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Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:00 PM

It's starting to look inevitable that farms will be farmed by "corporate employees."

Trump and the Republicans tricked the farmers into voting themselves off the farm. Suppose Trump had told farmers in 2016 that he and the Republicans would start a Republican trade war. Do you think any farmer would have voted for any Republican that year?

The farmers are fighting a trade war started by Republicans in the stupidest way possible. Trump and his Republicans first killed the TPP (goodbye leverage on China). Then Trump and his Republicans declared a trade war on all of our allies. Then, with America weakened and isolated by them, Trump and his Republicans declared a trade war against our biggest trading partner, China.

Trump and his Republicans said it would be "easy." Well, of course it is, for Trump and his Republicans. The wealthy and corporations will just sit back and let the farmers, manufacturing workers, and consumers fight their Republican Trade War. How many of the family farms that go down will be snapped up by city investors?

Probably a lot. And maybe one out of two (you tell me) of the dispossessed farmers will get to stay in farming, as a salaried worker on Republican corporate property.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:02 PM

1. You know nothing of farming.

Or farmers.

It is amusing when you share your delusions though.

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Response to kevlar (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:15 PM

3. What I wonder about is why this sudden concern on the part of Democrats and primitives

about the well-being of farmers.

They didn't use to pay attention to farmers excepting to denigrate them as louts and rednecks and yahoos and peasants. Democrats and primitives tended to favor the urban voters and causes.

Can anyone remember, for example, Bill Clinton saying something about farmers? Or Barack Obama?

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:38 PM

6. It's the triangulation game

aimed at rural voters.

Most of those louts and rednecks and yahoos and peasants are wise to leftys bullshit games.



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Response to imwithfred (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:48 PM

8. Words vs. deeds.

Trump and his Republicans whisper sweet nothings in your ear. They tell you how Dems do nothing but put you down and look down on you. But Trump and his Republicans are behind corporate agriculture and denial of local control. If a small farmer ends up with a giant hog farm next door where they once had a neighboring farmer, that's Trump and his Republicans at work.

Trump and his Republicans are behind cuts to USDA services consumed by farmers. But Trump and his Republicans say such nice things...and Trump and his Republicans say Dems say mean things. But Trump and his Republicans are lying.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:11 PM

2. The trade war is necessary.

and Trump's the only president with balls enough to do it. Previous presidents like Obama, W and Clinton just rolled over and played dead with respect to other countries slapping unfair tariffs on our exports and dumping steel and aluminum to undercut our industries.

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Response to foia (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:15 PM

4. We have to level the playing field in trade, in giving the Norks payoffs to be quiet for many things

Too many presidents, Obama was front and center in this, have given away the advantage in trade or other foreign negotiations.

We have a businessman as president, not a "kiss ass make everyone happy but giving them things", politician.

We are damn lucky to have his voice, his spine, and his business knowledge in the white house.

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Response to foia (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:55 PM

10. That's what the first Republican presidential material example, Dubya, said about Iraq.

And how come the wealthy Republicans did so great during all this decline in the past few decades? Their share of the wealth went way up. Their share of the taxes went way down.

Trump and his Republicans hand out lip service. They spread lies, distort, and exaggerate. You don't notice they've taken something from you that way.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:18 PM

5. These Trump supporting farmers and such who are now taking it on the chin should have listened

to their grandfathers when it comes to right-wing Republican economics. They knew what the GOP was all about.

Some righty idiots love working for a corporate master because they don't have the guts to stand up for themselves, but the people who thought they would remain independent are getting a big surprise.

It's a shame.

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Response to Sullivan (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:39 PM

7. Cool narrative.

To bad its just more lefty transparent bullshit.

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Response to Sullivan (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:22 PM

11. Hear, hear! eom

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Response to Sullivan (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 01:29 PM

14. What names will you call this subset

of American citizens when they vote for Trump again?

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:54 PM

9. the capitalist version of soviet collectives

American agriculture is only sustainable by massive fertilization anyway. our crops lack the trace elements which constitute nutrition so we have to "fertilize" ourselves with industrial vitamins while eating too many unfulfilling calories.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 05:18 AM

12. I will ask again...You do know when the dairy industry price collapse occured don't you?

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 05:42 AM

13. This is not Trump's trade war.

The trade war belongs to the previous presidents who allowed China to steal our intellectual property and impose unbalanced tariffs on our goods. Trump is merely trying to negotiate the end of the war.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 01:37 PM

15. This would not have been necessary (and it most definitely is necessary)

Had previous Administrations, both Republican and Democrat, not made it economically attractive and profitable to ship our manufacturing capacity to an enemy nation. Now we are going to have to endure some short term pain for the sake of our domestic productivity and national security.

War, a real hot shooting war is coming with China within many of our lifetimes. Now is the time to begin to prepare, unless you plan on learning how to kowtow and learn to say "ni how".

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 01:40 PM

16. Isn't that what Lefty internationalists have been pushing for years?

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 01:51 PM

17. Um...

...."How many of the family farms that go down will be snapped up by city investors?"

I have no idea...do you?

...."Probably a lot. And maybe one out of two (you tell me) of the dispossessed farmers will get to stay in farming, as a salaried worker on Republican corporate property."

"Probably"...a lot?

So, you know exactly what the rest of us know about how this will turn out: absolutely squat.

"Probably" should have considered that before penning yet another ignorant post.

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