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Sat Feb 15, 2020, 12:16 AM

Portrait of a Cult

- Dishwashers and toilets
- Lock her up
- Enemy of the People
- We’re all family against the world
- We love this man
- Deep State
- His misspellings are all code
- Q, Q, Q

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Cold Warrior Saturday OP
RCW2014 Saturday #1
Bubba Saturday #6
foia Saturday #2
GoldwatersSoul Saturday #3
AmandaCMatthews Saturday #4
GoldwatersSoul Saturday #27
AmandaCMatthews Saturday #38
GoldwatersSoul Saturday #41
batcat Saturday #5
Dinkydow Saturday #11
batcat Saturday #29
Charlie Mike Saturday #7
Cold Warrior Saturday #8
Charlie Mike Saturday #9
Cold Warrior Saturday #10
Charlie Mike Saturday #12
Cold Warrior Saturday #13
Charlie Mike Saturday #15
Cold Warrior Saturday #20
Charlie Mike Saturday #22
Cold Warrior Saturday #28
Charlie Mike Saturday #30
Cold Warrior Saturday #31
Charlie Mike Saturday #33
Cold Warrior Saturday #34
Charlie Mike Saturday #35
Cold Warrior Saturday #36
Charlie Mike Saturday #37
D26-15 Saturday #39
Charlie Mike Saturday #40
Cold Warrior Sunday #44
Charlie Mike Sunday #48
Cold Warrior Sunday #49
Charlie Mike Sunday #50
Cold Warrior Sunday #51
Charlie Mike Sunday #52
Cold Warrior Sunday #53
Charlie Mike Sunday #54
JohnPoet Sunday #46
Charlie Mike Sunday #47
Da Mannn Saturday #14
Cold Warrior Saturday #16
bfox74 Saturday #18
Charlie Mike Saturday #23
bfox74 Saturday #17
Cold Warrior Saturday #21
Charlie Mike Saturday #24
bfox74 Saturday #26
Steelydamned Saturday #19
nolidad Saturday #25
Nostrings Saturday #32
Carl Saturday #42
opspec2c Saturday #43
Penelope Sunday #45

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Response to RCW2014 (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 03:21 AM

6. You Say That Like It's A Bad Thing. N/T

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 12:41 AM

2. If some are cult members then so be it

I'm not voting for Trump for any of the reasons you listed. I'm voting for him for:

Economic policies that promote US business
Record low unemployment
His America first approach (which is the JOB of any president)
Renegotiated trade deals to make trade more fair for the US
Nominates judges who follow The Constitution
Protects US sovereignty by following immigration laws
Supports 2A

(I voted to leave the OP on the alert)

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 01:07 AM

3. Cult of personality....

Fairly normal with political leaders....

Or did you want to believe that liberals are free from that shit?

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Response to GoldwatersSoul (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 01:17 AM

4. There are some on the left who foolishly believe

Obama gave a fuck about them and theirs, that the lying shit was a decent human being (Tuesday kills lists says otherwise), and that he was a fucking ‘liberal’. Bonuses for Wall Street but austerity for the rest of us.

Now that’s some cult-like delusional thinking IMO.

YMMV.


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Response to AmandaCMatthews (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 09:57 AM

27. I will wait...

Until people start teaching Trump songs to schoolkids.

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Response to GoldwatersSoul (Reply #27)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 05:27 PM

38. Oh FFS.

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Response to AmandaCMatthews (Reply #38)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 07:22 PM

41. I have favorite president

To the tune of Oscar Mayer Weiner

I have a favorite president
His name is Donny Trump.
I have a favorite president
Hillary he Thumped

Donny has a special way. With
Ruining the democrats daaaayyyy

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 02:03 AM

5. I am better off now than I was three years ago. ...

Trump has been able to deliver on many of his campaign promises despite the fact that the Democrats tried their best to ruin his presidency and the Republican “never Trumpers” triedt to help the Democrats.

The Democrats seem to be pushing socialism as a solution to the problems in our nation that Trump is making great headway in overcoming. Truly socialist countries usually end up with shortages like a lack of toilet paper and I definitely don’t want to run out of toilet paper. That means I have no interest in voting for a socialist or even a democratic socialist.

An economist just explained Venezuela's chronic shortage of toilet paper
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-venezuela-is-running-out-of-toilet-paper-2015-11

Then we have Mike Bloomberg the billionaire who plans to buy the presidency. He hates civilian owned firearms and Big Gulps and wants to tell me how to live my life. (I don’t need a nanny president and I don’t trust my government enough to give up my firearms.) MIke also seems to believe the solution to crime is to have the cops throw minorities up against the wall and frisk them. (I may be white but I don’t want to see the cops throwing anybody up against a wall unless they have a damn good reason. Bloomberg sound like a racist to me).

So I think I will stay a Deplorable and vote for Trump. If that makes me appear to be part of a cult so be it. I really don’t give a shit about what liberals think of me. In fact I find being called a Deplorable a complement.

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Response to batcat (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 07:19 AM

11. That's OK

The shortage of toilet paper will be counter-balanced by the shortage of food.

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Response to Dinkydow (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 10:05 AM

29. Good point. (n/t)

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 05:28 AM

7. You are everything you profess to hate.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 05:52 AM

8. In keeping with the intellectual level of the conversation

I’m rubber, you’re glue...

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 06:24 AM

9. It wasn't a jab. It was a dispassionate observation.

You have no point to your hatred of Trump other than he is upending system that has fed you for no good reason.

You are not here to liberate anyone out of some sort of altruistic impulse. On every other day you take smug pride in denigrating your audience as provincial. You wouldn't spend 5 minutes with the people you are addressing. You just want to act superior.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 07:06 AM

10. Given your recent exercises in invective, I doubt that. But, I'll play

Given that I have spent 75%+ of the last 30 years outside of the States, I am unsure as to what system has “fed” me. But hey!

In actual fact, it’s not Dumpie who really amazes me. He’s simply a thin skinned, amoral child whose daddy gave him a bag of money but nothing else. He is predictable. It was obvious after the Senate’s vote to acquit, he would move Vindman and Sondland out. No surprise. Also no surprise with his interference through his toady “4 Page” Billy in the Stone and Flynn trials. He honestly believes that Article Two gives him the ability to do whatever he wants. This was reinforced by Dershowitz who argued that a president can do whatever he needs to to get re-elected as long as he believes his re-election is in the best interests of the country.

What is more troubling is the willingness of his cult followers to overlook any of Dumpie’s attacks on the fundamentals of our republic — separation of powers, checks and balances — since “they got theirs.” Note that is the theme of many of the replies in this thread — “I got mine so I don’t give a shit about Dumpie’s assaults on the institutions of our democracy.”

So no, I have never claimed to be altruistic. You are incorrect, however, when you say I would not socialise with anyone here. I can count at least five posters who are able to carry on rational discussion and with whom I would happily have a drink. However, you are correct in the sense that the vast majority of posters here are incapable of reasoned discussion and simply resort to insults, deflections, and alerts. Note this thread was alerted upon.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 07:25 AM

12. Do you think you're allowed to flounce around with your stock in trade, unmerited arrogance and

not consider that a breach of the decorum you hippo-critically appeal to?

If you don't want to be insulted don't act like a smarmy ass. It's not like you have a reason to be full of yourself.

What breach of separation of power? The one where Schiff subpoenas administration officials even though the full House never authorized his committee? Or the separation of power where the administration challenges the subpoenas in court but instead of waiting for a court decision, the House votes for impeachment?

I don't see you complaining about those breaches against the separate branches of the Executive and Judiciary at the expense of the standing Rules of the House.

How about the House making demands on the wholly separate Senate?

Of course, your complaints are nonsense. Your unfounded hatred of Trump long predates coupeachment. Trump is sticking it to the globalist Establishment, which includes your beloved EUnichs.

And, yes, you do spend 75% of your time outside of the US, which underscores the pointlessness of your hatred. Nothing Trump does in the US is a negative for the nation (a nation you despise) - for you, even less so.

Or is that your problem? You hate America. You incessantly deride Americans. Trump is strengthening America and its people are happy and prospering.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #12)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 08:24 AM

13. There you go again, CM



Note that I rarely, if ever, hurl insults at individual posters. For example, last evening, you called me a “liar” at least twice while simultaneously making “contradictory” statements. You claimed that jury instructions told jurors to “avoid the media” while they clearly indicated to “avoid the media reporting of the particular trial” upon which they were judging. These are clearly not synonymous statements yet you persisted in arguing both, knowing they were not the same. Yet despite your invective, never once did I call you a “liar.”

When I discuss religion, I refrain from attacking the individual. My personal opinion is that those who believe in such superstitions are either in denial (the majority) or ignorant of reality. Yet, even when our most ardent Creationist Colleague repeated lobs ad hominem at me, I do not respond. This is what is meant by reasoned discussion — attack the idea, not the individual.

As a close, I would ask:

Can music save your mortal soul?
Can you teach me to flounce real slow?


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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 08:36 AM

15. Everyone sees you as a condescending boob.

Calling you a liar when you are obviously lying is not an insult. It's calling you out for lying.

Don't like it? Don't lie.

Juries are instructed to avoid newspapers and TV news. The jury instructions I posted - to which you cannot counter with anything but hand waving - show that juror violated her instructions. But you don't care about laws because Trump.

When you attack religion you make up faith based edicts and demand others follow them.

But, of course, you're just lying about how you don't cast personal insults when you post your (obsessively creepy) Tubby's clubhouse pic, make your stupid Paducah quilting museum jabs, etc.

If you try to act as if those are not intended as insults directed at people you are a liar.

If you want to be treated with respect - earn it.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 09:05 AM

20. Here is the jury instruction you provided

Because you will receive all the evidence and legal instruction you properly may consider to return a verdict: do not read, watch, or listen to any news or media accounts or commentary about the case or anything to do with it; do not do any research, such as consulting dictionaries, searching the Internet or using other reference materials; and do not make any investigation or in any other way try to learn about the case on your own. Do not visit or view any placebdiscussed in this case, and do not use Internet programs or other devices to search for or view any place discussed during the trial. Also, do not do any research about this case, the law, or the people involved—including the parties, the witnesses or the lawyers—until you have been excused as jurors. If you happen to read or hear anything touching on this case in the media, turn away and report it to me as soon as possible.

Please show me where it says to avoid the media. It clearly says the media as related to the particular case. It is not a blanket injunction to avoid the media.

Science is evidenced based, not faith based. If, for example, one thinks that the Grand Canyon was formed during Noah’s Flood, science can demonstrate why that is impossible.

Tubby’s Clubhouse refers to a website, not an individual. Paducah refers to a provincial world view best expressed in a quote by George Bernard Shaw:

“He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.”
― George Bernard Shaw, Caesar and Cleopatra

Still no attacks on individuals.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 09:16 AM

22. She was reading politico. It's established she's a prolific political news follower.

You're lying if you claim she didn't bring bias to the verdict.

The jury instructions are more than adequate to cover her offense. But you are a hypocrite who doesn't really care about the law; you just want to take down the leader of a nation you reject.




"Science is evidenced based, not faith based. If, for example, one thinks that the Grand Canyon was formed during Noah’s Flood, science can demonstrate why that is impossible."

More lies. This time through a strawman. You claim rejection of gheys is based on ignorance since abolished by "civilization."

First, rejection of gays is - in a Darwinist world - a reject of an unfit trait.

Second, plenty of civilizations reject homosexuality.

Third, you went on to appeal to pure fantasy about some technocratic form of reproduction so that people could - and this is some faith-based shit here - indulge in the "true meaning" of sex:

"Besides, how much longer do you thing sex will be the sole method, or perhaps the primary method of procreation? At that point, we can just focus on the true meaning of sex — fun."



"Tubby’s Clubhouse refers to a website, not an individual"

Liar. You're attacking the people at the website.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #22)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 09:59 AM

28. Such hostility CM

First you argued that the two statements are the same. They are not. I have never commented on her political bias which is a wholly different matter than what we are discussing. And no, that is not enough to confirm she violated the jury instructions. To do that, one would have to PROVE she read articles about the case. This could clearly be done but simply assuming she did is not enough. There will be no mistrial on this basis.

I never made a scientific argument about gays (see, I can say the word with slurs) but rather a sociological one based on meritocracy. An individual’s ability to perform tasks well or poorly is not influenced by their sexuality. As to the Darwinian “argument” it applies to species survival, not individual performance in a specific area. I simply pointed out that the human race is in little danger of extinction due to homosexuality. As to the argument that many societies reject homosexuality, I would advise you to look at the maturity of those societies. I would also note that slavery is still legal in a large number of countries.

Sorry, Tubby’s Clubhouse still refers to a website. It’s not my problem if you choose to assign some sort of personal approbation to my nickname for a website dedicated to an obsession with another site.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #28)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 11:19 AM

30. No hostility. Just calling you out for what you are.

If you don't like it, stop being that way.

The juror is biased.


"I never made a scientific argument about gays..."

I never said you did. You make faith based arguments about gays.



"I simply pointed out that the human race is in little danger of extinction due to homosexuality."

Liar. You made no such argument in the thread to me or anyone else.


"I would advise you to look at the maturity of those societies."

Maturity is just another one of your make believe fairy tales. There's no objective standard for it. Even secular societies such as the USSR have persecuted gays. Disney scrubs scenes from movies to appease the atheist chicoms.

I think it's stupid but it's just as stupid as you appealing to standards that don't exist and you can't cite.


DU is a retard asylum. Of course, I'm referring to the website, not the members.

That's how ridiculous you sound.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #30)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 11:42 AM

31. Your hatred of those different than you shines through with every statement you make, CM

Look at your choice of words for posters at DU. “Retards.” Nice.

We were not discussing whether or not the juror was biased. We were discussing whether or not jurors must avoid all media. Clearly, based upon YOUR citation of jury instructions, that is a lie.

Given that your ilk estimates the homosexual population as a very small percentage of the population (when it suits them), I would think it obvious. But hey.

Are you suggesting the US emulate Russia? Good one, CM. Do you share Dumpie’s admiration of Puti-Put? Seems to me we should be emulating first world democracies. But hey, you go with your Russia idea.

I am not sure what Disney and the Chinese Communists have to do with the discussion. Saudi employs a whole pile of people to go through magazines and tear out the bra ads. Should we emulate them? After all, MBS is another of Dumpie’s buds.

Again, nice usage of the word “retard.” You gotta a lot of hate bottled up there CM.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #31)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 01:45 PM

33. It's not about your difference. I'm proud to be nothing like you.

"Look at your choice of words for posters at DU. 'Retards.' Nice."

But it's not about the members, just the website. It’s not my problem if you choose to assign some sort of personal approbation to my nickname for a website.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #33)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 01:58 PM

34. Not a difference with me. You hate everyone different than you

For example, I am not gay, but I don’t hate gays (Gheys, as you say) as do you. I don’t agree with most of what I hear from DU posters, but I don’t call them “retards” as do you. I have repeatedly demonstrated your assertions to be false, but I don’t call you a “liar,” as do you.

You got a lotta hate there, CM!

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #34)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 02:21 PM

35. I don't hate gays. I've said nothing against gays.

I've only attacked your fairy tales about ignorance, civilization, the true meaning of sex, and now maturity of society.



"I don’t call them “retards” as do you."

Are your fee fees hurt? Go cry to mommy. I was talking about a website, not the members.


I have no hate. I enjoy being better than you.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #35)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 02:38 PM

36. Yet you call them gheys and support discrimination against them

Yet you call them “retards” and laugh at them.
Yet you call them “liars” and blatantly misrepresent the truth.

It has nothing to do with me, with being “better” than me which you seem so desperately want to show. It is about the hatred you have bottled up for those who are different than you, have different ideas than you, have a different vision than you.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #36)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 04:59 PM

37. Aw, poor you. Your phoney worldview can't hold up so you resort to lying.

I never supported discrimination against gays. I challenged your fairy tales about "ignorance."

I never called gays retards. I referred to the DU website.

I never called gays liars. I called you a liar because you are - as you have so clearly demonstrated with your sad little effort here.

Maybe you should pay someone to believe your ridiculousness. Meanwhile, the rest of us will continue to point and laugh at you.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #37)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 05:30 PM

39. Alerted as a personal attack.

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Response to D26-15 (Reply #39)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 06:27 PM

40. It's impossible to regard these unmanly specimens with anything but contempt.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #37)

Sun Feb 16, 2020, 01:31 AM

44. There is a literary device called parallelism CM

in which phrases of similar syntactic structure are repeated, at times expressing multiple ideas, to tie those ideas together as a whole. The first three sentences of my post are such, each referring to a slightly different aspect of the hate you have bottled up — your hatred of gays, your easy usage of terms like “retard” for those who do not share your views, and your resort to projective invective. By using parallelism, I show how each one of these attitudes individually and holistically sums up your hatred for “the other.”

As to you not wanting to discriminate against gays, well. You use pejorative terms to identify them (“gheys”). You invoke Russia which just indicated there would be no gay marriage in their laws. You have expressed the desire to overturn Obergefell. You indicate in you feel that homosexuality is a Darwinian, dead end confusing species survival and individual choice. You agreed with the woman in Iowa that it is appropriate not to vote for someone simply because he/she is gay. But no, you don’t support discrimination against gays! Oh, you are a hoot, CM.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #44)

Sun Feb 16, 2020, 05:03 AM

48. Look at you. Still lying in a futile effort to crawl out from under your BS. I won.

"You invoke Russia which just indicated there would be no gay marriage in their laws."

I invoked the USSR because they're atheists like you.

There's nothing wrong with the word retard. I copied and pasted your own words about describing a website.


"You indicate in you feel that homosexuality is a Darwinian, dead end confusing species survival and individual choice. "

I demonstrated that atheistic reasons existed. Citing an argument is not the same as endorsing the argument. It's called playing devil's advocate.


"You agreed with the woman in Iowa that it is appropriate not to vote for someone simply because he/she is gay."

Liar. I called out your fairy tale about ignorance.

The most telling part about how I won and you lost: I quote, you bloat. 🤗

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #48)

Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:03 AM

49. Anyone who has to repeatedly say

“I won” and “I am better than you” almost certainly did not and is not.



BTW, you seem to have some outdated notions about atheism and religion. Russia is returning rapidly to the Orthodox Church and many, many Christians accept the reality of evolution. See, for example, the website BioLogos. It”s primarily the Creationist nutjobz who deny evolution.

As to my reference to Tubby’s I did not characterize them in any way other than saying they are obsessed with DU, a fact easily verifiable by looking at their post distribution. That is hardly the same as characterizing them as “retards.”

Poor Chuckie. So desperate to win. So desperate to be better than somebody.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #49)

Sun Feb 16, 2020, 06:38 AM

50. How come you keep changing USSR to Russia?

Do you deny the USSR existed?

Do you deny it was a self declared atheistic state?

Do you deny they persecuted homosexuals?

Why are you ignoring atheist China and its closeting/persecuting homosexuals?

If you have to scurry away from facts that everyone knows it's safe to say you lost.

Therefore I won. 🤗



But you are, if nothing else, predictable. I once again lifted your mode of argument and threw back in your face just to watch you disavow it.

“'I won' and 'I am better than you' almost certainly did not and is not," said the rube running around declaring, "FAIL"

You're never not hilarious. 😁



How does some kid's comic no one ever heard - and with which you have an unsettling familiarity - convey obsession with DU?

You're literally that guy at a social gathering who makes the rounds of the room telling a joke that flops only to keep going around telling the exact same joke to the exact same people and laughing about it all by himself.

Everyone else is like, "What the fuck is wrong with that guy?" 🤔

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #50)

Sun Feb 16, 2020, 07:14 AM

51. I am not sure what you are attempting to prove with your atheistic states have persecuted gays

theme. Of course, Christian states, Muslim states, Hindu states, and “atheistic” states have persecuted homosexuals. And? What on earth is that supposed to prove? Christian states, Muslim states, Hindu states, and atheistic states have had legal slavery. Many, but by no means all, have progressed past that stage in their development. What are you trying to prove with this factoid?

I had assumed you were speaking of Russia for a couple of reasons. First, just this past week, your God-Emperor’s BFF announced there will be no same-sex marriage in Russia. That ties into conservatives’ attitude regarding Obergefell here. Second, I could not (and still cannot) fathom what possible relevance the fact that “atheistic” states have persecuted gays has to the discussion.

As to Tubby’s, and my use of the term, it’s simply a repeatable tag line to identify the site. You know, sort of like “Skin’s Island” and “primitives” with which you seem to have no problem. Yet, “Tubby”s Clubhouse” is a more recognizable reference to far more Americans.

Since you chose to caricature me, allow me the opportunity to do the same for you. You are the perfect conservative image of a DU poster who recounts the tale of how he triumphed over a conservative (liberal) with whom he got into a political argument in line at the grocery checkout.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #51)

Sun Feb 16, 2020, 07:39 AM

52. So yummy

"Of course, Christian states, Muslim states, Hindu states, and 'atheistic' states have persecuted homosexuals. And?"

If it's a (near-)universal trait perhaps it's not "bigotry" but an evolutionary culling reflex. Male peacocks flourish. Female humans put on makeup. Chickens peck the sick and injured. Hamsters eat their young. Species cull the unfit for propagation.

Once upon a time the Left was all agog over gay penguins. But that last about as long as 1 penguin generation.

If you want to say, "I don't think it ought to be that way," fine. But have the intellectual honesty to admit it's your personal opinion, not a mandate of some non existent higher knowledge or maturity or what the fuck ever fairy tale you will pull out of your butt next.

If you really want to protect gays offer them weapons safety and marksmanship classes - like I do.



"What are you trying to prove with this factoid?"

That your appeals to some higher knowledge (the inverse of ignorance) is specious and unfounded - a fairy tale, as I keep plainly stating. Why is it so difficult for you to read plain English? I've only said it to you every time.



"I had assumed you were speaking of Russia for a couple of reasons."

I kept writing "USSR." Everything beyond that is your error.



"As to Tubby’s, and my use of the term, it’s simply a repeatable tag line to identify the site."

Yeah. We know. You're that guy at the party telling the same failed joke over and over and over again.

I took your lame excuse and threw it back at you even going so far as to copy and paste your own words.




"You are the perfect conservative image of a DU poster who recounts the tale of how he triumphed over a conservative (liberal) with whom he got into a political argument in line at the grocery checkout."

Lefty makes up what he thinks righty says.

I copy and paste your own words.

Exit Observation: if - by your reckoning - tracking the bullshit that dribbles out of DU makes someone obsessive, your familiarity with grocery store checkout line stories says a lot about you. 🧐

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #52)

Sun Feb 16, 2020, 08:23 AM

53. Your quaint view of social Darwinism is amusing, but flawed

First, just to get it out of the way, there are numerous examples of animals in the wild, not just penguins, exhibiting both bisexual and homosexual behaviour. If you need a reference for that, here’s the top one from google.

Are there any homosexual animals?

Some of your examples, however, are telling in that you clearly still (we’ve had this conversation before) don’t understand the concept of civilisation. Civilised people do not abandon their sick or injured, their young or elderly because humans are social animals. And that one trait has enabled us to evolve to a place where we dominate the planet.

When I say mature societies, I mean those that have moved beyond the old tribal fears of the ”other,” although this is a work-in-progress for all humans. You know, these are the western nations in which democracy has evolved as well — Britain, France, the US. Given your frequent references as examples you would seem to want us to emulate the former USSR or China in our attitudes towards our fellow citizens. What about Uganda?

As to your assertion that you simply copied and pasted my words in regards to Tubby’s/DU, well that’s laughable. You did add the pejorative “retard asylum” to what I said. That is like me copying something innocuous that you write, adding the words “f**kin s**thead,” and then claiming I just echoed what you said.



As to me knowing a typical DU story, I posted at a site that has a “Best/Worst” forum for several years. While it was never my favourite, I certainly was not oblivious to it. After all, a lot of the Andy Stephenson persecution was reported there.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #53)

Sun Feb 16, 2020, 08:56 AM

54. I didn't say there weren't any other examples of homosexuality in the animal world.

I said there are no exclusively gay populations.

Why is plain English so hard for you? Are you intellectually handicapped or is it just your ethics?



"Civilised people do not abandon their sick or injured,"

I'm a career medic and volunteer EMT. I know more about the sick and injured than you ever will and, unlike you, I've actually done something about it

But you're still just magically conjuring rules


"Given your frequent references as examples you would seem to want us to emulate the former USSR or China "

Given the consistency of my plainly stated arguments, that just you being dumb or dishonest. Though, to your credit, I'm prepared to accept both.



"When I say mature societies, I mean..."

What you mean is meaningless. As meaningless as pointing to vanilla ice cream sitting beside chocolate ice cream and declaring one ignorant and the other mature.




"You did add the pejorative 'retard asylum' to what I said."

I added nothing. I kept the structure, changing only subject and location.

Thank you for admitting you're using a pejorative.




"As to me knowing a typical DU story, I posted at a site that has a “Best/Worst” forum for several years"

Thanks for the IP

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #15)

Sun Feb 16, 2020, 01:57 AM

46. Charlie, you don't speak for "everyone"--

in fact, you hardly speak for ANYONE here other than yourself-- so please cease and desist from your pronouncements about what "everyone" sees or thinks or knows or believes....

We are all individuals here with our own thoughts and judgments...
(I'll toss you a bone and admit that this even applies to the Conservatives on this board...)



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Response to JohnPoet (Reply #46)

Sun Feb 16, 2020, 04:54 AM

47. No, really. He's held in pretty low regard.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 08:35 AM

14. This must be the new talking point. "Cult" is the new deplorables.

Cult is the new way to demean people who don't want to vote for gun-grabber socialists.
Translation of the OP: "Vote for us or we will call you names."

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 08:49 AM

16. I think we would all defer to Dumpie in the

“vote for us or we will call you names” contest.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 08:57 AM

18. Yep, hes the master! And therefore...?

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 09:23 AM

23. You mean names like racist, sexist, homophobe, transphobe, bigot, greedy, fascist, dictator, or

cultist?

Those kinds of names?

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 08:56 AM

17. The so-called cult is made up of the 60% of Americans

who say they are better off now than they were 4 years ago.

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #17)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 09:08 AM

21. I hope you are not saying that translates into 60% approval of Dumpie

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #21)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 09:23 AM

24. North of 50.

Which is better than Obama at the respective pint in their presidencies.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #21)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 09:53 AM

26. Duh...



No candidate will ever get over 55% in the current climate. I’m confident Trump will win the meaningless popular vote, however.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 09:03 AM

19. I think you're just trolling but....

.....there has never been, in my lifetime, a President who inspired such slavish devotion and fawning admiration, as Barack Obama.

Damn near every article was a puff piece on how cool or wonderful he was. He was pictured dozens of times with the photog deliberately framing a light behind his head to give the appearance of and ethereal glow.

Children sang creepy praises to him in schools.

He was the People Magazine President. Tiger Beat with a nice tie.

But yeah....cult.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 09:46 AM

25. Cold Warrior should worry more about Obama!





The left- following Alinsky's rule

What you are guilty of- blame your opponent of often!

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 12:13 PM

32. Musings from a member of the cult of globalism.

*yawn*

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 09:46 PM

42. Good job making a fool of yourself,look at me,post again.

Keep swinging for the fence.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sat Feb 15, 2020, 10:30 PM

43. Cults don't have that much fun.

They're usually more zombiefied:

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sun Feb 16, 2020, 01:41 AM

45. Barack Hussein Obama...mmm....mmm....mmm...

I remember the indoctrination.

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