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Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:34 AM

Two presidents.......two different styles

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Trump picked up a bat and threatened Mexico he would bop them over the head with import taxes if they didn't do something about illegal immigrants entering this country.

He never had to swing it. Mexico capitulated.

Obama, on the other hand, used an entirely different style, which never worked. His style was to shower other countries with billions of taxpayer dollars to sway them. It was a waste of the citizen's money.

What Obama Fights For: Giving $9.55 Billion to North Korea to Spend on Nukes
https://shadowproof.com/2011/06/29/what-obama-fights-for-giving-9-55-billion-to-north-korea-to-spend-on-nukes/

U.S. Sent Cash to Iran as Americans Were Freed
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-sent-cash-to-iran-as-americans-were-freed-1470181874

Report: Obama administration shipped $400 million to Iran
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/report-obama-administration-shipped-dollar400-million-to-iran/ar-BBvaGVx?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=SNYDHP

Obama Lifts Sanctions, Iranians Win, Regime Loses
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jamal-abdi/obama-iran-sanctions_b_3358930.html

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Reply Two presidents.......two different styles (Original post)
oflguy Jun 12 OP
Butchie_T Jun 12 #1
Independent.mind Jun 12 #2
oflguy Jun 12 #4
Independent.mind Jun 12 #6
oflguy Jun 12 #7
Independent.mind Jun 12 #9
oflguy Jun 12 #12
Independent.mind Jun 12 #13
Independent.mind Jun 12 #21
Independent.mind Jun 12 #23
Independent.mind Jun 12 #10
Independent.mind Jun 12 #14
Independent.mind Jun 13 #24
His Daughter Jun 12 #8
Independent.mind Jun 12 #11
def_con5 Jun 12 #3
oflguy Jun 12 #5
Salaam Jun 12 #15
oflguy Jun 12 #16
Salaam Jun 12 #17
kevlar Jun 12 #18
Banshee 3 Actual Jun 12 #19
oflguy Jun 12 #20
Independent.mind Jun 12 #22
Independent.mind Jun 13 #25
Independent.mind Jun 13 #26

Response to oflguy (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:46 AM

1. This is the biggest difference from a political president and

a non-political president. Political correctness is not a virtue in a president. It is somewhat refreshing to see the President actually say and then do verses babble-on and do nothing.

I'm liking it quite a bit.

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:51 AM

2. I will believe he is actually serious when he starts doing more about this side of the problem

"Likewise, in the first years of the Obama administration, it became common for more than 15 employers hiring illegal aliens to be prosecuted, and in one year, more than 25 employers were prosecuted."

"Since Trump’s inauguration, however, fewer than 15 employers have been prosecuted for hiring illegal aliens each year."

"The continuously low prosecution rates of employers hiring illegal aliens stand in stark contrast to the fact that nearly eight million illegal aliens are illegally employed in the U.S. workforce — increasing foreign competition against American workers and driving down wages — as of 2016, according to Pew Research Center analysis."

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/02/feds-only-11-employers-prosecuted-for-hiring-illegal-aliens-in-last-year/

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Response to Independent.mind (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:12 AM

4. I didn't realize you was so pro-wall

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Response to oflguy (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:24 AM

6. You are pathetic

First this is terrible grammar:
"I didn't realize you was so pro-wall"

Second prosecuting employers that hire illegals has nothing to do with the wall.

You once again dodge and deflect.

Trump says he got concessions from Mexico, link up exactly what the details are in this new deal to avoid tariffs because I would really like to read them.

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Response to Independent.mind (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:29 AM

7. Was, past tense

I'm sure you are anti wall now

You think the recent arrests of human traffickers in Mexico is fake news?

I SAID Trump never needed to swing the bat. The threat of taxes was enough, but if you insist, I will do your work for you and do further research.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:33 AM

9. You claim Mexico "capitulated"

Link up the details.
That would be you backing up your claim not doing my work.

I linked to what I was talking about you did not.

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Response to Independent.mind (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:39 AM

12. Your link has nothing to do with the Trump-Mexico agreement

nice try

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Response to oflguy (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:50 AM

13. It supports the post

I will believe he is serious when his administration gets tough on employers of illegals.


Are you going to link to the details on the "Trump-Mexico agreement"?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 12:51 PM

21. Sounds like a great deal

"U.S.-Mexico Deal Will Not Impact Amnesty Pipeline for MS-13 Gang"

"Unaffected by the deal, though, is an amnesty pipeline for Unaccompanied Alien Children (UACs) and the illegal alien sponsors and family members they are often released to in the U.S. that was out in place by a GOP-Democrat-approved spending bill months ago."

“The UACs are still going to be allowed in and even worse, because of the spending bill that passed a few months ago,” Center for Immigration Studies Director of Policy Jessica Vaughan told SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Tonight.


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/11/u-s-mexico-deal-will-not-impact-amnesty-pipeline-for-ms-13-gang/

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Response to oflguy (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 03:57 PM

23. Where are the links to the "Trump-Mexico agreement" that avoided the threatened tariffs?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:54 AM

14. Past tense in this case is "were", not "was"


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Response to oflguy (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 10:18 AM

24. So what have you come up with?

"I will do your work for you and do further research."

What has your "further research" uncovered?

I found this:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/12/dhs-frees-illegal-aliens-in-eight-days-released-in-half-a-year/

And this:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/12/more-than-half-million-illegal-aliens-expected-freed-into-u-s-this-year/

And this:
"Let’s get something straight: the deal announced last week between the United States and Mexico to avert tariffs and curb the border crisis isn’t going to work. Unveiled as a diplomatic triumph, the deal says Mexico will send 6,000 National Guard troops to the Guatemalan border and allow Central American migrants to remain in Mexico pending their asylum claims in the United States."

"These are almost entirely face-saving measures for both the Trump administration and Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador. They have the virtue of making it seem like the United States, through tough diplomacy and the threat of punitive tariffs, has convinced Mexico to crack down on human smuggling and illegal immigration. But in practice they amount to smoke and mirrors."
https://thefederalist.com/2019/06/12/deal-not-mexico-cant-stop-border-crisis/


Your turn, how about some links supporting your position?

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Response to Independent.mind (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:32 AM

8. Alerted

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:37 AM

11. I will take my chances with it

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:06 AM

3. But, but there is no agreement with Mexico

It's just another Trump lie.

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:13 AM

5. Yes I know

and the two ring leaders Mexico just arrested for human trafficking must be a lie too.

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 12:08 PM

15. Uncle Sal sez the 2 styles are

Obama is smart and honest.

Donnie is dumb and crooked.

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Response to Salaam (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 12:12 PM

16. Thats brilliant Salami

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Response to oflguy (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 12:13 PM

17. Yep.

Poor dumb Donnie. Still mad about his Mommy hating him.

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Response to Salaam (Reply #17)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 12:38 PM

18. Poor dumb Donnie

beat the smartest woman in the world.

You make no sense.

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 12:41 PM

19. TBF, Obama wasnt the only POTUS to appease the North Koreans by a long shot

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #19)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 12:44 PM

20. Thats true

Clinton and Bush were equally foolish

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Response to oflguy (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 01:15 PM

22. And Reagan tried to make nice with Iran as well.

"“My purpose was … to send a signal that the United States was prepared to replace the animosity between with a new relationship. … At the same time we undertook this initiative, we made clear that Iran must oppose all forms of international terrorism as a condition of progress in our relationship. The most significant step which Iran could take, we indicated, would be to use its influence in Lebanon to secure the release of all hostages held there.”


https://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/reagan-explains-secret-sale-of-arms-to-iran-nov-13-1986-099742

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 11:32 AM

25. Did you abandon your thread????

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 12:25 PM

26. DHS: Illegal Aliens Released into U.S. Without Undergoing Disease Tests

"In written testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee this week, McAleenan admitted the thousands of border crossers and illegal aliens DHS is releasing every week are not undergoing disease tests."

McAleenan wrote:
"The public health risk — family units are released into our communities with unknown vaccination status and without a standard medical examination for communicable diseases of public health concern, as well as a public health risk of disease outbreak at processing facilities."


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/13/dhs-released-disease-screenings/

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