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Sun Sep 8, 2019, 12:27 PM

Concerning Obama's Birthplace and Religion

Do you think


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He is a Kenyan-born Muslim
2 (13%)
He is a Kenyan-born Christian
0 (0%)
He is a Kenyan-born atheist/agnostic
2 (13%)
He is an American-born Muslim
1 (7%)
He is an American-born Christian
8 (53%)
He is an American-born atheist/agnostic
2 (13%)
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Reply Concerning Obama's Birthplace and Religion (Original post)
Cold Warrior Sunday OP
Gunslinger201 Sunday #1
Trevor Sunday #2
Gunslinger201 Sunday #3
Trevor Sunday #4
Gunslinger201 Sunday #5
Trevor Sunday #9
Gunslinger201 Sunday #10
Trevor Sunday #11
jh4freedom Sunday #21
oflguy Sunday #6
Cold Warrior Sunday #8
oflguy Sunday #13
jh4freedom Sunday #22
oflguy Sunday #26
jh4freedom Sunday #29
oflguy Tuesday #39
D26-15 Sunday #7
quad489 Sunday #12
Cold Warrior Sunday #15
D26-15 Sunday #19
quad489 Sunday #25
Trumplethinskin Sunday #14
Banshee 3 Actual Sunday #18
Cold Warrior Sunday #20
Banshee 3 Actual Sunday #23
Cold Warrior Sunday #24
Banshee 3 Actual Sunday #28
Cold Warrior Sunday #31
Banshee 3 Actual Sunday #34
Cold Warrior Sunday #35
Banshee 3 Actual Sunday #36
Cold Warrior Sunday #37
jh4freedom Sunday #38
Thorson Sunday #30
jh4freedom Sunday #33
D26-15 Sunday #32
oflguy Tuesday #40
Banshee 3 Actual Sunday #16
quad489 Sunday #27
jh4freedom Sunday #17

Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 12:55 PM

1. I dont know where Obama was born

And Neither do you

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 12:59 PM

2. His birth certificate

would be proof in a court of law.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 01:03 PM

3. Sure, submit the Disk



They sent a Lawyer all the way to Hawaii to pick up a Computer Disk

Why didn’t they just Email the File to the White House?

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 01:27 PM

4. I don't know

Hawaii verified both birth certificates.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:05 PM

5. Of Course they did

Then the woman who Certified it died

The only person on the plane to die



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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:02 PM

9. The governor verified it, among others.

Do you think Obama had this lady murdered? If she verified his birth certificate why would he want to kill her? Must have been Trump who did it.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:04 PM

10. Show me a Hard Copy



Not a Computer File

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:14 PM

11. How can I show you a hard copy on the Internet?

Besides, the records are probably stored on computers.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 06:53 PM

21. Obama put a copy of the long form on the White House web site

For the whole wide world to see.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate

Under the law of the state of Hawaii, if anybody wanted to see the original hard copy document, they needed to go to a judge of a court of competent jurisdiction, get a court order from the judge and then the state of Hawaii’s Health Department would have given them access to the vault copy or they could have received a hard copy.
Here’s a link to the Hawaii statute: https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm (See point 9).

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:05 PM

6. Why do you care where he was born?

The fact that he is a Muslim who funded and supports terrorism is what is important

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Response to oflguy (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 02:30 PM

8. Dumpie-Trumpie sure cared a lot about where Obama was born

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:39 PM

13. Thats an evasion of my question

naturally

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Response to oflguy (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 06:55 PM

22. Osama bin laden down in hell

Disagrees with you.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #22)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 07:35 PM

26. What did Obama have to do with it?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #26)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 07:46 PM

29. President Obama ordered the raid on the Bin Laden compound.

“Obama’s Secret Rationale for the Raid on Bin Laden”
Nearly eight years later, the public still knows precious little about how and why the decision was made.

“So it looks like those secret Osama bin Laden memos are going to stay secret a bit longer. These are the written opinions by lawyers at multiple U.S. intelligence agencies, drafted in 2011 at the request of President Barack Obama’s administration, on whether the U.S. had the legal right to capture or kill bin Laden at his hideout in Pakistan. The existence (but not the text) of these opinions came to light in 2015, and various groups have been chasing them ever since. Last week, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled that the government did not have to make them public.

In the summer of 2010, the U.S. received information that bin Laden was living in a compound in Abbottabad in northern Pakistan. By the following spring, the Obama administration had sufficient confidence in the intelligence to order a strike on the compound. The successful mission brought Obama well-deserved accolades from across the political spectrum, and became a cornerstone of his re-election campaign.

But between the receipt of the information and the approval of the operation came the need for legal advice. Four top administration lawyers — the general counsels of the Pentagon and the CIA and the legal advisers to the National Security Council and the Joint Chiefs of Staff — prepared five written memoranda on the legality of various aspects of capturing or killing bin Laden.

According to a 2015 account in the New York Times, the creation of these documents was tricky. For one thing, the administration was reluctant to read the lawyers into the closely guarded secret of the compound’s existence. And the researching and drafting of the opinions was itself surrounded by extraordinary security precautions. The lawyers were forbidden to consult their staffs, and had to do all the writing themselves, on special secure laptops.

As soon as the existence of these documents became known, Judicial Watch sought their disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act. All the involved agencies denied the request. Judicial Watch sued, but the trial court ruled for the government, based on FOIA’s exemptions for national security and communications with the president. Last week the D.C. Circuit agreed. In an opinion by Judge Judith W. Rogers, the court quite cogently explained the reasons.

“The extraordinary decision confronting the President in considering whether to order a military strike on Osama bin Laden’s compound in Pakistan cries out for confidentiality,” Rogers wrote. That confidentiality, she continued, necessarily extends to the legal advice Obama received in determining whether to order a strike. The views of the lawyers, Rogers noted, were in effect a part of the deliberations, “shared only with the President and his closest advisers.”
Thus to force disclosure of the memos would inhibit internal communications and debate in the future.
(Excerpt)
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-01-29/obama-s-secret-rationale-for-the-raid-on-bin-laden

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #29)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:50 PM

39. Obama "ordered the raid"

What was he going to say when they found him after many years of tracking him down, NO?

Get a life.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 04:27 PM

12. Kinda irrelevant 10 years later..............

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Response to quad489 (Reply #12)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:52 PM

15. Tell that to the poster who brought up his religion in a post earlier today

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #15)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 06:17 PM

19. When George Steppinoffthebuss has to correct you on your religion...

you are screwed.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #15)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 07:35 PM

25. So you're blaming some other poster for your OP...???

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:50 PM

14. Righty's obsession with lying about Obama's birthplace and religion

Is why Trump will never get any slack or respect from me.

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Response to Trumplethinskin (Reply #14)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:59 PM

18. Birther number One- Hillary Supporter Philip J. Berg Esq. LIFETIME Democrat

Berg v Obama
https://dockets.justia.com/docket/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-3rd-circuit/1498770.html

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2016/09/16/hillary-clinton-campaign-manager-admits-birtherism-started/

Patti Solis Doyle, who was Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager in 2008 until the Iowa caucuses, admitted on Friday that a Clinton campaign staffer had, in fact, circulated the Birther conspiracy theory that Barack Obama was born outside the U.S. and therefore potentially ineligible to serve in the presidency.
Doyle made the admission on Twitter, as she responded to former George W. Bush spokesman Ari Fleischer. Fleischer said that Clinton’s staff had spread the rumor. Doyle said that was a “lie” — but admitted, in the same tweet, that she had fired the “rogue” staffer who had used email to spread the Birther conspiracy theory.

As usual the Cunt tried to Character assassinate from the shadows


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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 06:30 PM

20. Yes, you post that every time it is pointed out that

the tree greatest populizers/promoters/hucksters of Birtherism were Sheriff Joe, Jerome Corsi, and Dumpie-Trumpie.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/sep/16/donald-trump-barack-obama-birther-theory-video

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #20)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 07:27 PM

23. It needs to be pointed out so the Democrat Lies are exposed

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #23)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 07:31 PM

24. But the lies are overwhelmingly pushed by the trio I mentioned above

Good of you to acknowledge the whole Birther thing as lies, btw.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #24)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 07:37 PM

28. I've never said he was NOT an US citizen, He was born to a bigamist statutory rapist

Who was still Married to Kezia Obama when he raped and impregnated underage Stanley Ann Dunham, a US citizen

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #28)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 07:52 PM

31. Not sure why you are saying Durham was raped

She never claimed that. Obama was born when she was 18y 8m and 8d. Neither was it statutory rape.

“The final state to raise its age of general consent was Hawaii, which changed it from 14 to 16 in 2001.”

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #31)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 09:04 PM

34. Statutory rape old timer

Age of Consent in 1960 was 21 so she was legally underage, it was 14 from 1965 onwards


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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #34)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 09:28 PM

35. Not sure where you are getting that

“Between 1925 and 1973 the Territory, and later the State, of Hawaii prohibited males from having sexual contact with a girl under 12 or sexual intercourse with a girl under 16.”

REPORT OF THE AGE OF CONSENT TASK FORCE

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #35)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 09:33 PM

36. What Im getting at is She could NOT give Consent. We dont ask Statutory rape victims their opinion

But hey you seem fine with a Bigamist statutory rapist making a child pregnant, Your values I suppose?

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #36)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 09:38 PM

37. Your reply is non responsive

You have stated that the age of consent was 21 in Hawaii in 1960. I have quoted from the state’s task force investigating changing the age of consent that it was not. Now you, in typical fashion, refuse to simply admit YOU WERE WRONG. There was no rape, statutory or other.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:02 PM

38. Actually Birther number one is Andy Martin

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Response to Trumplethinskin (Reply #14)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 07:47 PM

30. HillHag started it during the Dem primary when she ran against him.

Were you not paying attention then?

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Response to Thorson (Reply #30)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:49 PM

33. Actually it was a guy named Andy Martin who started it.

A Clinton supporter named Phil Berg picked up on Martin’s theory. The Clinton campaign looked into the charge, found that there was nothing to it and dropped it. Use the search engine of your choice and see if you can find any reference to Hillary Clinton EVER even mentioning it.
“No, Clinton didn't start the birther thing. This guy did.”
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/birther-movement-founder-trump-clinton-228304
Here’s a link to the Wikipedia entry on Andy Martin:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin

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Response to Trumplethinskin (Reply #14)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:49 PM

32. Again:

19. When George Steppinoffthebuss has to correct you on your religion...

you are screwed.

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Response to Trumplethinskin (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 12:53 PM

40. What religion do YOU think he is, thinskin?

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:55 PM

16. American Born to a bigamist statutory rapist father and US citizen mother

Barack Sr was still married to Kezia Obama when he impregnated underage Stanley Ann Dunham

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 07:37 PM

27. At least Stan wasn't 9 yrs old.............

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:56 PM

17. According to Donald Trump

“Trump: Obama was born in the United States. Period.”
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article102209602.html

“Obamas attend Easter services”
The first family greeted parishioners and took communion at St. John's Episcopal Church, attending Easter service at a historic church a short walk from the White House. A crowd of onlookers gathered outside the church as the first family arrived, and during prayers, the president, who sat about six rows back from the front pew, was mentioned.

"Guide and bless us in our work and play, and shape the patterns of our political and economic life; we pray for Barack, our president, the leaders of Congress, and the Supreme Court, and all who are in authority; for Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan, and the Middle East, that all people may be filled through the bounty of your creation."
https://www.politico.com/story/2009/04/obamas-attend-easter-services-021153

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