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Mon Mar 11, 2019, 05:37 PM

Remember gang, Hitler was an extreme nationalist who

1. Came to power by appealing to that part of the electorate who felt Germany was getting a raw deal from other nations

2. Placed Germany First over any national interests of other countries

3. Stressed the superiority of the German culture

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 05:40 PM

1. A great socialist democrat if there ever was one

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 05:43 PM

2. He also had girlfriends. OMG! EVERYONE WITH A GIRLFRIEND IS LITERALLY HITLER!

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 05:50 PM

3. Yeah...

1. That meant basically the entire country.

2. Every country in the workd still does that.

3. Every country in the world is ethnocentric to its own interests. Ever heard people from Fiji say, "Fuck being Fijian, Luxembourg is where its at."

Try again.

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Response to GoldwatersSoul (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 06:05 PM

9. So your interpretation of Merkel's platform is

Germany First in the same way Trump’s platform is America First? Really. That will be news to the multitude of posters here who have characterised Merkel as a traitor to the German people.

Additionally, you ignored the fact that Hitler’s platform was other countries are being mean to us. I’m not sure that is an important part of the winning parties’ platforms in France, Germany or the Netherlands.

Yahweh, I hope you are better than this at the LSE! Presuming you’re not too tired to remember how many university degrees you have.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 06:33 PM

13. Practice over rhetoric....

Merkel says germany first but her actions dont exactly show such a thing. Trump is seeking his own way but it is decidedly an entity he believes promoted american interest. While he uses a lot of rhetoric he certainly puts action behind his words alot of the time.

Hitler was right. In fact some countries warned against the Versaille Treaty blaming Germany for WWI and making the terms so onerous.

The cou tries you named may not have had the historical need to push the idea that countries are mean to them. But all the aforementioned countries used Russia as a political foil in election for most of the 20th century. It is all about what cards you are dealt.

Well I am a comparative economist. I welcome you to visit me at LSE. Beers, Babes, and a Scotsman or two.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 09:31 AM

38. You are so right

Some country leaders suck

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Mon Mar 11, 2019, 05:52 PM

5. You shouldnt put that kind of thing in your ass.

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Response to GoldwatersSoul (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 06:11 PM

11. It's what you do when you flunk out of coding class.

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Response to GoldwatersSoul (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:18 AM

26. Oh shes had much bigger

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #26)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:10 PM

54. *chuckle*

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 06:00 PM

7. Hitler had a mustache and was a vegetarian

Trump doesn't and isn't.

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Response to foia (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 09:32 AM

39. Hitler took away the people's guns

Can't be all bad, eh?

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 06:04 PM

8. Rose to power

On the promise of free healthcare and education and blamed the worlds problems on Jews.
It's like todays leftist leadership is working right from his playbook and taking full advantage of the ignorance and weak mindedness of their followers.

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Response to Tolk (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 10:53 PM

23. He did not blame the world's problems on the jews.

He blamed the disruption in Germany at the time on the BOLSHEVIK jews who were infiltrating Germany from the USSR.

A fact that is rarely talked about.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 08:31 AM

33. So, he only exterminated BOLSHEVIK Jews, then?

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #33)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 09:34 AM

40. LOL

BAM

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 09:28 AM

36. Pick up a book.

Maybe even his own words...

You have it backwards, he blamed Bolshevism itself on the Jews.

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Response to _eek (Reply #36)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 10:41 AM

46. Yes, I KNOW that .....

Bolsheviks from USSR were trying to take over Germany in the 1920's.

Hitler was the opposing party....he din't want the foreign invaders in Germany.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 07:18 PM

14. 4. Used national gun registration information to gather up all the guns from Jews and anyone else...

...the nazis deemed as a threat.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 07:37 PM

15. Hitler was Hitler, Trump isnt Hitler, Bush isnt Hitler

Ilhan Omar seems CAPABLE of being Hitler but Nancy says we’re just misunderstanding her

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 08:15 PM

17. Did I mention Trumpie? Bush Jr.? Not me.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 08:32 AM

34. Trust us, we know you. You would have gotten around to it.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #34)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:47 PM

61. No actually I would not have

This thread is too much fun to bring politics into it.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #61)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:34 PM

79. Oh, *yes* you would have. Couldn't resist.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #79)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:02 PM

80. Why would I? It has been far too much fun watching Righty making the connection for me

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 09:39 AM

42. Obama would have confiscated everybody's guns in a heartbeat

If he thought he could get away with it. So, Obama resembled Hitler more in that respect

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 07:41 PM

16. Naziism was neither left nor right wing.

Yes, it was called National Socialism, and they were hardly free market advocates, but they were just as opposed to Marxist international socialism.

Yes, they were ethnocentric, but if that is what is going to define a right wing ideology, then the Soviet Union was as far right as they come with their programs of demographic replacement among the constituent republics.

Face it, people who want to claim Naziism as left or right-wing ideologies aren't doing so intellectually honestly, but just to engage in guilt-by-association for the party they happen to dislike.

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Response to TendiesForBreakfast (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 09:40 AM

43. Socialism is Left Wing

You can't deny that

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Response to TendiesForBreakfast (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 11:36 AM

50. Economically.

the Nazis swung left. Heavy government intervention. Promotion of industry in benefit of the state.

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Response to TendiesForBreakfast (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 04:04 PM

72. Absolutely correct.

Thanks so much for pointing that out. So much of the back-and-forth about Nazism here has been under-informed bilge.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 08:21 PM

18. Nothing wrong with those positions

It's the whole Lebensraum and kill all the Jews things that were evil.

Any nation or leader that does not work from a nation-first position and believe in the inherent superiority of their nation over others is probably unsuited for office.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 08:31 PM

19. Mostly....

.....Hitler blamed another race for the all the ills of his people. He was obsessed with race and places all the blame for the German’s plight on one particular group who he felt took advantage of the German people.

Rather than holding themselves accountable for the situation they were in, the Nazis focused on placing blame on a race other than their own.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 09:46 PM

20. Germany didn't start WW1.....that was the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Russia.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 10:21 PM

21. Germany wanted plausible deniability

so they kept it quiet, but they were pushing the Austrians hard at the ministry level and gave firm guarantees they'd come in immediately. Austria feared the Russians. They would not have moved without German backing.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #20)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:17 AM

25. Actually Serbia started it by sending assassins to Murder Franz Ferdinand and his wife

The Austro hungarians were justified to go for the throat after one of their leaders was murdered by a Serbian under Serbian Intelligence orders


But Serbs typically are murderers and cowards

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #25)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:36 AM

29. Who was the " Black Hand " that supported Gavrilo Princip

The core group was never identified.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #29)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 09:36 AM

41. Yeah, we have no idea who Apis is....




Seriously man, have you ever picked up a book that wasn't published by RiverCrest...

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Response to _eek (Reply #41)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 10:43 AM

47. Ok, I'll bite....who is Apis ?

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #47)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 11:22 AM

49. Apis real name was...

Dragutin Dimitrijević, a Serbian Col. and the head of the 1903 Military coup that overthrew the Serbian government.
He personally organized and participated in the coup, and regicide of King Alexander and his wife
and was leader of the Black Hand group responsible for the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragutin_Dimitrijevi%C4%87

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hand_(Serbia)

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Response to _eek (Reply #49)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 09:21 PM

76. Thank-you.

I was suggesting who was behind the group.....Russians. Imo.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #76)

Wed Mar 13, 2019, 09:31 AM

78. How can you have an opinion when you don't know any of the facts?

Did you even read the links I provided?

That is a very basic overview of the organization, but it has more information in it than you seem to have.

Please read it and some of the links to get a better, if basic overview of the time...

And no, it was not the Russians...

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #29)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:32 PM

59. Dimitrijevic was Serbian Army

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #59)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 09:24 PM

77. Yes, I know.

I am suggesting another group from another country was fomenting revolution as weell and that the two could have had ties.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2019, 10:47 PM

22. and CW loses another debate.

Thats what happens when you depend on NPC materials for you argument.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 10:22 AM

44. What debate? What argument?

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:14 AM

24. Name a National leader who placed a foreign culture/ Interests above his own nations?

And Germany WAS getting a raw deal in the 1920's from the Versailles treaty

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #24)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:37 AM

30. Agree.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:26 AM

27. None of which

is inherently a negative. What he did with that power is the problem.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:32 AM

28. Same as every other Authoritarian in history.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:37 AM

31. Deflection much, or outright lie. Hitler was a socialist democrat.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 06:44 AM

32. Well when Herr Trump

approves of Crystalnacht and burns down the bundegstat , I guess we will worry. But if he bans the democrat party- He does America a favor!!!!

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 09:26 AM

35. And if, on Aug 25th, 1939 had a suffered a lethal aneurysm...

would be regarded as one of the greatest statesmen in history.

None of the 3 things you mentioned are intrinsically bad things, the first being the absolute truth. The other things not listed, that are not in play today, those are the things History has taken exception to.

But nice argument, I am sure it would gain traction with a more ignorant audience.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 09:29 AM

37. Do you have a point?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #37)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 10:23 AM

45. I simply stated three facts about Hitler. No point.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #45)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 03:13 PM

66. Thats what I thought

a waste of bandwith

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Response to oflguy (Reply #66)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 03:25 PM

67. Obviously you don't need to participate if that is your opinion.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #67)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 03:38 PM

70. Obviously you don't need to post if there is no point to it

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:52 PM

52. I see we have an entry for the stupidest thread of the day prize.

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Response to Carl (Reply #52)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:06 PM

53. Poor Carl. All I did was State a few facts about Mr. Hilter

Why do you have a problem with that?

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #53)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:11 PM

55. OMG...Hitler loved dogs too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blondi

Everyone that loves dogs must be like Hitler!!!!!!

Yeah,my assessment of the thread was accurate.

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Response to Carl (Reply #55)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:42 PM

60. See how easy it is Carl? Now you're getting into the spirit!!!

I like your example much better than that of your feller Clubhouser. Let me play. Hilter also painted. Your turn.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #60)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:30 PM

62. Sorry,I just rather mock infantile threads.

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Response to Carl (Reply #62)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:43 PM

63. See, Carl we're a lot alike. I love mocking infantile threads

and infantile posts as well.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #63)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:48 PM

64. .

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Response to Carl (Reply #64)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 03:05 PM

65. Completely agree Carl. Don't you just love mocking those infantile threads about

demos, primitives, and lorgnette wearing Liberals with the cutesy names? They are a joy to mock, don’t you agree?

(Sorry, I only have patience for one)

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #65)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 03:29 PM

68. I prefer mocking ones by folks embittered they were never one of the cool kids.

Paying for it doesn`t count either.

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Response to Carl (Reply #68)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 03:35 PM

69. Awww, Carl. You must find all those posts about DU infantile

But you’re correct. It’s been my lifelong dream to spend my time in the middle of nowhere mocking another website — losers fixated on another group of losers — instead of travelling the world.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #69)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 04:00 PM

71. Oh the irony.

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Response to Carl (Reply #71)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 04:04 PM

73. Indeed. And, should one wish to become a celebrity in ones own mind, one can increase

the irony even more by posting about all those posters who have one on Ignore! Great irony indeed.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #73)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 04:21 PM

74. There goes that irony meter into warp drive again.

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Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:16 PM

57. And an entry for stupidest post of the day.

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