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Sun Jul 7, 2019, 09:11 AM

Is there any evidence Trump flew with Epstein on his plane?

I don't mean Mueller report evidence that proves Trump conspired with the Russians to steal the election.

Let me put it another way, does the same evidence exist that shows Clinton flew with Epstein on his plane?

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Reply Is there any evidence Trump flew with Epstein on his plane? (Original post)
def_con5 Jul 2019 OP
Da Mannn Jul 2019 #1
Gunslinger201 Jul 2019 #12
rampartb Jul 2019 #2
DP46 Jul 2019 #3
quad489 Jul 2019 #5
PrescientWon. Jul 2019 #6
Gunslinger201 Jul 2019 #13
Grumpy Pickle Jul 2019 #27
quad489 Jul 2019 #4
rahtruelies Jul 2019 #7
rh24 Jul 2019 #8
quad489 Jul 2019 #9
def_con5 Jul 2019 #10
Trevor Jul 2019 #11
batcat Jul 2019 #14
Trevor Jul 2019 #17
batcat Jul 2019 #18
Trevor Jul 2019 #19
batcat Jul 2019 #20
Trevor Jul 2019 #22
batcat Jul 2019 #25
Nostrings Jul 2019 #50
Trevor Jul 2019 #52
Nostrings Jul 2019 #53
Trevor Jul 2019 #54
Nostrings Jul 2019 #55
rampartb Jul 2019 #15
Da Mannn Jul 2019 #16
Dumper Jul 2019 #24
kevlar Jul 2019 #33
Trevor Jul 2019 #37
kevlar Jul 2019 #38
DavesNotHere Jul 2019 #39
Trevor Jul 2019 #44
DavesNotHere Jul 2019 #45
Trevor Jul 2019 #47
DavesNotHere Jul 2019 #48
Trevor Jul 2019 #49
Nostrings Jul 2019 #51
LavenderGirl Jul 2019 #21
batcat Jul 2019 #26
LavenderGirl Jul 2019 #30
batcat Jul 2019 #36
TendiesForBreakfast Jul 2019 #23
outside Jul 2019 #32
LavenderGirl Jul 2019 #28
Carlos W Bush Jul 2019 #31
LavenderGirl Jul 2019 #29
kevlar Jul 2019 #34
jh4freedom Jul 2019 #35
ThreeSparkles Jul 2019 #40
ThreeSparkles Jul 2019 #41
ThreeSparkles Jul 2019 #46
myohmy Jul 2019 #42
D26-15 Jul 2019 #43

Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 09:26 AM

1. This is Lefty. There NEVER is evidence.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 10:29 AM

12. Trump has to prove he wasnt there

It’s the new Mueller standard of Justice

(From Mueller who takes the word of a DNC Contractor Russia hacked their Server)

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 09:27 AM

2. lol trump has his own plane

Epstein's flight manifest would not be as telling as trump's flight plans. but those are probably fake like everything else involved with the fraud in chief.

here is trump's helicopter pilot, Teflon, kinds like Epstein and trump,

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/the-donald-and-the-dealer-173892

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Response to rampartb (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 09:39 AM

3. Sooo, the lack so any real proof is Lefty's verison of solid evidence?

Or is this just another attempt at "whataboutism" to cover for Slick Willie's penchant for 11 year old girls and boys?

Keep trying, one of these days you might come up with something that isn't pure fertilizer.

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Response to DP46 (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 09:41 AM

5. Using lefty logic, Obama banged goats in the Rose Garden...

...time for lefties to prove my claim wrong.

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Response to quad489 (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 09:50 AM

6. well... that's closer to fact.

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Response to DP46 (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 10:32 AM

13. I am sure Epstein will throw Bubba under the bus

For a Plea Deal like he got in Florida

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #13)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 03:53 PM

27. Gaaaawd I'd love to see that !

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Response to rampartb (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 09:39 AM

4. So your answer is NO.....got it.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 09:54 AM

7. npc alert

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 09:56 AM

8. I have searched for a long time now and can't find one source.

It is well sourced Bent Willie flew on the Lolita Express 26 times and ditched his Secret Service detail to go on these pedo excursions

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Response to rh24 (Reply #8)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 10:00 AM

9. If Trump had done that shit does anyone really believe lefties wouldn't have used it back in 2016???

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Response to rh24 (Reply #8)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 10:01 AM

10. That's why I asked

Tons of assertions, no evidence I could find. As an example, the Miami Herald states Trump flew on Epstein's plane, but there is no evidence he molested little girls. But nothing behind it.

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 10:06 AM

11. Many girls have come forward

Nothing has come out about Trump or Clinton. If either one had done anything we would probably know by now.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 11:16 AM

14. Some will point out that revealing negative information about the Clintons can be ...

hazardous to your health. If you reveal negative things about Trump he usually just sues you.

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Response to batcat (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 12:02 PM

17. Kooks point that out.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #17)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 12:27 PM

18. Sometimes the kooks are right. (n/t)

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Response to batcat (Reply #18)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:18 PM

19. Seldom.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #19)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:29 PM

20. If you considered those who didnt believe Trump colluded with the Russians to be ...

“kooks” prior to the Mueller Report then you will admit this was one example where the “kooks” were right.

On the other hand you might be one of those who thought the talking heads on the liberal media outlets were the real kooks. In that case the kooks were definitely wrong.

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Response to batcat (Reply #20)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:35 PM

22. I didn't consider them to be kooks.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #22)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 03:35 PM

25. Good. There is hope yet. (n/t)

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Response to Trevor (Reply #22)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 06:36 AM

50. Hannity, levin, limbaugh, victor davis hanson, breitbart, townhall, american thinker...

Every major right leaning talking head, trevor, did not believe that Trump colluded with russia.

And you considered most of those 'kooks' before the Mueller report.

You're trying to have it both ways, and avoid admitting that those who you label 'kooks' were right.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #50)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 07:27 PM

52. Just because somebody is a kook doesn't mean they can't be right some of the time.

Or even most of the time. Your named individuals weren't champions of logical analysis, since there was no proof either way before the Mueller report. I didn't call any of them kooks for not believing in the collusion story, because I wasn't convinced myself. I'm not trying to have anything any way. You are. You want to turn everything into an attack on me.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #52)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 07:35 PM

53. Red herring.

Batcat said: If you considered those who didnt believe Trump colluded with the Russians to be ...“kooks” prior to the Mueller Report then you will admit this was one example where the “kooks” were right.

Your reply: "I didn't consider them to be kooks."

The "them" you were referring to in that sentence, is "those who didnt believe Trump colluded with the Russians", that batcat was referring to in the previous sentence.

Obviously you DID consider a number of them to be kooks, so you were simply lying.

It isn't my fault you can't keep your lies strait.



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Response to Nostrings (Reply #53)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 07:44 PM

54. I haven't lied.

You are just trying to twist things again. I'm not playing. We started out with the idea that the Clintons murder anybody who poses a legal threat. The people who believe or push that are kooks.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #54)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 08:24 PM

55. Of course you have. You lied yourself right into a corner.

That's why the 'I'm not playing' and the trying to change the subject.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 11:26 AM

15. trump has been charged

in fact one girl just got witness tampered and dropped the charges on trump.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #15)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 11:32 AM

16. "dropped the charges." Yep. another devastating nothingburger

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Response to Trevor (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:45 PM

24. Perhaps with Trump, given the MSM's bent.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #11)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:33 PM

33. Mr Clinton has not yet been

exonerated.

He is certainly a world class liar.

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Response to kevlar (Reply #33)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 07:38 PM

37. The burden of proof isn't on Bill.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #37)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 07:53 PM

38. Under leftys new rules it is.

Sorry.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #37)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 07:55 PM

39. True, but he did make sure to get out in front of this story with a good old fashioned lie.

Released in a statement, supposedly from him but worded in the 3rd person for deniability later.

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Response to DavesNotHere (Reply #39)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:23 PM

44. Are you sure its a lie?

The folks here say Clinton's supposed four flights were contradicted by flight logs. I just tried looking at them and there appears to be more than four, but I can't tell if some are there twice. Bill also speaks of multiple stops on trips. Would multiple stops result in more flight log entries?

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Response to Trevor (Reply #44)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 09:02 PM

45. Ill admit I have not looked into it too much, but no one has

Ever gone broke betting that something he said is misleading or outright false. I guess that depends on what the definition of “is” is.

I expect that when more information comes out, surrogates will be sent out to explain that this statement doesn’t mean what we think it means.

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Response to DavesNotHere (Reply #45)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 07:40 PM

47. The right smells blood on this one

We'll see how far they can take it.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #47)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:08 PM

48. I predict that both sides try to use this for political advantage,

And in the end no politicians get in any actual legal trouble.

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Response to DavesNotHere (Reply #48)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 06:09 AM

49. I agree.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #37)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 06:39 AM

51. Look who suddenly understands how burden of proof works.

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:33 PM

21. I don't know but

I haven't seen a post from Clinton praising Epstein and talking about liking beautiful women on the younger side.

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” - Donald Trump, 2002

Also why this reaction to a picture of Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump?


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Response to LavenderGirl (Reply #21)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 03:47 PM

26. Trump says a lot of nice things about some people who often are far from nice. ...

When it does it usually involves some form of a deal. Perhaps was trying to land a business deal with Epstein.

Don’t get your hopes up too high that Epstein will take Trump down. It is more likely that Epstein will take Bill Clinton down. Of course I could be wrong and if Trump is proven to have been romping around in Lolita Island with underage girls, his chances of getting re-elected drop dramatically.

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Response to batcat (Reply #26)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:27 PM

30. Look at Trump's statements to and about underage girls

Also his reported effort to see these girls naked at pageants; the rape allegation previously leveled against him; and his known associations—Nader, Epstein etc.

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Response to LavenderGirl (Reply #30)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:41 PM

36. There have been numerous allegations about Trump but to me most seem to be similar ...

to those leveled at Justice Kavanaugh. Recently I have lost all faith in our news media so I would need a good amount of factual evidence to believe these charges. I view the liberal mainstream media as the propaganda wing of the Democratic Party and the Clinton Machine. To be fair I don’t have a lot of confidence in the conservative media either.

Ethical journalism is an endangered species in our nation today. Rumors and innuendo breathlessly delivered by talking puppet heads 24/7 have replaced factual and honest coverage of the news to the detriment of this nation and to our form of a representative democracy or constitutional republic. There is a lot of money to be made from fake news and propaganda can influence the body of citizens and largely determine who wields power.

You get to pick your propaganda and I get to pick mine and neither of us knows what the truth is.

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 02:42 PM

23. Apparently just once back to New York from Florida.

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Response to TendiesForBreakfast (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:33 PM

32. This is what

I read to.

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 06:09 PM

28. Wonder if/how Trump Model Management fits into the world of Jeffrey Epstein

Founded in 1999, it specialized in young European "models" and requested US visas for almost 250 international “models.”

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Response to LavenderGirl (Reply #28)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:28 PM

31. Weight: 57 lbs.

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:22 PM

29. I don't know, but

I believe that a man who owns a modelling agency is not interested in the well being of women, he’s interested in exploitation.




Two years ago it was widely known and it had been widely reported that Trump not only had owned a modeling agency but that that agency had had dodgy practices.

Former Models for Donald Trump’s Agency Say They Violated Immigration Rules and Worked Illegally
“It’s like modern-day slavery.”
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

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Response to LavenderGirl (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:42 PM

34. I believe you would believe anything that served your

partisan bias.

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:09 PM

35. Now now Donald

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 07:59 PM

40. If the CIA-MOUSSAD-CLINTON-EPSTEIN MACHINE HAD ANYTHING

He would never have set foot in the White House. It doesn't matter if he flew on a plane, it matters if Epstein has Trump on film.

Trump banned Epstein from Mara Lago after he got caught trying to pick up a minor there.

The political establishment never let Trump in. Ever.

The victims lawyer Edwards has made a statement that Trump helped him in 2009 and gave him all the names connected so he could put this case together.

Now you reasearch the rest yourself. Its all out there!

That's the nutshell version. This was all exposed years ago and Epstein got a sweetheart deal.

Trump won.

It's checkmate

Rejoice

This one's for the kids

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Response to ThreeSparkles (Reply #40)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:01 PM

41. PS. Mainstream media refuses to report Trump helped the lawyer in 2009

Trump won. Then he made an executive order to seize all monies and assets from Ghost convicted of Human Rights abuses human trafficking Etc.

If Epstein's Manhattan assets aren't enough, I'm thinking about an Island.

Then Zorro Ranch.

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Response to ThreeSparkles (Reply #41)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 09:46 PM

46. We would have had two years of pedo gate instead of Russia gate

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:01 PM

42. I heard...

...they found trump's lip prints on his throttle and finger prints around his cockpit...

,,,shameful...

...

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Response to myohmy (Reply #42)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:10 PM

43. "I heard".

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