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Tue May 19, 2020, 02:14 PM

Should we vote by mail in November?

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Reply Should we vote by mail in November? (Original post)
jh4freedom May 19 OP
Charlie Mike May 19 #1
Da Mannn May 19 #2
jh4freedom May 19 #10
Da Mannn May 19 #11
jh4freedom May 19 #13
Da Mannn May 19 #14
kevlar May 20 #31
Iron Condor May 19 #3
Troll2 May 19 #4
jh4freedom May 19 #5
MeatSandwich May 19 #6
jh4freedom May 19 #8
MeatSandwich May 19 #16
jh4freedom May 20 #20
MeatSandwich May 20 #23
kevlar May 22 #44
JohnPoet May 21 #36
MeatSandwich May 22 #40
JohnPoet May 22 #49
MeatSandwich May 23 #51
Dumper May 20 #27
JaimeBondoJr May 19 #7
jh4freedom May 19 #9
Ohio Joe May 19 #12
MeatSandwich May 19 #17
Ohio Joe May 19 #18
MeatSandwich May 20 #24
Ohio Joe May 20 #29
MeatSandwich May 21 #35
Ohio Joe May 21 #37
MeatSandwich May 22 #39
Ohio Joe May 22 #42
kevlar May 22 #45
MeatSandwich May 23 #50
MeatSandwich May 21 #34
rahtruelies May 19 #15
bfox74 May 19 #19
Valishin May 20 #21
PrescientWon. May 20 #22
MeatSandwich May 20 #25
Daves Not Here Man May 20 #28
Dumper May 20 #26
Letmypeoplevote May 20 #30
kevlar May 20 #32
jh4freedom May 22 #41
kevlar May 22 #43
Steelydamned May 20 #33
LavenderGirl May 22 #38
Currentsitguy May 22 #46
jh4freedom May 22 #47
Currentsitguy May 22 #48

Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2020, 02:21 PM

1. Yes.

And all democrat ballots should be forwarded to the nearest Venezuelan consulate.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2020, 02:28 PM

2. You know a poll is not worth crap whenever J4 posts it.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #2)

Tue May 19, 2020, 04:05 PM

10. Tell it to the Gallup Organization

its their poll! And they've been in the public opinion polling business for 85 years now.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #10)

Tue May 19, 2020, 05:58 PM

11. Nah, you seem obsessed with hillary polling. Its on you.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #11)

Tue May 19, 2020, 06:25 PM

13. Typical conservative...living four years in the past.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #13)

Tue May 19, 2020, 06:29 PM

14. Typical Lefty...living on pretend polling to prop up your life.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #10)

Wed May 20, 2020, 12:52 PM

31. It's poor propaganda.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2020, 02:34 PM

3. .......

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2020, 02:38 PM

4. All you have to do is apply for a mail-in ballot with the country clerk.

Anyone who wants to can apply.

The application has a check box for "this and all future elections" if you wan't to make it permanent.

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Response to Troll2 (Reply #4)

Tue May 19, 2020, 03:01 PM

5. Depends on what state you live in.

For example, in Texas the Absentee Ballot Age Restriction prohibits any voter under the age of 65 from requesting and casting their ballot by mail in the state’s elections, “unless they will be absent from the county where they are registered to vote for the entirety of Election Day, are confined in jail but otherwise eligible to vote, have a sickness or physical condition preventing them from appearing to vote in person … or are expected or likely confined for childbirth.”

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Response to Troll2 (Reply #4)

Tue May 19, 2020, 03:01 PM

6. That's different than mailing a ballot to every registered voter.

Just begging for fraud in that case.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #6)

Tue May 19, 2020, 03:57 PM

8. Five states have been conducting ALL voting by mail for years now

The very Republican state of Utah (2013), plus Washington (1983), Oregon (1996), Hawaii (2019) and the very purple state of Colorado (2013). There have been no reports of an uptick of voter fraud.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #8)

Tue May 19, 2020, 09:53 PM

16. Yes, and there has been fraud in each.

Give it a rest. I will NEVER be convinced.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #16)

Wed May 20, 2020, 01:18 AM

20. Who cares what you are convinced of?

There is some minor individual fraud in every election. What there isn't is massive systemic fraud. President Trump commissioned a national vote/election fraud investigation in 2017. Vice President Pence chaired it. The Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity met from May 11, 2017 until January 3, 2018. They uncovered no massive systemic voter/election fraud and then President Trump disbanded them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Advisory_Commission_on_Election_Integrity

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #20)

Wed May 20, 2020, 11:38 AM

23. You are just parroting left wing talking points.

If there were 65 seat belt tickets last year, but 300 this year, does that mean more people weren't wearing belts, or the enforcement went up? If the blue state governors were interested in enforcement, the cases of fraud would go way up. But they refuse to look.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #20)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:01 PM

44. You are a liar.

They were not permitted to look.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #16)

Thu May 21, 2020, 04:04 AM

36. PROOF? Of course, there is none--

The ONLY voting fraud I know about was committed by Republicans in North Carolina, and that one is documented...

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Response to JohnPoet (Reply #36)

Fri May 22, 2020, 05:28 PM

40. Again, without sufficiceint enforcement, which the Dem states have no interest in, the numbers will

be low. As with seat belt enforcement, the numbers always look good until the law is enforced. But you on the far left already know this. Vote by FRAUD is never going to pass muster. Live with it.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #40)

Fri May 22, 2020, 11:54 PM

49. You guys aren't in charge in my state.

Live with THAT.

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Response to JohnPoet (Reply #49)

Sat May 23, 2020, 04:16 AM

51. I couldn't care less, John.

National cheat by mail is dead on arrival.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #8)

Wed May 20, 2020, 11:54 AM

27. And the minority should control the rest? Right?

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2020, 03:12 PM

7. Yes. It's the only way I can vote for Pelosi's opponent 6 times.

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Response to JaimeBondoJr (Reply #7)

Tue May 19, 2020, 04:02 PM

9. Enjoy!

Nancy has proven difficult to defeat in California's 12th Congressional District. She's been reelected 16 times.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2020, 06:03 PM

12. I've been doing it since I came to Colorado...

It works very nicely.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #12)

Tue May 19, 2020, 09:55 PM

17. It works nicely if you like fraud.

Up to 38 million ballots have gone missing in the last two federal elections. Nothing to see here.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #17)

Tue May 19, 2020, 11:16 PM

18. We have a very nice tracking system...

The only ballots that go 'missing' are ones not returned.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #18)

Wed May 20, 2020, 11:40 AM

24. Bullshit.

Up to 38 million went missing from the post office and other areas. Your left wing talking points are a fail.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #24)

Wed May 20, 2020, 12:39 PM

29. Should be easy for you to prove then...

Lets see the 38 million people who sent in a vote but it never got there.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #29)

Thu May 21, 2020, 01:58 AM

35. Many articles on it. Do a quick Google

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #35)

Thu May 21, 2020, 11:01 AM

37. Ahhh... The CT is 28, not 38 million....

That is the first thing a quick search showed... Explains why you declined to show any evidence. And as expected, not a shred of evidence any ballots have gone 'missing'. Rather it revolves around three states that send ballots to everyone and 28 million did not return them over several elections. Not a single case of someone who sent it in and it was not counted.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #37)

Fri May 22, 2020, 05:25 PM

39. Enough already. You've proved time an again that you are just a troll.

It's impossible to prove a negative.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #39)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:16 PM

42. Sure you can...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/believing-bull/201109/you-can-prove-negative

The simple fact is, you are making a claim you can't back up. There is simply no evidence to support it.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #42)

Fri May 22, 2020, 09:03 PM

45. The simple fact is

leftists only like democracy when they win.

If they don't think they can win, they cheat.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #42)

Sat May 23, 2020, 04:14 AM

50. Whatever you say, troll.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #18)

Thu May 21, 2020, 01:57 AM

34. You bet. Right next door to you.

February, PILF filed a lawsuit against Allegheny County — which includes the city of Pittsburgh and its surrounding suburbs — for having about 1,600 dead people on its voter rolls, close t0 7,500 voter registrations that have been flagged as duplicates, 1,523 registered voters who claim to be 100-years-old and over, and 1,178 registered voters who are missing dates of birth.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2020, 06:50 PM

15. DANGEROUS FAKE NEWS

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2020, 11:23 PM

19. No, but it should be an option, and requiring a witness signature.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Wed May 20, 2020, 02:14 AM

21. Voting by mail

for those who are physically able to vote in person is a bad idea. A major part of what makes our system so good is the hidden ballot. Vote by mail allows for vote harvesting which is a means of pressuring people to vote the way you want them to instead making your pitch and leaving the decision up to them. Vote harvesting should absolutely be illegal. You want to go door to door to campaign then knock yourself out. But at the end of the process, the final decision needs to be absolutely private with no option of pressure or involvement in the decision process of voting coming from anyone else. In addition vote harvesting is an attempt to get votes from people who otherwise didn't care enough to engage in the process. If they don't care to get informed and go out and vote on the own then we should not be encouraging them to vote until they decide to care enough to do those things.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Wed May 20, 2020, 02:41 AM

22. old folks and the handicapped, yes

Regular people get off their ass and go stand in line to vote.

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Response to PrescientWon. (Reply #22)

Wed May 20, 2020, 11:43 AM

25. Absolutely

The only time I voted absentee was when I was in the Navy and couldn't physically be there in person. Mail in voting is just a left wing excuse for more fraud. Period.

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Response to PrescientWon. (Reply #22)

Wed May 20, 2020, 12:12 PM

28. Nah.

I don't wanna.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Wed May 20, 2020, 11:51 AM

26. Duh, poll should have asked if they wanted it allowed in ALL cases, even when a person

would prefer it for lame, imaginary or subjective reasons. How about, 'By voting by mail I can avoid the horrors of a fatal car crash?'

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Wed May 20, 2020, 12:40 PM

30. From the Rule of Law group

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #30)

Wed May 20, 2020, 12:54 PM

32. The only way lefty can win is to cheat.

Hence opposition to any form of election integrity.

Don't even bother responding, lying non lawyer.

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Response to kevlar (Reply #32)

Fri May 22, 2020, 07:08 PM

41. So the president was cheating and had no integrity

when he voted absentee ballot in the Florida primary and when he voted absentee ballot in the 2018 New York mid-terms? That seems a wee bit harsh to me.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #41)

Fri May 22, 2020, 08:59 PM

43. Silly propagandist.

Trump is no lefty.

And even your ignorant ass should know the difference between a legitimate absentee ballot for an out of their state voter and mass voting by mail.

When did you stop beating your spouse?

Really dumb lefty.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Wed May 20, 2020, 01:03 PM

33. The States should just place......

....polling locations at Walmart, Target, Home Depot, Lowes and Grocery Store Parking Lots as no one seems to be too concerned to frequent these locations or have issues about standing in a line to purchase the products they prefer.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 12:16 AM

38. My family and I have voted from home the past few years

It's an option in my state and we find it very convenient. It's essential for my elderly parents who wouldn't be able to stand in line.

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Response to jh4freedom (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 10:03 PM

46. I trust no voting system unless you show up in person, present proof of identity and eligibility...

And vote with a complete audit trail and verifiable chain of custody.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #46)

Fri May 22, 2020, 10:36 PM

47. Last time I went to a polling place was in 2005

And I vote in every election. I'm a permanent absentee voter. In California, in 1962 2.63% of voters voted by absentee ballot. In 2020's California primary 72.08% of voters voted by absentee ballot.

Here's my lovely polling place, a ten minute walk from my house, St.George Serbian Orthodox Church in San Diego. I prefer to fill out my ballot at home and then drive it over to the Registrar of Voters office and drop it in a drive through box.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #47)

Fri May 22, 2020, 10:59 PM

48. Beautiful church

Here's mine, it's the local Volunteer Fire Department, who saved my home from burning completely to the ground back in 13, They have my eternal gratitude. There's always a couple of old dudes on the way out willing to shoot the shit and share a bottle with you on the way out, I love my little rural farming community.

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