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Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:37 AM

Most Americans think Chump was wagging the dog

"Most Americans think Trump's escalation of tensions with Iran was driven by his upcoming impeachment trial"

More Americans than not believe that President Donald Trump authorizing a strike on an Iranian commander was partly driven by his upcoming Senate impeachment trial, according to a new Insider poll.
The administration has offered only thinly-sourced and contradictory explanations as to why they decided to kill Soleimani at that particular moment.
Both the Wall Street Journal and The New York Times have reported further that Trump decided to order the strike curry favor with some GOP Senators ahead of his impeachment trial.
In all, 60% of respondents in Insider polling believed the timing of the strike was somehow connected to impeachment compared to 27.8% who did not think the timing of two events were linked.

More Americans than not believe that President Donald Trump authorizing a strike on an Iranian commander was partly driven by his upcoming Senate impeachment trial, according to a new Insider poll.

In the ten days since the US carried out a strike that killed top Iranian military official Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani near Baghdad International Airport, the administration has offered many thinly-sourced and contradictory explanations as to why they decided to kill Soleimani at that particular moment.

Both the Wall Street Journal and The New York Times have reported further that Trump decided to order a strike to curry favor with GOP Senators who favor a more hawkish, aggressive US stance towards Iran ahead of his impeachment trial in the Senate.

While Trump had adopted far more adversarial posturing towards Iran, including pulling out of the landmark Iran nuclear deal, the killing of a top military official is his administration's most significant escalation of tensions yet, setting off a conflict that put US forces and allies in danger.

With the administration's attempts at justifying the strike continuing to unravel more and more by the day, Americans now believe that Trump's decision to strike was at least possibly motivated by his upcoming impeachment trial.

Insider asked 1,063 respondents in SurveyMonkey Audience polling: "Shortly after President Trump was impeached by the House of Representatives, the administration escalated the conflict with Iran. This lead to sporadic armed conflict between the two nations. What best describes your view about these events?"

In all, 60% believed the timing of the strike was somehow connected to impeachment, including over a quarter of respondents who said the strike was "definitely" related to impeachment, compared to 27.8% who did not think the timing of two events were linked.

18.6% said they "didn't believe the timing was linked whatsoever."
9.2% said "the timing is probably not linked."
16.8% said "the timing is possibly linked."
16.7% said they thought "the timing is probably linked."
26.5% said they believed "the timing is definitely linked" between the events.
12.5% weren't sure.
Of respondents, 28% identified as slightly, moderately or very conservative, 40% identified as slightly, moderately, or very liberal, and the remainder declined to say or identified as neither.

SurveyMonkey Audience polls from a national sample balanced by census data of age and gender. Respondents are incentivized to complete surveys through charitable contributions. Generally speaking, digital polling tends to skew toward people with access to the internet. SurveyMonkey Audience doesn't try to weight its sample based on race or income. Total 1,093 respondents collected January 10-11, 2020, a margin of error plus or minus 3 percentage points with a 95% confidence level.
https://www.businessinsider.com/americans-think-iran-strike-was-linked-to-impeachment-poll-2020-1

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jh4freedom Jan 14 OP
batcat Jan 14 #1
Carl Jan 14 #2
Magyar Heidinn Jan 14 #3
Dumper Jan 14 #4
Muddling Through Jan 14 #5
bfox74 Jan 14 #6
kevlar Jan 14 #7
Steelydamned Jan 14 #8
New Deal Democrat Jan 14 #9
Carl Jan 14 #11
MeatSandwich Jan 14 #10
Qukid Jan 14 #12

Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:45 AM

1. Trump is not worried in the least about being removed from office. ...

I actually believe he would like a full blown trial in the Senate with plenty of witnesses. He could prove just how corrupt Ukraine was and the Democrats who were profiting from that corruption. He could also show how Ukraine was helping Hillary in 2016.

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 04:46 AM

2. Misleading title.

"Of respondents, 28% identified as slightly, moderately or very conservative, 40% identified as slightly, moderately, or very liberal, and the remainder declined to say or identified as neither."

Even with that when you add up the percentages it in no way indicates what you posted.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:20 AM

3. More slanted liberal dogma.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:30 AM

4. Most 'Americans' and 'more Americans than not,' are not the same things! Was

that intentional, or not, on your part?

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:30 AM

5. "SurveyMonkey".

What's wrong, Miss Cleo all booked up?



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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:33 AM

6. Another jh4 post, another lie.

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:34 AM

7. Just passing on todays propaganda and talking points.......

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:41 AM

8. Considering today's 24 hour news cycle....

...and constantly moving stories and media attention span, I'm not buying this at all.

The media will quickly move back to impeachment once it starts up again and ensure they provide the same slanted, subjective coverage they always do....regardless of whatever else is going on.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:52 AM

9. Must be why he didn't get a bump in the polls.

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Response to New Deal Democrat (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:18 PM

11. Did you even read the OP?

It does not say what the title states.

Not even close to it.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:14 PM

10. Except that he authorized this seven months ago.

I guess you get skewed polls when you ask skewed questions?

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 01:22 PM

12. The problem with the "wag the dog" accusation

is it necessarily concedes the popularity of the actions taken. While "wag the dog" may sound sinister, it really just says "Trump only did that because most people would agree with it."

So, you're on the wrong side of the issue and trying to blow smoke.

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