinn Feb 10 #24
sobek Feb 10 #25
Grumpy Pickle Feb 11 #26
Steelydamned Feb 11 #45
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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:31 PM

1. So that's where all those cheeseburgers came from.*

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:32 PM

2. Many dont care about that*

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:33 PM

3. Obama administration placed children with human traffickers, report says

The Obama administration failed to protect thousands of Central American children who have flooded across the U.S. border since 2011, leaving them vulnerable to traffickers and to abuses at the hands of government-approved caretakers, a Senate investigation has found.

The Office of Refugee Resettlement, an agency of the Department of Health and Human Services, failed to do proper background checks of adults who claimed the children, allowed sponsors to take custody of multiple unrelated children, and regularly placed children in homes without visiting the locations, according to a 56-page investigative report released Thursday.

And once the children left federally funded shelters, the report said, the agency permitted their adult sponsors to prevent caseworkers from providing them post-release services.

Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) initiated the six-month investigation after several Guatemalan teens were found in a dilapidated trailer park near Marion, Ohio, where they were being held captive by traffickers and forced to work at a local egg farm. The boys were among more than 125,000 unaccompanied minors who have surged into the United States since 2011, fleeing violence and unrest in Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.




Full article here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/obama-administration-placed-children-with-human-traffickers-report-says/2016/01/28/39465050-c542-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html?utm_term=.347055711451

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Response to Doctor_R (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:48 AM

28. In case you haven't noticed, Obama isn't president any more.

 

You can't blame Obama for what President Pus Pocket does.

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:53 AM

46. I don't recall your

posts on this subject when big ears was pretending to be president.

You wouldn't be a hypocrite, would you?

As has been explained numerous times in this thread, they aren't "missing". They were turned over to relatives. What those relatives did with them is none of my, or your, business.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:35 PM

4. Hint: Don't drag your children to the border expecting free schit.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:36 PM

5. NyTimes is a Fake News outlet. Propaganda.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:38 PM

6. Your thread title is missing the word illegal

All of those parents would have their children if they hadn't decided to illegally enter the US.

And neither the parents not the children would be burdening US taxpayers with the cost to apprehend, take care of and deport them.

Fuck those parents. Any hardship brought upon those children is their parents' fault.

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Response to foia (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:50 AM

29. Are you listening to yourself. People who come here illegally

 

deserve to have their children taken away and given to someone else?

Is that the RepubliCon position now?

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:51 AM

32. Stop making shit up. That's not what I posted.

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Response to foia (Reply #32)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:54 AM

34. It sounded like it to me. Feel free to clarify, if you can. BUT

 

if you don't think they deserve to have their children stolen, then good, you agree with me and the original post.

Thank you.

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #34)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:07 AM

35. To start with they do not have their children "stolen" from them.

If a citizen breaks the law and is incarcerated then their children are not incarcerated with them. The children are separated from their parents.

Unless they are mentally deficient, illegal immigrant parents know full well that they are breaking the law by entering the US illegally. They can easily avoid breaking the law by not entering the country illegally.

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Response to foia (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:10 AM

36. When they don't get their children back, that's not "stolen"?

 

Maybe the Trump ICE is just "borrowing" the children.

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #36)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:18 AM

38. Did you even bother to read the article in your OP?

"Their sponsors — who are usually parents or family members and in all cases have been vetted for criminality and ability to provide for them — simply did not respond or could not be reached when this voluntary call was made.”

It's not the government "stealing" children, it's the kids' families and the parents themselves not bothering to report that's the issue.

Once again, you're just making shit up.

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:20 AM

39. Google Justina Pelletier, the Diegel sisters, &

Isaiah Rider (not the NBA player). These are examples of CITIZEN family separation. These happened during previous administrations, so they're not just a Trump thing. It's sad that so few people care if their partisan prejudices aren't involved.

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Response to docgeezer (Reply #39)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:23 AM

40. Some bad examples of the past in no way justify the systematic abuse of this administration.

 

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #40)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 01:05 PM

47. These examples are in no way intended to justify mistreatment of anyone.

My intent is to show that systematic abuse of families and children exists, and has existed for many years. I am dismayed because the left, in particular, has ignored this long-standing domestic abuse in favor of politicizing the currently more visible situation among illegal entrants on the border. It's the concentration on the 'I hate Trump' or the 'no border, no wall, no USA at all' agendas in place of the support of ordinary people that used to be the focus of the liberal end of the spectrum that bothers me. The reason I post on this site is the argument presented by pnwmom (not highly regarded on this site, I believe) on DU criticizing the left for not supporting Ms. Pelletier. Also, it's not just these 3 cases that are so disturbing. I read that there are something like 17,000 similar cases about which neither end of the ideological spectrum appears to give a rat's derriere while concentrating all their attention on the illegal entrants.

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 01:09 PM

48. Look, a lie.

Prove that this clerical error gave children away..

You can't, so again I catch you in a lie.

Stop lying Joe Hill

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:41 PM

7. Where are the immigration applications for these children?

If they came here legally I'm sure there's a a paper trail.

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:11 AM

37. If I steal an apple from your apple tree, do you have the right to shoot me?

 

Same deal. You don't get to steal somebody's kids just because the parents committed an illegal act.

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #37)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:25 AM

41. No, but if you fall out of my apple tree while stealing apples and break your leg, I'm not to blame.

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #41)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:29 AM

42. These people didn't lose their own kids. Someone took them.

 

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:47 AM

44. Uh huh

Would they have been take had they stayed at home?

Maybe should ask some coyotes.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:46 PM

8. If they hadn't come here illegally, they wouldn't be in US custody to be lost.

But they get a pass from old joe, because orange man bad.


Amirite?

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:59 AM

27. ...

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:50 AM

30. May what you wish for others happen to you.

 

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:29 AM

43. I wish for others, a return to constitutional fundamentals.

So thanks, I suppose.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:55 PM

9. Here we go again

Last edited Sun Feb 10, 2019, 07:27 PM - Edit history (1)

No children were separated from their parents at the border. We are not sending press gangs into Mexico to kidnap children.

There are illegal alien children in US custody for two reasons.

They enter the country illegally unaccompanied and are picked up by CBP(not ICE). Generally speaking these kids are not prosecuted and held for a relatively short period of time (usually about 2 weeks) until placed with a relative of into foster care. And somehow this is Trump's fault for not know where the parents are? What kind of parent turns their kid over to an unknown smuggler? About 75% of the kids in custody are unaccompanied.

2nd) Parents are arrested for entering the country illegally accompanied by their minor children. Subsequent to the arrest, parents are separated from their minor children. This is not new or different we have been separating children from their parents since we have been arresting parents. Still are, and it has nothing to do with the border. About 5,000 female US citizens are separated from their young children every year in this country. Those kids are placed with other family members or foster care.

There is nothing unique or different at the border. Get arrested, you lose access to your kids.

What would you do differently? Family jail?

Why no concern for the US kids ripped from their mother's arms?

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 07:23 PM

15. Mika prefers to use the term "ripped" from their mothers.

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Response to spike61 (Reply #15)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 07:26 PM

16. Thanks, I'll correct my post.

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:51 AM

31. Link?

 

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:55 PM

10. soo... Trump lost his personal notebook where he kept track of how he was enforcing

obamas ingratiation policy?
is that what you're attempting to communicate here?
I'll call President Trump and tell him he needs to keep better track of his notebook that lists all the illegal invaders parasite kids.
In addition, I'll tell him to stop separating them, and start locking all the children up in the same cells with the adults so they dont get "lost" anymore, k?

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:56 PM

11. Wish they would lose more*

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 06:59 PM

12. NYT. Lol.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 07:22 PM

14. Oh horseshit. They're not "lost" at all; they're with the families they were placed with.

And by the way, tough shit. If you put your kids in the position that they may be taken from you, then YOU are responsible. Just like robbing a bank with the kids in the back seat; you lose them.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 07:51 PM

17. LOL @ your lying POS sources...odds are they eagerly took advantage of Trumps tax code too...

"Caitlin Oakley, a spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Human Services, offered a response to the findings on Tuesday night. “As communicated to members of Congress multiple times,” she said, “these children are not ‘lost.’ Their sponsors — who are usually parents or family members and in all cases have been vetted for criminality and ability to provide for them — simply did not respond or could not be reached when this voluntary call was made.”"

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Response to quad489 (Reply #17)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 08:19 PM

22. So Joe is caught lying again.

Voluntary calls and some didn't respond. I wonder why? Oh, maybe it is because there are other illegals at the address or in contact with family here.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 07:55 PM

18. Points for spelling "loses" correctly.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 08:00 PM

19. They were already lost.

NT

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 08:04 PM

20. I see you and your BS posts are back, well, it was quiet and sane while it lasted.

So many idiots on the left have never read, made up, or fantasized the big lies to tell over and over again to the brown shirt left wing morons who drool and await the next bald faced lie of the week.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 08:11 PM

21. They're not in shallow graves in the desert...

so who the fuck cares where they are?

EVERYONE knows they're being well fed, clothed, and housed.

So who the fuck cares where they are?

Fly C-17s over Mexico and points south loaded with pamphlets TELLING the people if they bring their children north they might not see them again.

And who the fuck cares where they are?

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Response to JaimeBondoJr (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:52 AM

33. But what if they wanted an abortion?

 

By golly, you'd stop that crime against nature.

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:08 PM

49. Are abortions performed ANYWHERE south of the border?

Let them to there.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 08:23 PM

23. Ask Gov. Northam

I hear he “takes care of” such matters, maybe even while in blackface.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 08:27 PM

24. Hopefully, wherever these children are they are better off without their

Irresponsible shitheel criminal trespassing parents.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 08:39 PM

25. Trump didn't lose them, their coward parents did.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 12:57 AM

26. Bullshit.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:53 AM

45. Dude...

...it says, in the very link you provided, that the kids are not "lost." I mean, you did read your own links right?

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2019, 10:17 PM

50. If you actually cared you wouldn't encourage the invaders to come here.

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