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Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:07 PM

For a lefty the Roger Stone trial is great spectator sport

Last edited Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:37 PM - Edit history (1)

One of Trump’s oldest friends and wealthiest supporters is on trial.
The federal prosecutors going after Stone are from the Bill Barr Justice Department. The only Democrat involved is the judge, Amy Berman Jackson, appointed by Obama.
Witnesses for the prosecution will include former Trump White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon and former Trump Campaign Deputy Chairman Rick Gates.
And all-Republican affair!


From today: “Roger Stone trial goes off the rails as jury ordered not to watch 'The Godfather'”
The mob classic has been repeatedly referenced during Stone's trial, where he's charged with lying to Congress and obstructing justice.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/roger-stone-trial-goes-rails-jury-ordered-not-watch-godfather-n1078526

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Reply For a lefty the Roger Stone trial is great spectator sport (Original post)
jh4freedom Thursday OP
imwithfred Thursday #1
D26-15 Thursday #3
jh4freedom Thursday #4
D26-15 Thursday #7
jh4freedom Thursday #6
D26-15 Thursday #8
Nostrings Thursday #11
jh4freedom Thursday #13
Grumpy Pickle Thursday #2
jh4freedom Thursday #5
Grumpy Pickle Thursday #9
Steelydamned Thursday #10
jh4freedom Thursday #12
Steelydamned Thursday #14
HermantownHawk Thursday #15

Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:11 PM

1. Yeah, I'm sure you also got a kick out of watching

an old man being dragged out of his house in the early morning darkness, his equally aged and deaf wife terrified out of her wits. The nach und nebel decrees--"night and fog"--of the 1940s German socialists had nothing on law enforcement and CNN.

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:21 PM

3. Don't forget... it was a Swat Squad that came for him.

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Response to D26-15 (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:55 PM

4. Yeah, that was cool!

The Director of the FBI on January 25, 2019 when Roger Stone was arrested was TRUMP appointee Christopher Wray.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:03 PM

7. Did Trump send them?

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:02 PM

6. It was Trumps FBI


“Michael German, a former FBI special agent and now a fellow with the Brennan Center for Justice, said Stone's comparisons to the other raids were "ridiculous" and that armed arrests of this nature seem to have become standard over the past 20 years.

"It's become much more commonplace to use either SWAT teams or tactically trained agents to do arrests across the board," German said.

Authorities must take many factors into consideration before they take someone into custody, he said. "They have the responsibility to not only protect their agents, but the public at large and even the person they are arresting. Often the way to do that is with overwhelming force that would tend to dissuade any resistance."

Was the FBI's show of force too heavy-handed, as has been alleged? Absolutely not," wrote James Gagliano, a former FBI agent, in a column for the Washington Examiner.

"In the FBI, we tend to defuse situations by removing the fight-or-flight inclination, via our overwhelming presence. To arrest one, we bring 10. For 10, we'll bring 100," he also explained.

Apart from the question about whether the procedures in Stone's arrest were uncommon, German said the question it has raised is a sound one: Has law enforcement in the United States become overmilitarized?

"While it might be perfectly justifiable in this case based on what little we know, I would want to see Congress looking at this as a systemic issue," German told NPR.

He also said Stone may have himself contributed to the way the FBI planned his arrest by his bombastic remarks, which have included posing with weapons and "training" at a firing range in case of a "civil war."
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/01/690305364/fact-check-did-the-fbi-use-unusual-force-when-it-arrested-roger-stone

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:06 PM

8. "In the FBI, we tend to defuse situations by removing the fight-or-flight inclination"

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:38 PM

11. I see you've accepted James Gagliano as a legit authority. That is fantastic, JH.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-michael-flynn-smoking-gun-fbi-headquarters-altered-interview-summary

I am physically nauseous as I type these words. I have long maintained that innocent mistakes were made and that the investigators at the center of this maelstrom were entitled to the benefit of the doubt.

No more.

They have tarnished the badge and forever stained an agency that deserved so much better from them. I am ashamed. The irreparable damage Comey’s team has done to the FBI will take a generation to reverse.

I ashamedly join Hanlon’s Razor in getting this one wrong.

James Gagliano

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:48 PM

13. Since Mr. Gagliano WAS an FBI agent, he knows more than me

About the workings of the agency.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:12 PM

2. " The Godfather " ?

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:56 PM

5. Yeah, Stones favorite movie.

He quotes lines from it all the time.
The prosecutors wanted to show the jury scenes from the movie but the Obama judge said “no.”

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:15 PM

9. ...

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:33 PM

10. My condolences....

...on your apparently sad and lonely existence. For your sake, I hope its televised so that you may revel in a full, and exciting trial experience that your social life is obviously not providing.

'Cause if that's what you deem an "great" spectator event, I'm truly sorry for you.

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Response to Steelydamned (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:44 PM

12. Gee thanks

Unfortunately it’s not being televised.
But I’ll try to keep up with the media reports.
Sounds like you’ve never had the pleasure of enjoying liberals on trial. Try it some time, you might like it. You’re never to old to pick up a new hobby!

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:52 PM

14. I have enough hobbies...

.....and spending any time watching someone else go through a trial, regardless of their politics, I could never describe as a "pleasure."

I've read enough John Grisham over the years.....kinda over legal thrillers.

I'll take being 10 miles offshore reeling in a 30lb Cobia over a courtroom any day.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:56 PM

15. Fertile......

.....Presidential pardon fodder.

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