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Tue Sep 3, 2019, 09:54 PM

And the dirt is leaking out. FISA COURT DENIED FIRST CARTER PAGE APPLICATION.

And for the second and subsequent FISA COURT applications they used... Drum roll please.

The Steele Dossier.

That's right! The bought and paid for Hillary Clinton agitprop was used by the nation's greatest law enforcement agency to obtain the nation's most secretive and unique warrant.

If there aren't multiple indictments from Comey to Strzok to that dumb bitch from the Obama administration (forgot her name, the one who Trump fired) then we truly have a two tiered justice system.

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Reply And the dirt is leaking out. FISA COURT DENIED FIRST CARTER PAGE APPLICATION. (Original post)
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Response to PrescientWon. (Original post)

Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:01 PM

1. You mean sally yates, I think.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:07 PM

3. Yes, I'd forgotten the bitches name. Thanks!

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Response to PrescientWon. (Original post)

Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:02 PM

2. Nothing new here.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:08 PM

4. The storm is coming...

The justice storm from hell.

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Response to PrescientWon. (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:10 PM

5. When?

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Response to Trevor (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:59 PM

7. When it hurts you and yours and damages the crooked party you support the worst it possibly can.

No reason to rush things and have it be yesterdays news come election time.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 07:21 PM

11. In other words

You have no idea when its coming because it isn't coming at all.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #11)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 07:26 PM

12. You keep telling yourself that. It will make your shock and surprise that much more delicious.

Did you see the dems circling the mccabe wagon today trevy?

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #12)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:03 PM

13. No. I didn't see Dems circling wagons.

I read on Google News that McCabe will be a speaker at Dem fundraisers. Doesn't sound like Dems are too scared.

I've read they are deciding now whether or not to charge McCabe. But there is nothing out there about McCabe conspiring with Hillary to pull off a coup or spy on Trump, like crazies think happened.

If they decide to charge McCabe it might not be easy for them. McCabe was fired for not being forthcoming, but I don't know of a criminal charge called not being forthcoming. If there was proof of a flat out lie why didn't they bring that up when McCabe was fired?

So they might not even charge him and if they do they might not get a conviction.

If McCabe gets convicted for lying to investigators I won't be shocked. If he gets convicted of plotting to spy on the Trump campaign or carry out a coup I'll be shocked.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #13)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:07 PM

14. Then you weren't paying attention.

The only reason to have mccabe, who claimed he wasn't politically motivated, at the dem rally, is so that they can say "see, Trump is going after political opposition!" when he is indicted.

Are you under the impression that they wont?

Or will you agree with them when they do?





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Response to Nostrings (Reply #14)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 08:32 PM

15. They don't need to bring McCabe to a fundraiser to do that.

Its very obvious Trump is out for revenge against his accusers. So is the whole RW. I'm certain Trump wants revenge against his accusers. He's like that all the time. If somebody criticizes Trump Trump jumps on twitter and slanders the offender. That's pretty much what Trump occupies his time with. He's a petty vengeful man.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #15)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 02:55 AM

20. Yes, in fact they do.

Without attaching him to themselves, if they make that claim, theyre arguing and admitting that mccabe was political opposition while he still worked at the fbi.

"Its very obvious Trump is out for revenge against his accusers. So is the whole RW"

Only the false accusers and bad actors, but confirmation from you of your position is always nice.

"I'm certain Trump wants revenge against his accusers."

And I am certain that his accusers weren't acting lawfully or in good faith, and have a large amount of accountability coming. If I'm right about that, He DESERVES that reveng against his accusers.


"He's like that all the time. If somebody criticizes Trump Trump jumps on twitter and slanders the offender"

He is a fighter in other words. THAT is what his supporters elected him to do: fight. I get you'd rather he were a mccain or romney style wimp who wilts whenever a dem feigns the slightest objection, but you may as well disabuse yourself of notions of that nature.right now. You wont see another republican pushover in the oval office again any time soon.

"That's pretty much what Trump occupies his time with. He's a petty vengeful man."

When someone tries to take a shot at you, if you're a fighter you take a shot back at them twice as hard and make them regret ever even thinking about it in the first place.That is what President Trump does.

You don't like it? Too bad. You call it petty and veangeful because you're so spoiled from the squishy pushover republicans that came before him, that you and yours simply can not deal with it.

Again, I'd get used to it if I were you. Being a genuine fighter who takes it to the opposition is going to become a primary requirement for any republican who wants to be President before you see Trump leave office.

We're done electing Presidents who can be bullied or pushed around by the left and the dems they vote for.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #20)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 04:29 PM

33. Presidents get criticized

only Trump takes it all personally. He takes it personally if somebody just disagrees with him.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #33)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:07 PM

39. Which of obamas people were run out of restaurants when he was in office trevy?

You on the left MADE it personal.

You own it.

None of which covers WHY the dem party attached itself to mccabe. Both can criticise the President independently.

For them to choose to do so together, there must have been an incentive.

They didn't just trip and fall in bed together.






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Response to Nostrings (Reply #39)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:09 PM

40. I can see why you want to change the subject.

I don't own your collection of old dud ammo.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #40)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:14 PM

42. Are you admitting that chasing Trumps people out of restaurants rises beyond mere criticism?

That was the subject of your last post: "Presidents get criticized"

Or are you full of shit when you accuse me of trying to change the subject?

You really should think this through, and choose your next words carefully.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #42)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:31 PM

44. Are you threatening me?

Chasing out of restaurants was an act of individuals. Did you take that personally? We were talking about Trump. I said going after McCabe was part of his MO. He's petty vengeful man. From that you got to Trump supporters getting kicked out of restaurants. You knew you were losing on the subject. So you changed it. Cheap! My words have all been chosen wisely.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #44)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:43 PM

46. Giving you a sporting chance, actually.

"Chasing out of restaurants was an act of individuals."

So was the birther thing, that you use as an example of how it was wrong to go after obama.

"Did you take that personally? "

Did you take the birther thing personally?

I bet being hassled felt personal to the people at the restaurant.


"We were talking about Trump."

Incorrect.

You said "Presidents get criticized only Trump takes it all personally."

You just opened yourself up to anyone else that takes it personally, using that claim trevy. Thats how debate works. Attacks on people who work for him are intended to intimidate people into not working for him, and make their life difficult and/or stressful if they do. They go beyond mere criticism, and you know that they do.

Again, its people on your side of the aisle here trevy MAKING it personal.


" I said going after McCabe was part of his MO. He's petty vengeful man. From that you got to Trump supporters getting kicked out of restaurants."

Again, incorrect. YOU broached the subject of taking things personal. Post 33, anyone that cares can go look.

Then you'll really look foolish.


"You knew you were losing on the subject."

It isn't changing the subject when you brought it up.


"So you changed it. Cheap!"

So you're lying. Cheap!


"My words have all been chosen wisely."

I'm sure you gave it your all trevy.


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Response to Nostrings (Reply #46)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:52 PM

47. You lost again.

BTW - Trump was the king of the birthers. Also, the birther thing was aimed right at Obama. The restaurant incident was aimed at some people down the ladder and it was an isolated incident. Birtherism was national. The two don't compare.

If you wanted to prevail on the subject as you describe it you would have to come up with some things other presidents took personally that weren't. You didn't go that way though. It didn't bring up Trump supporters getting kicked out of a restaurant.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #47)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:01 PM

49. You're the one in the corner trevy. I think we're going to get you a name plaque.

BTW - Trump was the king of the birthers. Also, the birther thing was aimed right at Obama."

Says trevy.


"The restaurant incident was aimed at some people down the ladder and it was an isolated incident."

An isolated incident that was called for by the likes of maxine waters



"Birtherism was national. The two don't compare."

Maxine waters says what?


"If you wanted to prevail on the subject as you describe it you would have to come up with some things other presidents took personally that weren't."


Aww, trevy can't handle it when he broaches the subject of taking things peronal, which leads to discussion of people GETTING personal - the other side of that coin.

Too bad so sad. Think better next time.

" You didn't go that way though. It didn't bring up Trump supporters getting kicked out of a restaurant."

The dots are there to connect. Just because you can't or wont connect them,. doesn't mean you place those same limitations on us trevy.

Fail. Again.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #49)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:49 PM

52. I'm not in a corner

You are in a headlock. Your veins are popping out.

Look up Trump and birtherism if you don't believe me. Its not just "says Trevie." It was a consensus view of everybody watching. The birthers loved Trump too. They still do.

Maxine Waters is an extremist who has nothing to do with Trump's petty vengefulness. Another cowardly attempt to sneak out of the headlock. She doesn't head a national movement at all, like Trump did.

So by your logic if I come up with anybody anywhere getting personal I win? Your dots don't connect. They aren't even dots.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #52)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:25 PM

54. And yet, there you sit, in your corner.

"You are in a headlock. Your veins are popping out."

Thats my ankle, little fella. I was wondering what you thought you were doing down there.

"Look up Trump and birtherism if you don't believe me. Its not just "says Trevie." It was a consensus view of everybody watching."

Truth isn't derived from consensus (though it IS telling to hear you argue the opposite) .

Another logical falacy from trevy, and another fresh coat of paint all around you, except your little corner.


"The birthers loved Trump too. They still do."

Oh well.



"Maxine Waters is an extremist who has nothing to do with Trump's petty vengefulness."

Maxine waters is a ranking democrat member of the democratic party trevy, and she called for what amounts to harrassment of anyone that works for President Trump. Play the video and listen for yourself. Use a q-tip first if you think you'll have problems hearing it.

She wasn't doing that as a response to democrats being attacked. She was doing that UNPROVOKED.

Doing something like that unprovoked is MUCH more petty and vindictive than reacting to attacks like President Trump does. So are all the attacks on MAGA hat wearers.

But all you do is complain about Trump.

"Another cowardly attempt to sneak out of the headlock."

Well, you do make it slightly more difficult than normal to pick up that leg, fortunately you're a lightweight and don't slow me down at all. Besides, whether you think you have me in a headlock or not, you're down by my ankle. I can just step on you if you get to be too much trouble.





"She doesn't head a national movement at all, like Trump did."


National movement? Please, show us the organizational chart of the birther movement trevor.




As usual, you haven't thought ANY of this through.




"So by your logic if I come up with anybody anywhere getting personal I win?"

No trevy. You don't understand logic. And, You never win. You attempt play with people who you have no hope against.

You could win on DU. Maybe.



"Your dots don't connect."

You admit only that you can't see the connection. Even if you can't, others can.

Your deficits are yours and yours alone.


"They aren't even dots."


And right on cue you provide the proof.



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Response to Nostrings (Reply #54)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:58 PM

56. You are in a headlock.

You tell yourself its your ankle but its your head, Wake up!

Here's an example of you making unrelated posts. You posted "says Trevie." That's you claiming I'm the source of the information. I said there was a consensus for the information. That establishes I'm not the source. Then you wandered off into a philosophical argument about whether consensus means something is true. I never said that. I only was pointing out the source. Think!

Maxine Waters is a deputy whip for the Democratic Caucus. She isn't the leader of the party.

Not all movements have organizational charts. Don't you believe birtherism was a movement?

The deficits are all yours. You pretend I have them so you can insult, but you are too flawed to be a judge of anybody.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #56)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:36 AM

65. I can tell fron the tugging on my ankle.

"You tell yourself its your ankle but its your head, Wake up! "

Its hard to hear what you're saying all the way down there little fella.

"Here's an example of you making unrelated posts. You posted "says Trevie." That's you claiming I'm the source of the information."

You need fundamental reading comprehension kiddo. Thats "says you", but using your nickname. That doesn't mean you're the source of the information. It means you're the source of the claim ABOUT the information.

Again,. this is something you'd know if you'd spent 20 years debating on the internet trevy.

Oops.




"I said there was a consensus for the information."

Yeah, I laughed in your face at the silly notion that concensus, which is agreement, equated to proof, which doesn't depend on agreement.

Silly.




"I only was pointing out the source. Think! "

No, you're being silly, playing games.




"Maxine Waters is a deputy whip for the Democratic Caucus. She isn't the leader of the party."

I didn't claim that she was THE leader. On the other hand, she certainly represents the party in her words and actions, so whats your point?



"Not all movements have organizational charts."

How convenient.



"Don't you believe birtherism was a movement?"

i haven't seen any evidence that it was a movement, beyond your hyperbolic unsubstantiated claims.


"The deficits are all yours."


I'm not the one with the reading comprehension problems, you are trevy.






"You pretend I have them so you can insult, but you are too flawed to be a judge of anybody."


When you don't understand what you're reading, and you admit it to the board by saying something stupid, its not me pretending trevy, its you saying something stupid, painting yourself into a corner.

Again.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #65)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 11:09 AM

66. You don't understand anything I tell you.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #66)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:20 PM

69. Half of what you say makes no sense. The other half is comic relief.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #69)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:59 PM

72. It looks that way to you

because you are incapable of understanding it.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #72)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:41 PM

74. To the contrary, I understand it for precisely what it is.

You just don't like being stuck in the corner.


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Response to Nostrings (Reply #74)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:49 PM

76. Your perception is very distorted.

You see what you want to see, like your fantasy that I'm in a corner.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #76)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:52 PM

78. I'd expect that line of reasoning, from someone in the corner.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #78)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:58 PM

82. Another spell of denial from you.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #82)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 06:59 PM

85. You're projecting.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #15)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 03:24 AM

21. Funny how you demean vengefulness

when that's all dems have been since Nov. 9, 2016.

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #21)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 04:30 PM

34. Dems oppose like every other out party has always done.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #34)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 04:34 PM

36. No, never like this. The left has gone completely mad.

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #36)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 04:38 PM

37. The right was obsessed with throwing both Clintons in prison.

They went through far far worse than Trump.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #37)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 05:01 PM

38. Uh, both Clintons are known criminals, Trump isnt

There’s a bit of a difference there. Also Trump’s results and success proves he was the right choice.

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #38)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:13 PM

41. Trump has more negative qualities than both Clinton's put together.

Trump had some economic improvement for awhile but it looks like that is slowing down. I don't know what else he claims. The economy got much better under Bill Clinton too.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #41)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:22 PM

43. "Trump has more negative qualities than both Clinton's put together." Such as?

Lets compare them and see if you're right.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #43)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:34 PM

45. For one

Trump lies way way more.

For another Trump stiffs people he owes money to.

For another Trump steers public money to his businesses.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #45)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:53 PM

48. You try so hard, its comical to watch you fail.

You measure lies in quantity of things Trump says that you can spin into lies. The rest of the world could give a fuck less, and cares about lies of substance. Lies of substance like slick and hilly tell.

Remember the hilly leaked speech in which she admitted to having a public position and a private position?

That ALONE makes her a worse liar than Trump, With him you know what you see if what you get.

And,it doesn't account for her husband who lied under oath where Trump has not.


So big fail on count one trevy.



"For another Trump stiffs people he owes money to. "

And you think the clintons haven't?





"For another Trump steers public money to his businesses."

That isn't a negative unless you are equally aghast at Da Nang Dick blumenthal and his businesses as well.

Please direct me to your OP complaining about him, or your comments about him over the years.

Nevermind, we both know there are none.


The monetary value is rather low, so I don't see it as a negative (nor do others with any sense), as you do.



Next time use criteria that Trump is *genuinly* worse at trevy.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #48)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:33 PM

51. You have to go back years to fish out a few Clinton lies.

I didn't say Clintons never lied. I said Trump lies way more. Trump lies way more than pretty much anybody. And he tells all kinds of lies. Lies of substance and every other kind. There are many sites on the net like this one. Some have Trump at more that 10,000 lies since he took office.

http://trumplies.us/

Nostrings writes: "the rest of the world could give a fuck less..."

Let's see what the rest of the world thinks. In September's poll, the share of Americans saying they approve of the job President Trump is doing fell 1% to 39%. In August, it plunged 7% to 40%. However, 55% say they disapprove, down 1% from August. But that gauge stood at 49% in July, 52% in June and 50% in May. The disapproval rating in March was 53%.

You don't care but fortunately the majority doesn't share your valueless perception.

Trump lied under oath numerous times during civil depositions. They couldn't even let him go live with Mueller because they were sure he would perjure himself.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/what-trumps-long-record-of-depositions-means-for-the-mueller-probe

I don't know of anybody the Clintons owed money to that never got paid. You seem to think they stiffed people like Trump. Who? You lost again.

I haven't posted your talking points before because the subjects didn't come up. Another cowardly subject change.

I know defending a scumbag like Trump is almost impossible so I don't blame you much for failing. One has to ask though why on Earth you would try? You should really take a look at yourself.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #51)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:02 PM

53. Says the guy who counts ALL of Trumps.

"I didn't say Clintons never lied. I said Trump lies way more."

Yes, but you measure more by quanty. I measure more by quality.


"Trump lies way more than pretty much anybody. And he tells all kinds of lies. Lies of substance and every other kind. There are many sites on the net like this one. Some have Trump at more that 10,000 lies since he took office."

And theres exhibit A. Prove me right some more trevy.



"You don't care but fortunately the majority doesn't share your valueless perception."

You know nothing about the majority outside of what your npc programmers tell you to know.

"Trump lied under oath numerous times during civil depositions. They couldn't even let him go live with Mueller because they were sure he would perjure himself. "

Allegedly. Clinton LIED UNDER OATH AND IT IS ON THE RECORD.


"I don't know of anybody the Clintons owed money to that never got paid. You seem to think they stiffed people like Trump. Who? You lost again."

People in haiti for starters. Its YOU who loses again

Yep. A plaque that says "Trevys Corner" sounds very fitting.

"I haven't posted your talking points before because the subjects didn't come up. Another cowardly subject change."

WTF does that dogs breakfast even mean?


"I know defending a scumbag like Trump is almost impossible so I don't blame you much for failing. One has to ask though why on Earth you would try? You should really take a look at yourself."


Oh, look whos talking, a defender of the scumbag clintons. One never saw something she didn't want to grift, and the other never saw something with 2 legs and (hopefully) a heartbeat that he wouldn't hit.


Like I said, watching you struggle through this is wildly amusing.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #53)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:35 PM

55. Trump lies more by quality too.

You are fixated on Hillary taking a private position which differed from her public position? Here's a statement from Donald Trump. "“All Republicans support people with pre-existing conditions, and if they don't, they will after I speak to them," Trump tweeted in October. "I am in total support." Total lie and a big one! You prove yourself wrong. I don't prove you right.

I know about what the majority thinks because I look at scientifically created polls. You just believe what you want to believe, which is that everybody else agrees with you.

Its more than allegedly with Trump lying during depositions. There are transcripts.

The Clintons don't owe money to anybody in Haiti. There was a development project that didn't turn out as well as hoped but the Clintons didn't promise to pay anybody and not pay. You make stuff up so you can pretend you win but you lose every time.

The only plaque you have is on your teeth.

I defend the Clintons because they are the most lied about people in history. Your laughter only makes you look silly.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #55)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:20 AM

64. Incorrect, as usual.

"You are fixated on Hillary taking a private position which differed from her public position?"

The comment wasn't just that she does, its also that she SAYS she does. Her statement didn't speak to a specific topic trevy, it was more of a global. A mode.


"“All Republicans support people with pre-existing conditions, and if they don't, they will after I speak to them," Trump tweeted in October. "I am in total support."

*yawn*


You can't counter hillarys admission of hillarys mode with an anecdote.

Things like this are why we mock you.


"You prove yourself wrong. I don't prove you right."

Your record of proving me right is quite good, particularly when compared to proving yourself right.


"I know about what the majority thinks because I look at scientifically created polls."

Bwahahahahaha. Hillary in a landslide!





"You just believe what you want to believe, which is that everybody else agrees with you."

Typical leftist bubble projection.


"Its more than allegedly with Trump lying during depositions. There are transcripts."


Youi better share them with someone trevy. Get tom arnold on the case!!




"The Clintons don't owe money to anybody in Haiti. There was a development project that didn't turn out as well as hoped but the Clintons didn't promise to pay anybody and not pay. You make stuff up so you can pretend you win but you lose every time."

The things you admit to believing entertain me.





"The only plaque you have is on your teeth."

Aww, thats so cute, trevys trying to be witty.





"I defend the Clintons because they are the most lied about people in history. Your laughter only makes you look silly."

Most lied about people in history my ass.

But its very clear now how much you worship them trevy.

Oops.



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Response to Nostrings (Reply #64)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 12:04 PM

67. If Hillary admitted to doing something wrong

that was honest. Trump just lies all the way through.

Trump lies bore you? That's an admission that you block out information that doesn't fit with your twisted views. You call Trump's lie an anecdote? There is a ton more where that came from. Just read the links I gave you. The reason you mock me is because you need to as a defense mechanism. Your amusement at me is also a defense mechanism

The fact that you believe what you want to believe is established by your own posting history

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/08/the-best-lies-from-donald-trumps-2007-deposition.html

Just a small sample of all the lies about the Clintons:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/hillary-clinton-conspiracy-theories/

I don't worship the Clintons. I care about the truth.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #67)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:28 PM

70. Sorry trevy. You seem not quite to understand.

Hillarys positions are ALL suspect, because of her admitted triangulation or calculation of position.

Trumps positions are worn on his sleeve for the most part.

One is trustworthy in that regard, and the other is hillary clinton.


Nothing you can say, no list of bullshit, no matter how indignant you feign to be about it, makes hillary 1/10th as trustworthy as He is.


"I care about the truth."

If that were true, you'd admit you just lost the argument.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #70)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:58 PM

71. Trump backs off stuff all the time.

He even goes back and forth. Trump isn't trustworthy at all about anything.

If Hillary is 1/10th as trustworthy as Trump, and Trump has told at least 10,000 lies, you should be able to come up with a list of 100,000 Hilllary lies.

I didn't lose the argument. This is another example of you believing what you want to believe.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #71)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:40 PM

73. Political gamesmanship and trolling by and large.

Thats not the same as admitting to needing a public position because of your private position.

"I didn't lose the argument."

Of course you have. It just takes you longer than everyone else, to figure it out.



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Response to Nostrings (Reply #73)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:55 PM

80. When Hillary said that she was talking about for purposes of negotiation.

Any way you cut if Trump is light years worse. Of course you are losing here. Its nearly impossible to defend that monster you admire so much. Even then though, you are really bad at it.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #80)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 06:58 PM

84. Wrong again!



"Any way you cut if Trump is light years worse."

No trevy. Any way YOU cut it, Trump is worse. The way I (and most folks who aren't apologists for the left) cut it, bill alone has a worse record.


"Its nearly impossible to defend that monster you admire so much."

Monster? You make it sound like he lied about people keeping their plans and doctors if they liked them. Or lied under oath.


"Even then though, you are really bad at it."

As I said, you amuse me trevy. Make sure you reply again when the next lefty talking points come out, wont you?



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Response to Trevor (Reply #51)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 01:40 AM

61. Most of the so-called lies on your "proof" are mistakes, not lies.

Do you even know the difference? If I say it's going to rain tomorrow because that's what's in the forecast, and it doesn't rain, did I lie or was I mistaken? Or how about this one? Many lefties claim that things that Trump promised but hasn't delivered on yet are lies, even though he's still in office. Stupid lefties think that a campaign promise has to be delivered on day one of his term or it instantly becomes a lie. Sorry, but that kind of propaganda bullshit is for those who lost the ability to think.

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #61)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 06:17 PM

83. I skimmed the statements at my link

Some of those might be mistakes but others I don't believe could be anything other than intentional. And Trump makes so many mistakes because he's reckless with the truth. There is a concept in law that when there is enough recklessness with the truth then statements are equivalent to lies.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #83)

Mon Sep 9, 2019, 04:13 AM

86. Keep your doctor, keep your plan, $2500 savings for each household.

Now those are lies that were used to sway an election. Lies with consequences. Trump exaggerates, gets details mixed up, etc., but nothing like BO did. Idiots who voted for BO in 2012 believed the lies. I and millions of other Republicans didn't buy any of it.

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #86)

Mon Sep 9, 2019, 06:47 PM

87. 98% were able to keep their plans and doctors

The other 2% mostly had bare bones plans that hardly covered anything.

Trump said he was going to cover everybody with a plan that was much better. What happened to that? Obama's statement was much closer to the truth than Trump's.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #87)

Mon Sep 9, 2019, 08:30 PM

88. Uhm no.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #45)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 01:32 AM

60. Really? Got any links?

Trump lies way way more. - prove it

For another Trump stiffs people he owes money to. - prove it, and Trump doesn't defraud the elderly in sham housing projects like the Clintons did.

For another Trump steers public money to his businesses. - examples?

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Response to Trevor (Reply #89)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:05 AM

91. And not one is substantiated.

The Guardian

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #91)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:51 PM

92. They substantiate each other.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #41)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 01:28 AM

59. There is no slow down, that's what the lib media wants you to think

I see it worked on you. We are currently at record employment levels, especially among Black and Hispanics. They will vote on that come Nov. 2020. Wages are steadily rising. Prescription drug costs are falling. The markets have bad days once in a while, but always spring right back. The manufacturing jobs lost under BO and that BO said would need a magic wand to bring back are indeed back. Trump has made awesome trade deals with Japan, Mexico, and the EU, and is winning the struggle with China.

I would call that much, much, more than "some economic improvement." More like the best economic improvement since the 1950's.

As for Clinton's economic improvement, he can thank the condition of serving during peace time created by Reagan. All he had to do was not screw up. He was able to drastically cut defense spending and reluctantly balanced the budget when the Republican congress forced his hand.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #13)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 10:33 PM

18. McCabe is toast.

Strzok and Page referred to the "insurance policy" cooked up in "Andy's office"...

With further investigation we'll find out that McCabe was complicit in the whole thing at the behest of Lynch under direct command of Obama.

There are a handful of people who need to start squealing... Or suffer the consequences.

Comey
McCabe
Strzok
Page
Yates
Lynch
The Ohrs
Brennan

And yes...

Obama

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Response to PrescientWon. (Reply #18)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 05:45 PM

23. When?

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Response to Trevor (Reply #23)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 09:01 PM

26. He will be indicted by Durham.

Later this fall?

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Response to PrescientWon. (Reply #26)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 04:32 PM

35. ? ?

Your question mark means you really don't know.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #35)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 01:42 AM

62. Um, how could he know? Do you know he won't be indicted? If so, how?

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Response to Trevor (Reply #11)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 11:21 AM

29. Wouldnt it be a shame???

An attempt is made to perform a coup against an elected president and liberals want it to just go away??

You do not want any level of just but cheered the bullshit sentences against people for supposedly lying to the FBI??? The organization running the scam???!!

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Response to GoldwatersSoul (Reply #29)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 09:19 PM

30. I'm not sure what you are talking about

But there was no coup and the FBI wasn't running a scam.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #30)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:40 AM

31. So what was the crime???

It wasnt an attempt to entangle the president in a crime? If a president commits a crime....what is the remedy? If you are honest you know the answer is removal. How is thay NOT a coup attempt?

I will wait for your viable crime theory. Since Carter Page was never charged with a crime...yet he was the intent of the FBI wiretaps...please explain how this was not a ruse.

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Response to GoldwatersSoul (Reply #31)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 01:03 PM

32. definition coup

"a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government"

Impeachment is a lawful way to remove. It changes only one person and leaves the same party in power. Its not a coup.

The investigations into Trump came from officials doing their jobs. There was no attempt to "entangle" the president.

Carter Page wasn't investigated for a crime. He was investigated as a security threat. We don't know what all was learned about him. He had suspicious contacts with highly placed Russians.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #32)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:05 PM

50. You are full of shit Trev.

Lefty opinions count for zilch.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #32)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:08 PM

57. The "investigation."

Was not a legal action. The security threat was all bullshit as we know now since the original FISA application was denied anf only allowed with the Steele Dossier which was a fabrication.

With each passing revelation we find how much of a set-up it all was.

What is fucking funny is I dont give a shit about Trump...nor any president.

If you are so devoid of critical thinking that you cant find it in yourself to admit that shit is sideways..just let me know.

We dont know anything about Carter Page but it is obvious that it wasnt a whole lot. He has been on every TV show save for the late night shit. He has no fear at all and he didnt get arrested.

Tell me do you think the government should be spying on Americans because they have "suspicious" contacts.

I get it....you got to carry the shitty water for the FBI and the CIA...cus RESIST but are you so devoted that they removed your brain in case you were a safety threat????

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Response to GoldwatersSoul (Reply #57)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:20 PM

58. The investigation was lawful.

Since we don't have complete FISA applications we can't be sure what changed from one to another.

Many days have passed and there is no evidence it was a "set up." If there was evidence and I ignored it then it would make sense for you to claim my brain was removed or I can't admit shit is sideways. But there is no evidence of a plot.

I want the FBI and CIA to protect us from foreign encroachments. I want the government to follow the law when they do that.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #58)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 01:46 AM

63. You didn't read post 57, did you?

The fake dossier lead to the investigation. If the basis of the investigation was unlawful, the investigation itself is unlawful. Get it?

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #63)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 12:08 PM

68. No evidence that the dossier was intentionally untrue.

Many investigations lead nowhere. If guilt was certain before investigations began there would be no reason to have investigations.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #68)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:03 AM

90. Yeah...

Your a hack.

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Response to GoldwatersSoul (Reply #90)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:52 PM

93. You're?

Aren't you the one who claimed to be a college professor?

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Response to Trevor (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:48 PM

75. You support lies being part of a FISA warrant?

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Response to Carl (Reply #75)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:51 PM

77. Of course not.

I have no idea where you came up with that.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #77)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:53 PM

79. What is known.as soon as any part of the Steele hoax was used the process was poisoned.

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Response to Carl (Reply #79)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:57 PM

81. They only used one small portion of it.

And we don't know if they were able to independently confirm that.

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Response to PrescientWon. (Original post)

Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:58 PM

6. There are only two real questions.

How many of the deep state treason traitors can we stand in front of the firing squad at the same time?

AND

Do we have to move the bodies in-between rounds.

We need top get started yesterday.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 01:11 AM

9. Remember how they built the gallows at the Navy Yard in DC for the Lincoln conspirators?

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Response to PrescientWon. (Original post)

Tue Sep 3, 2019, 11:16 PM

8. Yes !

F Obama !

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Response to PrescientWon. (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:00 AM

10. Ive got no faith in the FBI DOJ or CIA

They’ll abuse laws as they feel like it. Prosecute others as they feel like it. Everything they do is random.

We’re a full blown banana republic.

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Response to Let it go (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:17 PM

17. with Donnie as dictator?

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Response to Salaam (Reply #17)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 12:00 AM

19. It runs itself. POTUS cant do anything about them.

Heck they act against him.

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Response to Let it go (Reply #19)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 08:43 PM

24. The FBI is the national police.

And Donnie fears the police because he is a crook.

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Response to Salaam (Reply #24)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 04:31 AM

28. FBI is power hungry control freak.

They broke the law and they’ll do what they need to to survive.

Trump needs to burn it down.

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Response to PrescientWon. (Original post)

Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:16 PM

16. LOL

good one. Donnie could have written it.

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Response to Salaam (Reply #16)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 03:27 AM

22. Yes, President Trump could have written because he is in touch with public sentiment.

That is why he will get a second term. Finally a POTUS who relates to the normal people.

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #22)

Thu Sep 5, 2019, 08:44 PM

25. LOL

I would ask you to define normal, but why bother.

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Response to Salaam (Reply #25)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 01:11 AM

27. Hatred-blinded lefty is not normal. There's your first clue.

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