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Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:04 PM

The genocide of our allies has begun

So many of the right here claim to be military but no military would abandon allies like this... Pitiful liars.

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Reply The genocide of our allies has begun (Original post)
Ohio Joe Wednesday OP
Mr.Solis Wednesday #1
HermantownHawk Wednesday #2
Ohio Joe Wednesday #5
Mr.Solis Wednesday #7
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Ohio Joe Wednesday #16
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Charlie Mike Wednesday #4
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Ohio Joe Wednesday #12
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Mr.Solis Wednesday #10
Ohio Joe Wednesday #14
kevlar Wednesday #17
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Steelydamned Wednesday #13
Ohio Joe Wednesday #21
Steelydamned Wednesday #32
Ohio Joe Wednesday #42
Steelydamned Wednesday #49
LexTalionis Wednesday #19
Ohio Joe Wednesday #23
LexTalionis Wednesday #28
Ohio Joe Wednesday #36
LexTalionis Wednesday #44
Da Mannn Wednesday #22
Ohio Joe Wednesday #29
Charlie Mike Wednesday #33
Ohio Joe Wednesday #35
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Ohio Joe Wednesday #51
Charlie Mike Wednesday #54
Da Mannn Wednesday #37
Ohio Joe Wednesday #48
Valishin Wednesday #24
Ohio Joe Wednesday #31
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Ohio Joe Wednesday #47
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bfox74 Wednesday #25
Ohio Joe Wednesday #34
Charlie Mike Wednesday #40
Da Mannn Wednesday #41
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Response to Ohio Joe (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:07 PM

1. The Status Quo has failed. No more US blood in the sands of the Middle East.

Leave us out of the tribal battles and holy wars.

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Response to Mr.Solis (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:09 PM

2. This!

.....couldn’t agree more. The battles have been raging for thousands of years. We need to stay out of it.

We have long range bombers and Tomahawk middles of our interests are in jeopardy.

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Response to HermantownHawk (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:21 PM

5. So... You would stab allies in the back as well...

You want to abandon Israel also? Seems like it.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:25 PM

7. There is no such thing as an ally in warfare.

There are only shared interests and those are short term.

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Response to Mr.Solis (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:31 PM

11. So the right will stab anyone in the back...

There is a word for that...

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:38 PM

15. You must be a boomer.

Poor judgment and understanding of situations.

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Response to Mr.Solis (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:44 PM

16. You have a good reason to abandon allies?

Can't wait to hear it.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:50 PM

26. There are no allies in warfare. Only shared interests.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:50 PM

27. Nowhere.....

.....did I say the US should attack our allies. We should not be putting boots on the ground to police regional battles where we have no interests.

Israel can take of themselves just fine. In fact, the US has likely governed them over the decades. Had we stepped out of their way, they would control even more territory.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:17 PM

50. Nations don't have friends. Nations have interests.

-Charles de Gaulle.

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Response to Mr.Solis (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:14 PM

3. So you want to abandon Israel?

How many other allies do you feel we should abandon?

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:26 PM

8. The pivot on war-mongering is stunning.

I used to be called a commie by guys like the righties here for saying we shouldn't have the global military position that we have. For saying things like "is it really in our interest..." and "you can't ignore unintended consequences" (think ISIS).

And as much as I still believe that we should pull back from our military everywhere on the globe approach, doing so in the ill-thought through and ham handed manner Trump is going with will ... wait for it ... lead to unintended consequences.

Of course, by the time those consequences bite us in the ass, a Democrat will be in the White House and the right will act like it's all their fault since they're weak on the military ... blah blah blah.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:53 PM

30. Israel....

.....can more than take care of themselves. We should simply get out of their way.

I’m okay with bringing our soldiers home from Japan, Bahrain, Europe and Korea.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:20 PM

4. Lefty doesn't care. Lefty just wants props for his puppet show.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:25 PM

6. So you are ok abandoning allies?

Or are you just deflecting and afraid to address poor old Fredo leaving our allies to be killed?

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:30 PM

9. You didn't care all the other times it happened.

Nobody cares about YOUR fake outrage.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:34 PM

12. When did that happen?

Cite me abandoning allies or be proven a liar. Oh... Lets see your defense of abandoning allies.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:47 PM

20. And when I prove it guess what that makes you.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:07 PM

45. Proceed...

What are you waiting for?

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #45)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:09 PM

46. For you to admit that, by YOUR OWN RULES you will be a backstabber.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #45)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:32 PM

55. As usual, he's got nothing

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:30 PM

10. You are naive to think there are "allies" in any war.

There is only temporary tolerance in pursuit of a common interest.

We have wanted an exit from the ME for a while now. Who cares who triggered it, our boys are coming home,

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Response to Mr.Solis (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:36 PM

14. So... you are a backstabber...

Noted.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:45 PM

17. I love how lefty logic works.....

You go from A, to B, to Cookie monster.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:45 PM

18. I could be. That is the point.

If we have no mutual interests, I should not be trusted. If we have a shared interest, you would tolerate my participation as it is a means towards your end.

When you have received your ends. Now, what is the wager? We are the only presence left. Together, we defeated our enemies, and as past experience shows, we are both willing to fight. You should be cautious.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:35 PM

13. Genocide?

Where are you getting this information? I've not seen any mention of 'genocide' anywhere else.....

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Response to Steelydamned (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:47 PM

21. I'm sure they will just kill some...

That must make you feel much better to abandon allies.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #21)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:56 PM

32. Wow.....

...I've not written one single word about this issue and merely asked you a question as to where you're getting your info so, not sure why you turned up your asshole meter to 11.

"Genocide" has a definition...it's not just some word you throw out flippantly 'cause you feel it helps you provide a smackdown to "righty."

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Response to Steelydamned (Reply #32)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:05 PM

42. So comment... Silence is consent...

They faught side by side with our special forces for 15 years... Grow a pair and speak up or remain silent and agree with the backstabbing.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #42)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:17 PM

49. So who made you arbiter of this board?

If I choose to remain silent on any issue, that's my prerogative and you have ZERO say in the matter.

I asked YOU: what Genocide? You chose that word...

'Cause according to the Military Times, most of the Press' breathless reporting on this seems to be - surprise - totally inaccurate:

US withdrawal in Syria is only a small number of special operators, says Trump administration

"A senior administration official told reporters Monday that Sunday’s announcement did not constitute a full U.S. withdrawal from Syria and that only 50 to 100 U.S. special operations forces were moving to other locations in Syria.

The official explained that Trump’s decision to move the special operators out of the zone of a potential Turkish operation was done to protect troops and keep them out of the crossfire.

Those troops are moving to more secure areas over the next several days, the official said.

“The Department of Defense made clear to Turkey — as did the president — that we do not endorse a Turkish operation in Northern Syria," Jonathan Hoffman, the chief Pentagon spokesman said. “The U.S. armed forces will not support, or be involved in any such operation.”

https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2019/10/07/how-the-us-troop-withdrawal-from-northern-syria-could-create-an-isis-resurgence/


So..rather than just start freaking out and accusing everyone who doesn't agree with you of being a "backstabber," I prefer to wait and see what additional FACTUAL information comes out before forming an opinion....or screeching "Genocide!"

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Response to Ohio Joe (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:47 PM

19. I bet you said the same thing when your God Obama did, the same thing.

On the other. Its good to see the Left turn into War Hawks.

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Response to LexTalionis (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:49 PM

23. I don't have a god...

You seem fine stabbing allies in the back for yours though.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #23)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:53 PM

28. No, just calling out one of the biggest jokes on here.

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Response to LexTalionis (Reply #28)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:00 PM

36. Poor righty can't defend backstabbing...

So they attempt insults. Sad.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #36)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:06 PM

44. Poor lefty cant spell Hypocrisy, nor knows the meaning.

So sad, but expected.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:48 PM

22. the only warmongers on this board are Lefties. They WANT war.

But only so they can use against Trump.
Are you referring to the Kurds?
Tell me Joe. what military alliance do we have with them? Oh wait, we DON"T have any alliance

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #22)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:53 PM

29. 15 years they faught with our special forces...

I don't want war... Nor do I want to abandon allies... Only backstabbers do that. I don't need a document to not leave those who stand by us to die. You seem ok with it.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:56 PM

33. Faker

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #33)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:58 PM

35. What a sad come back...

Can't defend your backstabbing so you attempt an insult... Sad.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #35)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:02 PM

39. Defend your backstabbing when Obama did it.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #39)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:17 PM

51. Cite when I did that or be a liar...

Again.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #51)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:31 PM

54. That's the point, oh, illiterate one. You never cared when Obama abandoned the Kurds.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:01 PM

37. Liar. You would never back up the Kurds. You just want WAR.

Democrats consistently voted down the US attempts of arming the Kurds.
You want war for selfish political purposes. Ohio Joe is a hypocrite.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #37)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:16 PM

48. OJ is not a backstabber

Da Mannn is and admits it.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:49 PM

24. Wait a moment

did we sign an alliance with the kurds that agreed to protect them from another ally?

I am all for the world pressuring Turkey to leave them so long as the kurdish military doesn't attack Turkey first. However, if we are going to have entangling alliances then we need to adhere to them first or do away with them. Seems like some wise person once warned us not to get into those in the first place.

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Response to Valishin (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:54 PM

31. So you need paper...

To not stab someone in the back... Noted.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #31)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:01 PM

38. Who stabbed who?

We didn't attack the kurds. We aren't condoning Turkey's actions, contrary to what the media tried to claim. All we did is saying we aren't going to leave our people there to act as human shields.

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Response to Valishin (Reply #38)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:14 PM

47. They faught beside our special forces for 15 years...

But hey... You are ok with them now being slaughtered... Noted.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #47)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:25 PM

52. Please quote where I said that?

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Response to Ohio Joe (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:49 PM

25. Please explain to us why we still need allies int he ME.

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 04:56 PM

34. So... You think we should abandon Israel?

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #34)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:02 PM

40. I think we should abandon democrats.

Useless traitors

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #34)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:02 PM

41. We have an alliance with Israel, and Turkey, but NOT the Kurds.

the Kurds are not a nation, just an ethnic group.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #34)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:06 PM

43. I'm waiting for your answer.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2019, 05:26 PM

53. Except we did from 2012-2016 and none of you lefties gave a fuck.

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