Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:06 PM

China has no use for democracy. It needs a strong leader like Xi Jinping right now


Does it have to be this way? Could China elect its leaders democratically like we in the US do, where even those who oppose Trump largely concede that he was elected by the people’s will?

Putting aside the question of whether China even has the institutional capacity to support a democracy, or any indications of a democratic reform mindset, at either the grass-roots or government levels, it doesn’t seem that the nation could support a democracy. China lacks the ideological framework under which democracy could spontaneously develop or be fostered. Confucianism is inherently undemocratic; it encourages obedience, not freedom or personal liberty.

China’s social credit horrifies the West. But do the Chinese even notice?

Most strikingly, China lacks any history with democracy or true representative government and the rule of law. Prior to the establishment of the Republic of China, China was ruled for thousands of years by successive dynasties. Even the Republic of China could not be categorised as democratic, as the people had no say in choosing its leadership. Further, it did not establish definitive control over vast swathes of Chinese territory.

Instead, many areas of China descended into rule by warlords following the Qing collapse. China’s large population, stretched over a wide area separated by geological, societal and climatic boundaries, fosters a government that rules through authoritarian means, where power is taken by those with the strength to do so, not because of the people’s will.

Understanding these realities of leadership in China, it becomes apparent that regardless of how Xi was selected, he is the leader that China needs right now. The crime and corruption that accompanied reform in China threatened to collapse the government in on itself. Further, with the US president leaning increasingly towards hawkish China policies, China cannot afford weak leadership.

At this critical junction, coinciding with the 70th anniversary of the establishment of the People’s Republic of China, Xi is the right person to lead China.


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Reply China has no use for democracy. It needs a strong leader like Xi Jinping right now (Original post)
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Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:08 PM

1. Well, probably what's in Red China right now is the best Red China can expect.

It's too bad we let down the Free Chinese under Chiang Kai-shek in 1945-1949, but well, that's water past the dam now.

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 09:20 PM

2. Free Chinese? Under Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek? Surely you jest.

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Response to Troll2 (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 10, 2019, 10:31 PM

3. ".....Surely you jest....."

Of course I jest; it's nice to know someone from the other side "gets" sarcasm or irony or other nuance. I'd been despairing of you people.

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Sun Feb 10, 2019, 11:14 PM

4. China would NEVER have achieved what they have in the last in a USA style democracy . . .

One of my best friends who is now retired was a History teacher for decades said Democracy is a slow messy governing style, and the best gov't would be under a benevolent dictator, working for the betterment of his people as a whole . . .

Sure they got them "reeducation" camps, but the USA has millions of illegal aliens draining the economy as well as killing tens of thousands in other countries, and bringing home thousands of it's own citizens damaged physically and psychologically by what they've seen and done in/to other countries citizens - and vets are poorly cared for- often ignored . . . . . ( I had a friend that took me to visit at the VA wile I lived in CA 79 - 80 for 14 months - I was horrified by what I saw/heard/smelled, and I suspect that was not the wost VA hospital in the States at the time, and possibly not as bad as some of the hospitals are to this day

and then there's the other "class" - never make it to the hospital and die lonely and afraid sumwhere, or just blow their brains out . . .

Anyhoo . .

Trump may well end up IMPROVING the lot for USA's citizens, maybe not with his "weird" behavior, but in who/what follows his term(s) -

OH YEAH - he may well be elected for another term, while the Democrats continue to eat their own . . . .



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