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Tue Jan 14, 2020, 01:53 PM

States that have expanded their Medicare coverage

Under Obamacare 36 states and Washington D.C. have expanded Medicare coverage. 14 states have chosen not to. https://wallethub.com/edu/uninsured-rates-by-state/4800/

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Reply States that have expanded their Medicare coverage (Original post)
jh4freedom Jan 14 OP
oldenuff35 Jan 14 #1
jh4freedom Jan 14 #2
GoldwatersSoul Jan 14 #9
Magyar Heidinn Jan 14 #3
jh4freedom Jan 14 #5
Magyar Heidinn Jan 14 #8
GoldwatersSoul Jan 14 #10
Valishin Jan 15 #11
Steelydamned Jan 15 #12
Carl Jan 14 #4
jh4freedom Jan 14 #6
Carl Jan 14 #7

Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:08 PM

1. No one has to wonder why people who work for a living move to Texas.

I bet the free money crowd fill every greyhound buss on the way out of texas.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:43 PM

2. Its interesting to me

that every congressional district in Texas save one, that straddles the Mexican border is represented by a Democrat. Will Hurd, the only Black Republican in the House, currently represents the 23rd congressional district. Representative Hurd has announced his retirement.
The border Democrats are Henry Cuellar (28th), Vincente Gonzales, (15th), Filemon Vela (34th) and Veronica Escobar-TX (16th).

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 06:37 PM

9. How does that surprise you???

Those are the poorest Texas counties. Democrats always pander to the poor, ignorant and immigrant.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:55 PM

3. States that have expanded communism.

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Response to Magyar Heidinn (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:52 PM

5. But the Preamble to the Constitution says

That one of the reasons we have a government of the people, by the people and for the people is to "promote the general welfare."
Assisting Americans in gaining access to healthcare certainly does promote the general welfare.
Let me give you an example: A Trump loving, MAGA hat wearing West Virginia coal miner has put thirty years in on the job but has developed Black Lung Disease and has to retire at age 50.
Should he and his family have to go bankrupt and sell their home to pay for treatment or should he just die, even though he has paid his income taxes every single year?

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 06:31 PM

8. Why should I fund his poor choices?

Promoting the general welfare is not extorting from those that matter.
He chose to work where he did and he chose not to invest in himself or his family, he can die without burdening myself, my family and people of substance.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 06:42 PM

10. The concept of general welfare...

Doesnt mean government largess...the Federalist papers explain this. If the General Welfare clause was meant the way you choose to interpret then the constitution means essentially nothing. No limitations on spending or government action whatsoever.

That is idiotic

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:05 PM

11. You missed the following four words

keep in mind that in every other reference in the Constitution the populace is referred to as the people, the states as the states, and the federal government as the United States. Now reread that line.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:23 PM

12. You're either just being a smartass....

...or you truly don't know how that clause was defined at the time it was written.

One of the earliest Dictionaries...., Websters 1828:

Welfare
WELFARE, noun

1. Exemption from misfortune, sickness, calamity or evil; the enjoyment of health and the common blessings of life; prosperity; happiness; applied to persons.

2. Exemption from any unusual evil or calamity; the enjoyment of peace and prosperity, or the ordinary blessings of society and civil government; applied to states.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 04:56 PM

4. We disagree on most things and know it is a typo at some point but it is

about Medicaid not Medicare as the title states.

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Response to Carl (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:59 PM

6. "Toward Seamless Coverage: Transitions to Medicare from Expansion Medicaid"

"The Affordable Care Act (ACA) gives states the option to expand their Medicaid programs, and 32 states including the District of Columbia have decided to do so. This expansion has extended Medicaid coverage to low-income adults aged 19-64 with incomes up to 138% of the federal poverty level (FPL), through what is referred to as the “Adult Group.”

Once Medicare-eligible, expansion Medicaid eligibility ends. An individual can transition—if their income and assets are low enough—to traditional Medicaid for the aged, blind, and disabled population (ABD Medicaid) or a Medicare Savings Program (MSP). Yet income and asset rules for Adult Group Medicaid are usually less stringent than for traditional Medicaid programs, so people newly eligible for Medicare may discover that they are not eligible for ABD Medicaid. This circumstance makes it especially important to ensure that any transitioning individual is screened for and enrolled in an MSP if they qualify."
(Excerpt)
https://www.ncoa.org/centerforbenefits/promising-practices/expansion-medicaid-medicare-transitions/

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 06:08 PM

7. Your title and the graphic don't match.

There was no expanded Medicare.

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