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Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:17 PM

12 Republican Senators side with the Democrats

In voting against the Trump Border National Emergency plan.
Lamar Alexander (TN), Roy Blunt (MO), Susan Collins (ME), Mike Lee (UT), Jerry Moran (KS), Lisa Murkowski (AK), Rand Paul (KY), Rob Portman (OH), Mitt Romney (UT), Marco Rubio (FL), Pat Toomey (PA), and Roger Wicker (MS).

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Reply 12 Republican Senators side with the Democrats (Original post)
jh4freedom Mar 14 OP
Ruby Mar 14 #1
PrescientWon. Mar 14 #2
Ruby Mar 14 #3
planetX Mar 14 #8
Ruby Mar 14 #11
uncledad Mar 14 #4
nolidad Mar 14 #5
Salaam Mar 14 #9
nolidad Mar 17 #13
rahtruelies Mar 14 #6
Salaam Mar 14 #10
KittyCatIdiots Mar 14 #12
quad489 Mar 14 #7

Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:21 PM

1. Cant be.

I was told repeatedly by several people that bill would never see the senate floor. Huh.

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Response to Ruby (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:24 PM

2. It's HR1 that will never see the Senate.

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Response to PrescientWon. (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:27 PM

3. You mustve missed the thread to which Im referring.

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Response to Ruby (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:29 PM

8. Mitch the Bitch wanted to hold the vote

don't see why this is fake news, but note how the vote margin fell - not enough to get an override, watch at least half of these dozen backtrack if and when they hold the override vote.

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Response to planetX (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:04 PM

11. At this point I think it could go either way.

Either more will jump on or more will run away. Most of them are windsocks these days. No spine.

It’s an easy vote when you know it faces a veto. Obamacare was repealed what, 60 times? Until it mattered

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:29 PM

4. Thank you Republican Senators who voted for this.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:43 PM

5. Trump vetoed!

Not enough votes in either house to override the veto!

Trump allowed to invoke 10USC284 and 10USC2808 without congressional approval and without needing congress to appropriate the funds to build the needed border wall, buy the necessary electronic and surveillance gear and hire the needed CPB agents!

Trump is dead center in teh middle of the Constitution and the law!

Schumer and his whiners are liars!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:35 PM

9. LOL

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Response to Salaam (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 17, 2019, 01:48 PM

13. Are you laughing at your own lack of knowledge???

10 USC 284:

10 U.S. Code § 284 - Support for counterdrug activities and activities to counter transnational organized crime
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(a)Support to Other Agencies.—The Secretary of Defense may provide support for the counterdrug activities or activities to counter transnational organized crime of any other department or agency of the Federal Government or of any State, local, tribal, or foreign law enforcement agency for any of the purposes set forth in subsection (b) or (c), as applicable, if—
(1) in the case of support described in subsection (b), such support is requested—
(A) by the official who has responsibility for the counterdrug activities or activities to counter transnational organized crime of the department or agency of the Federal Government, in the case of support for other departments or agencies of the Federal Government; or
(B) by the appropriate official of a State, local, or tribal government, in the case of support for State, local, or tribal law enforcement agencies; or
(2) in the case of support described in subsection (c), such support is requested by an appropriate official of a department or agency of the Federal Government, in coordination with the Secretary of State, that has counterdrug responsibilities or responsibilities for countering transnational organized crime.
(b)Types of Support for Agencies of United States.—The purposes for which the Secretary may provide support under subsection (a) for other departments or agencies of the Federal Government or a State, local, or tribal law enforcement agencies, are the following:
(1) The maintenance and repair of equipment that has been made available to any department or agency of the Federal Government or to any State, local, or tribal government by the Department of Defense for the purposes of—
(A) preserving the potential future utility of such equipment for the Department of Defense; and
(B) upgrading such equipment to ensure compatibility of that equipment with other equipment used by the Department.
(2) The maintenance, repair, or upgrading of equipment (including computer software), other than equipment referred to in paragraph (1) for the purpose of—
(A) ensuring that the equipment being maintained or repaired is compatible with equipment used by the Department of Defense; and
(B) upgrading such equipment to ensure the compatibility of that equipment with equipment used by the Department.
(3) The transportation of personnel of the United States and foreign countries (including per diem expenses associated with such transportation), and the transportation of supplies and equipment, for the purpose of facilitating counterdrug activities or activities to counter transnational organized crime within or outside the United States.
carry out such training.
(6) The detection, monitoring, and communication of the movement of—
(A) air and sea traffic within 25 miles of and outside the geographic boundaries of the United States; and
(B) surface traffic outside the geographic boundary of the United States and within the United States not to exceed 25 miles of the boundary if the initial detection occurred outside of the boundary.
(7) Construction of roads and fences and installation of lighting to block drug smuggling corridors across international boundaries of the United States.
(8) Establishment of command, control, communications, and computer networks for improved integration of law enforcement, active military, and National Guard activities.
(9) The provision of linguist and intelligence analysis services.
(10) Aerial and ground reconnaissance.


AND IF THAT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU:

10 USC 2808:

10 U.S. Code § 2808 - Construction authority in the event of a declaration of war or national emergency
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(a) In the event of a declaration of war or the declaration by the President of a national emergency in accordance with the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) that requires use of the armed forces, the Secretary of Defense, without regard to any other provision of law, may undertake military construction projects, and may authorize the Secretaries of the military departments to undertake military construction projects, not otherwise authorized by law that are necessary to support such use of the armed forces. Such projects may be undertaken only within the total amount of funds that have been appropriated for military construction, including funds appropriated for family housing, that have not been obligated.
(b) When a decision is made to undertake military construction projects authorized by this section, the Secretary of Defense shall notify, in an electronic medium pursuant to section 480 of this title, the appropriate committees of Congress of the decision and of the estimated cost of the construction projects, including the cost of any real estate action pertaining to those construction projects.
(c) The authority described in subsection (a) shall terminate with respect to any war or national emergency at the end of the war or national emergency.

The military has been used already, so the Exec branch BY LAW passed by congress can use the military to build the wall! And not even ask congress for a penny.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:50 PM

6. faux news alert

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Response to rahtruelies (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:35 PM

10. Yep, we all know.

LOL

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:22 PM

7. Thanks for the names of those who also support smuggling slaves/drugs/guns/etc with the democrats..

"In voting against the Trump Border National Emergency plan.
Lamar Alexander (TN), Roy Blunt (MO), Susan Collins (ME), Mike Lee (UT), Jerry Moran (KS), Lisa Murkowski (AK), Rand Paul (KY), Rob Portman (OH), Mitt Romney (UT), Marco Rubio (FL), Pat Toomey (PA), and Roger Wicker (MS)."

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