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Fri Nov 8, 2019, 07:08 PM

Will Eric Ciaramella lose his whistleblower status and go to jail as a leaker?


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Yep. Jail time for Eric Ciaramella!
15 (83%)
Noooooooo! don't say his name, Eric Ciaramella! its a secret! (and no jail)
3 (17%)
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Reply Will Eric Ciaramella lose his whistleblower status and go to jail as a leaker? (Original post)
Da Mannn Friday OP
imwithfred Friday #1
Let it go Friday #2
Trumplethinskin Friday #3
bfox74 Saturday #14
Pennsylvania Friday #4
jh4freedom Friday #5
Rebeca42 Friday #6
jh4freedom Friday #7
Rebeca42 Friday #8
jh4freedom Saturday #11
Iron Condor Saturday #12
Bob the Bilderberger Saturday #13
oldenuff35 Friday #9
foia Friday #10
bfox74 Saturday #15

Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 07:14 PM

1. No, of course not.

He's a Demo. Demos don't go to jail; only Republicans do.

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 07:18 PM

2. He will lose his access...

Not sure if he will go to jail.

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 07:35 PM

3. He's not the whistleblower

But go ahead and believe it all you want.

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Response to Trumplethinskin (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 08:19 AM

14. I think you're right, actually.

I believe the only whistleblower is Adam Schitforbrains. He's invented this entire thing based upon what Ciaramella leaked to him.

Schitty has a record of lying, so this would not be far from is MO.

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 07:46 PM

4. HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

my god. You guys and these ridiculous fantasies


No he’s not going to jail.

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:33 PM

5. Let us review, shall we?

Under the law of the land, the Whistleblower had to be approved for that status by the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson who was appointed to his position by President Trump.
The whistleblower stands to become a very wealthy person if there is retaliation and a judgement is upheld for releasing the whistleblower’s name.

In a previous case: FBI Whistleblower Wins Retaliation Claims
Unanimous Jury Verdict Awards Former Agent $565,000 in Damages
Minneapolis, Minnesota, February 5, 2007.
In a historic ruling against the Federal Bureau of Investigation, a federal court jury unanimously held that the FBI illegally retaliated against Jane Turner, a 25-year veteran FBI agent. The federal jury found that the FBI retaliated against Ms. Turner when it downgraded her performance reviews. She was awarded $60,000 in lost wages and $505,000 for damages to reputation and emotional distress caused by the FBI’s retaliation.
The case was previously heard by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit, which had unanimously upheld the right of Jane Turner to go before a jury and state her claims. That decision can be found at Turner v. Ashcroft , 421 F.3d 688 (8th Cir. 2005).
Ms. Turner’s performance had been attacked by FBI managers after she filed a civil rights case and disclosed serious FBI misconduct in its handling of child abuse cases. In one case, Ms. Turner vigorously complained that the FBI had improperly classified the brutal rape of a two year old Native American child as a “motor vehicle accident.” At the trial, government witnesses confirmed that Ms. Turner had successfully “dogged” the case for over one year and forced the government to re-open the prosecution. Her investigation led to a guilty plea by the rapist.
Among the FBI officials who participated in the retaliatory actions against Ms. Turner were James Burrus, the current Assistant Director of the FBI’s Criminal Division and James Casey, a high level official in the FBI’s counterterrorism program.
Ms. Turner is the same FBI agent who also blew the whistle on FBI theft from Ground Zero (the 9/11 WorldTradeCenter crime scene). As a result of her disclosures the DOJ Office of Inspector General confirmed widespread FBI-takings from Ground Zero.
Stephen M. Kohn, one of Jane Turner’s attorneys, and the President of the National Whistleblowers Center, issued the following statement: “The buck stopped here. Jane Turner is an American hero. She refused to be silent when her co-agents committed misconduct in a child rape case. She refused to be silent when her co-agents stole properly from Ground Zero. She paid the price and lost her job. The jury did the right thing and insured that justice will take place in her case. For eight years the FBI misused its performance review and inspection process to justify vicious retaliation against an award-winning agent.”
https://www.whistleblowers.org/news/fbi-whistleblower-wins-retaliation-claims/

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:19 PM

6. Felons can't profit from their lies

but, nice try commie...

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Response to Rebeca42 (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:34 PM

7. Except

The Whistleblower has not been charged with any crime. When the Chief legal counsel for the U.S. Intelligence Community says you are good to go, you’re good to go.
But nice try, fascist...


By the way: a civil judgement is not considered a “profit.” That is compensatory damages and people who have been charged with and convicted of crimes collect them frequently.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:12 PM

8. I stand by what I said...

"Felons can't profit from their lies
but, nice try commie..."

Every.Word.True

Your opinion means nothing to us, dippy

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Response to Rebeca42 (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:08 AM

11. Of course you stand by what you said.

You’re a deplorable, it’s what you do!

“Jury Awards Federal Prisoner $675,000 in Retaliation, Excessive Force Bivens Case”

Following a trial in April 2017 in a Los Angeles, California federal courtroom, a jury awarded $675,000 to prisoner James M. Jerra in a case that included excessive force and retaliation Bivens claims.

Jerra, who was housed at the Federal Correctional Complex in Lompoc, alleged that after he filed administrative grievances against prison staff they took adverse actions against him, including singling him out for cell searches, confiscating his grievances and other documents, threatening him with more time in the Special Housing Unit where he was then housed, roughing him up and over-detaining him in the SHU for no legitimate correctional purpose. Those actions, he argued, were to deter him from continuing to file grievances and to retaliate for previous filings.

Jerra further asserted that when he visited the prison’s law library, he was subjected to excessive force when officers placed him in handcuffs and then squeezed his testicles – causing great pain – under the guise of “searching for contraband.” He was slammed to the ground when he protested, which left him with a laceration to his eye and damage to his spine. He was issued three disciplinary reports in a single day in connection with that incident.

On the First Amendment claims, the jury awarded Jerra $10,000 against Officer Edwin Navato for threatening him with a longer SHU stay if he continued to write grievances, and $20,000 against counselor Baltazar Magana for writing him up and/or using force against him during the law library incident. With respect to the Eighth Amendment claims, the jury awarded $470,000 in compensatory damages plus $175,000 in punitive damages against Magana. The jury found in favor of the other defendants.

Post trial, Jerra elected to dismiss his Federal Tort Claim Act (FTCA) claims and only pursue the judgment on his Bivens claims; he also agreed to reduce the $175,000 in punitive damages to $5,000 by stipulation. Judgment was entered by the district court on September 26, 2017.

The defendants moved for judgment as a matter of law, to alter or amend the judgment, relief from judgment and for a new trial, which the court denied on March 29, 2018. The verdict was appealed to the Ninth Circuit in May 2018. Jerra was represented at trial by the law firm of Gibson, Dunn and Crutcher LLP. See: Jerra v. United States, U.S.D.C. (C.D. Cal.), Case No. 2:12-cv-01907-ODW-AGR.
https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2018/sep/5/jury-awards-federal-prisoner-675000-retaliation-excessive-force-bivens-case/

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 06:11 AM

12. Has the statute of limitations to charge him ran out yet?

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 08:09 AM

13. "The federal jury found that the FBI retaliated against Ms. Turner "

That's the purpose of the law ... to protect a government employee from her government bosses. The press was not covered under the law by exposing her name.

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:35 PM

9. Does it matter? He has been unmasked, exposed, and his face is all over the place.

One news station even found his parents home and went there with their cameras looking for him.

Kevlar and a new face is what he needs.

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:38 PM

10. Is it really a leak if it's just a lie?

Leaking the truth is one thing, making shit up is another.

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Response to foia (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 08:23 AM

15. It might not be a lie, but it is definitely opinion based on hearsay.

So, either way, it won't stand up to the American people. Retarded demos in congress will take it as gospel. but that's because they are, well, retarded.

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