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Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:37 AM

The Ten Happiest Nations on Earth

According to the United Nations, the 10 happiest countries in 2019 are:
1) Finland
2) Denmark
3) Norway
4) Iceland
5) The Netherlands
6) Switzerland
7) Sweden
8) New Zealand
9) Canada
10) Austria
The United States ranked 19th. Too many opiate addicts does not make for a happy country.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/03/finland-is-the-world-s-happiest-country-again/

"The survey, conducted by Gallup, uses a three-year rolling average of survey responses around six factors: GDP per capita; social support; life expectancy; freedom to make life choices; generosity; and corruption levels. Finland scores well on all factors but particularly strongly on generosity.

The authors say that helping others makes you feel better, but only if you choose to do it. Almost half of Finns donate regularly to charity and almost a third said they had given up time to volunteer for a charity in the previous month.

The Copenhagen-based Happiness Research Institute points out that Finland tops the happiness list despite not having the highest GDP of the Nordic countries. It is the country’s social safety net combined with personal freedom and a good work-life balance that gives it the edge."

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Reply The Ten Happiest Nations on Earth (Original post)
jh4freedom Dec 3 OP
Badsamm Dec 3 #1
quad489 Dec 3 #23
imwithfred Dec 3 #2
Da Mannn Dec 3 #3
jh4freedom Dec 3 #15
BAMN Dec 3 #4
jh4freedom Dec 3 #14
BAMN Dec 3 #25
quad489 Dec 3 #5
jh4freedom Dec 3 #16
quad489 Dec 3 #22
PrescientWon. Dec 4 #42
bfox74 Dec 3 #6
jh4freedom Dec 3 #18
bfox74 Dec 3 #19
CornFed Dec 3 #20
Steelydamned Dec 3 #21
quad489 Dec 4 #35
PrescientWon. Dec 4 #43
TheShoe Dec 3 #7
FreeWheelBurning Dec 3 #8
Charlie Mike Dec 3 #9
JanetS Dec 3 #10
Carlos_Danger Dec 3 #13
quad489 Dec 4 #36
Steelydamned Dec 3 #11
Jardinier Dec 3 #12
Nostrings Dec 3 #17
jh4freedom Dec 3 #24
Nostrings Dec 3 #26
jh4freedom Dec 3 #30
Nostrings Dec 3 #31
jh4freedom Dec 3 #32
Nostrings Dec 3 #33
jh4freedom Dec 4 #37
Nostrings Dec 4 #38
jh4freedom Dec 4 #40
Nostrings Dec 4 #41
jh4freedom Dec 4 #46
Nostrings Dec 4 #47
PrescientWon. Dec 4 #44
Nostrings Dec 4 #45
PrescientWon. Dec 4 #48
HermantownHawk Dec 3 #27
jh4freedom Dec 3 #29
HermantownHawk Dec 3 #34
jh4freedom Dec 4 #39
WhatEver101 Dec 3 #28

Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:46 AM

1. Time to let them defend themselves

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:58 PM

23. Yep, easy to provide FREE healthcare/college/etc when US taxpayers foot your defense bills...

...long past time for those monies to be spent here in the US.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:18 AM

2. It would be interesting to see the conclusions about countries more like this one,

large in size, large population, several diverse ethnic and cultural groups.

Like, where would we rank among Brazil, Russia, Indonesia?

That's not many samples, but that's all we got. China and India are way too big to be compared with us.

The same goes for homicide statistics, firearms violence, standard of living, treatment of women, longevity, infant mortality, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:32 AM

3. I'll take unalienable rights guaranteed in the Constitution in preference

to life in any of those countries, thank you.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:33 PM

15. OK

You have the inalienable right to stay right where you are.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:12 AM

4. Weird. The suicide rate in Finland is also higher then the US.

I guess maybe its because they are too happy?

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Response to BAMN (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:25 PM

14. Used to be but isn't any more.

"When the UN crowned Finland the world's happiest nation last month for the second year running, there were still quite a few eyebrows raised. How could this Nordic country, better known for its harsh weather and high suicide rate, be the world's happiest?

Although international comparisons are imperfect due to holes in the data, in 1990 official statistics did indeed indicate that Finland's suicide rate was the second highest in the world, behind Hungary.

But Professor Timo Partonen at Finland's National Institute for Health and Welfare, warns against the temptation to blame the problem on Finland's dark, cold climate, or its bleak, concrete, postwar towns.

"If you are depressed in any place in the world, you bear a similar risk of suicide," Partonen told AFP.

"I think that the social connections and how willing you are to seek help and receive help are the most important things here."

Suicides in Finland have now fallen to less than half of 1990 levels. That is thanks largely to a decade-long public health drive to improve treatment and support for those at risk, as well as to make media reporting of the issue more responsible.

These days it is also much more socially acceptable for Finns, especially men, to open up about their feelings, says Partonen.

"Now it's easier to talk about it if you are depressed for example, and it's easier to get treated and have adequate treatment as well."

According to the World Health Organization, Finland's suicide rate is now 22nd highest in the world, lower than the US and one spot higher than Australia."
https://www.thejakartapost.com/life/2019/04/13/finland-from-suicide-hotspot-to-worlds-happiest-country.html

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:35 AM

5. So the happiest nations are mostly homogeneous, Lutheran, low population density, U$ friendly, etc..

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Response to quad489 (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:36 PM

16. Don't forget...

That many on the list favor Social Democratic forms of government. Having universal health care and free public education K through college tends to make people happy!

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:54 PM

22. ''So the happiest nations are mostly homogeneous, Lutheran, low population density, U$ friendly''...

...and do tell everyone here exactly how their FREE healthcare and FREE K thru college public education systems are FREE.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #16)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:58 PM

42. let me remind you...

European conservatives don't mind the "social perks" but they DO mind the foreigners coming in and sucking up those programs.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:42 AM

6. Half the nation not being able to accept the results of a fair election

does not make a happy nation.

Also too many lefties who hate prosperity.

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:48 PM

18. Lefties are more prosperous than rightys.

Of the ten wealthiest Americans 7 are liberals: Gates, Buffett, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Larry Page and Sergei Brin from Google and Michael Bloomberg.
Leftys tend to be better educated and in America, the more education and degrees you have, the more money you can make.
Americans aren't happy because for three straight years now our average life expectancy has decreased while in most of the world people are longer.
Life expectancy in the U.S. keeps going down..."
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-life-expectancy-declined-for-third-year-in-a-row-2019-11

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:01 PM

19. I've said all along that the DNC is the party of the rich

yet the hypocrites hate the rich and berate the fact that Trump has increased prosperity for US citizens.

So thanks for backing up my point.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:17 PM

20. "Lefties are more prosperous than rightys"

That's just dumb

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:39 PM

21. Hahahaha...

..so you're including yourself in with some lefty billionaires in order to virtue signal?

Lawd the hubris

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #18)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 08:40 AM

35. ''Lefties are more prosperous than rightys''..if true, lefties wouldn't need FREE healthcare/college

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #18)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 07:11 PM

43. As someone who's been watching for the last 40-50 years...

the "education thing" is somewhat new.

In the 1950's thru 1970's there was a SIZABLE portion of the population that said "I don't believe in College, just go out and make your own life".

I only went to college in the 80's because of WHAT I wanted to do... hard to be a mechanical engineer from Readers Digest magazine.

And then... by the 1990's... we started to see this WEIRD phenomenon of every other job requiring a degree.

My own experience on this rock has taught me a few things.

1) College doesn't make you smart. College teaches you to be smashing drunk on a Sunday afternoon and somehow pull yourself together to wake up at 6AM on Monday and cram 2 hours for a test.

2) College doesn't make you good at what you do.

3) College is unnecessary for 80% of all occupations, no matter what the hiring manager says.

4) There is no correlation between College and becoming RICH. Although an exception can be made that if you're a member of Harvard Class of '99, you will have doors of opportunity opened up to you your entire life.

5) Real wealth usually is built by entrepreneurs, many of whom don't have a College Degree.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:14 AM

7. Thats because shit hole red states bring us down.

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:43 AM

8. Thank you providing me a reminder as to why the electoral college is a necessity.

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:52 AM

9. Why? They don't have feces and dirty needles strewn everywhere.

Or rampant homicide rates.

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:58 AM

10. Because lefties have shown what happy, loving people they are.

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:53 AM

13. We should all be like San Francisco

amirite?

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 08:44 AM

36. Your feelings are noted, Tie Rone...........

"7. Thats because shit hole red states bring us down."

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:17 AM

11. What a load of horseshit.

If they are all so happy, why then are they consuming the most anti-depressants? Is their "happiness" chemically induced?

These are the countries that consume the most antidepressants:

Iceland
Australia
Portugal
Canada
Sweden
U.K.
Denmark
New Zealand
Belgium
Finland
Spain
Austria

I can tell you there is great societal pressure in the Scandinavia countries to tell everyone how happy you are, right up to the moment you’re sticking your head in the oven.

"Happiness" is such a subjective concept, that this "report" is all but meaningless with the notable exception of promoting the welfare state as a goal to achieve that happiness.

https://www.indy100.com/article/these-are-the-countries-that-consume-the-most-antidepressants--WJvJPf5WFx

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:27 AM

12. If you were ask well fed cattle in a feed-lot if they were happy they would say they were.

They get all the feed they need and don't have to work hard for it - just waddle to the feeder . And they get free healthcare - mind you a lot of them don't come back - but what the fuck, their content.........for now.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:43 PM

17. Because the UN is an authority on happiness.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:04 PM

24. Reading for comprehension?

You should try it sometime. The U.N. commissioned the study. The methodology and the data is provided by the Gallup Organization.
https://worldhappiness.report/

LOL at righty.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #24)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:39 PM

26. Try it yourself lefty, the word "authority" has a meaning.

Put simply just for you, it isn't the UNs PLACE to be discussing happiness.

Beyond that, who is the DUmbass who wrote "According to the United Nations" in the OP?

Maybe you should take issue with his accuracy, or perhaps even, his honesty.


ROFL@lefty


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Response to Nostrings (Reply #26)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:50 PM

30. Its the U.N.'s place to discuss whatever the U.N. choses to discuss.

The General Assembly of the United Nations votes on an agenda which covers what issues they take up.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #30)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:02 PM

31. If one ignores the purpose for which they were created, and supports straying miles from it...

Have you corrected the OP yet?

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #31)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:12 PM

32. One more time:

From the linked article:
"The survey, conducted by Gallup, uses a three-year rolling average of survey responses around six factors: GDP per capita; social support; life expectancy; freedom to make life choices; generosity; and corruption levels."

The U.N. has always been involved with the per capita Gross Domestic Product, social support systems, life expectancy, freedom of citizens to make life choices, charitable giving and corruption levels of nations since its founding.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #32)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:39 PM

33. And one more time for you:

"According to the United Nations"



"The U.N. has always been involved with the per capita Gross Domestic Product, social support systems, life expectancy, freedom of citizens to make life choices, charitable giving and corruption levels of nations since its founding."

Irrelevant trivia, like so much of what you say, and a lie too. The UN didn't start out doing all the things it does now, and it didn't have its fingers in all the pies you listed on day 1 (thats its founding, since you brought it up). Like I said, you should take it up with the OP, that poster has obvious and demonstrable honesty issues.



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Response to Nostrings (Reply #33)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:02 PM

37. Exhibit #1

The United Nations Emergency Children's Fund (UNICEF): founded on December 11, 1946. The United Nations began operations on October 24, 1945.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNICEF

Exhibit #2: Chapter 10 of the Charter of the United Nations, signed on June 25, 1945 authorized the establishment of the UN Economic and Social Council which is empowered to "make or initiate studies and reports with respect to international economic, social, cultural, educational, health, and related matters" and to make recommendations "promoting respect for, and observance of, human rights and fundamental freedoms for all."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapter_X_of_the_United_Nations_Charter

"Here's a little song I wrote
You might want to sing it note for note
Don't worry, be happy
In every life we have some trouble
But when you worry you make it double
Don't worry, be happy
Don't worry, be happy now"

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #37)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:10 PM

38. You said "since its founding." You didn't use the word 'almost'. Those are proof otherwise.

Have you been taking debate lessons from trevor?



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Response to Nostrings (Reply #38)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:14 PM

40. Is that the best you can do?

You said that collecting data on national economics and social issues was not the U.N.'s mission. However, just like the Constitution of the United States was ratified before the federal government began operating under it. The charter of the United Nations was ratified before the U.N. actually began its many (General Assembly, Security Council, Economic and Social Council, Trusteeship Council, the International Court of Justice and the Secretariat) diverse missions and responsibilities.
That means Chapter 10 of the U.N. charter was there from the beginning: "the UN Economic and Social Council makes or initiates studies and reports with respect to international economic, social, cultural, educational, health, and related matters" and makes recommendations "promoting respect for, and observance of, human rights and fundamental freedoms for all."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapter_X_of_the_United_Nations_Charter

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #40)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:54 PM

41. No need to do more than enough, you do most of my work for me.

"You said that collecting data on national economics and social issues was not the U.N.'s mission."

No, in fact I did not. Thats YOUR characterization of what I actually said.

Pretty sophomoric, by any reasonable standard, but quite typical for a leftist.

You do so much better when you post and run.


"The charter of the United Nations was ratified before the U.N. actually began its many (General Assembly, Security Council, Economic and Social Council, Trusteeship Council, the International Court of Justice and the Secretariat) diverse missions and responsibilities.
That means Chapter 10 of the U.N. charter was there from the beginning: "the UN Economic and Social Council makes or initiates studies and reports with respect to international economic, social, cultural, educational, health, and related matters" and makes recommendations "promoting respect for, and observance of, human rights and fundamental freedoms for all."

Yet more meaningless trivia.

Words mean things. You said "has always been involved with...since its founding", which is factually false, and you knew it was false before you hit the "post" button.

Choose yours more accurately, and more carefully, or get taken to task for not doing so.

Thats how this works.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #41)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 07:27 PM

46. Your post #33

"Irrelevant trivia, like so much of what you say, and a lie too. The UN didn't start out doing all the things it does now, and it didn't have its fingers in all the pies you listed on day 1 (thats its founding, since you brought it up). Like I said, you should take it up with the OP, that poster has obvious and demonstrable honesty issues."

Why yes, the U.N. DID indeed start out with an Economic and Social Council which "makes or initiates studies and reports with respect to international economic, social, cultural, educational, health, and related matters" and makes recommendations "promoting respect for, and observance of, human rights and fundamental freedoms for all." It was authorized in the UN's charter.
But don't worry, little fella, BE HAPPY!

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #46)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 07:41 PM

47. Key word: Doing.

Again, words have meanings.

I'm authorized to go outside and piss off my back deck. Because I'm authorized doesn't mean that I have ever done so, or even will do so. It means only that I am authorized to do so, nothing more, nothing less, just like the UN charter at its founding only authorized things - which is saying, not doing.

Again words have meanings

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #26)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 07:14 PM

44. shit, what episode was that when Kirk was slapping the shit out of himself.

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Response to PrescientWon. (Reply #44)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 07:17 PM

45. "Platos Stepchildren"

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #45)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 07:46 PM

48. ahhh yes... costarring one of the hottest Kirk Women ever...

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:01 PM

27. Many Americans......

.....are unhappy because they don’t get free stuff. Even more are unhappy because because rich people exist.

Those of us who are self reliant are very happy.

I’m more than okay with that.

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Response to HermantownHawk (Reply #27)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:46 PM

29. On the contrary

Americans get LOTS of free stuff. The American social safety net makes up about 9% of the federal budget and the states spend even more. Plus Social Security is 24% and Medicare, Medicaid, Child health and Obamacare subsidies make up another 26% of federal expenditures.
That's 59% without counting free education and food stamps (SNAP).

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #29)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:00 PM

34. Dem Presidential Candidates.....

.......and slackers would disagree with you.

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Response to HermantownHawk (Reply #34)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 04:04 PM

39. Some folks are never satisfied.

For example, in Hawaii there is a $19.88 per hour difference between what you can get on welfare from what a minimum wage job will pay.
Total welfare benefits package: $49,175
Pre-tax wage equivalent: $60,590
Hourly wage equivalent: $29.13
State hourly minimum wage for 2017: $9.25
"The biggest discrepancy between welfare and minimum-wage payouts is seen in Hawaii with an astonishing gap of $19.88. Not only do residents receive nearly $50,000 in welfare aid, the hourly equivalent is comparable to the national median salary of an electrical engineering technician. But it’s best to note that the high cost of living in this state could distort the data. Regardless, such a high discrepancy between working and welfare is pretty hard to dismiss."
https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/states-welfare-recipients-paid-more-minimum-wage.html/

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:15 PM

28. #CountriesBeSoWhite

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