Politicsquestionsforliberals

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:24 AM

A few questions for liberals

1.) What exactly is lashing out at the American people going to accomplish? Perhaps I'm mistaken, but from where I'm sitting, calling people racists, Kochsuckers, stupid, ignorant and ungrateful is a piss poor way to gain new converts and only serves to isolate you even more.

2.) Wouldn't it make infinitely more sense to simply adjust your message to appeal to more Americans, or, at the very least, try and convey that message in a less hostile and judgemental way? It's not necessarily the message that's being rejected, but the messengers. There was no greater progressive, for example, than FDR, and he was absolutely beloved by most average Americans - This despite the fact that he was by birth, breeding and temperament a rich, East Coast patrician elitist.

3.) Why is it so important for some liberals to constantly denigrate poor, rural white Southern and Midwestern Christians knowing full well that such attacks only serve to alienate them even further and make them less likely to vote democrat? You can scream and howl all you want about how they've allowed themselves to be brainwashed by conservative talk radio, but ask yourselves what have progressives done to reach out to these folks?

This should be a night of reflection for liberals. If you want lash out at someone, please start by lashing out at yourselves.

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Reply A few questions for liberals (Original post)
Bronxbomber Nov 2014 OP
Cliqueclaque Nov 2014 #1
Konservative Nov 2014 #5
JoePolitics Nov 2014 #9
Hades Nov 2014 #14
Cliqueclaque Nov 2014 #12
island4diver Nov 2014 #11
Attila Gorilla Nov 2014 #2
Superfuzz Bigmuff Nov 2014 #3
Attila Gorilla Nov 2014 #4
Satanica Nov 2014 #6
Hockamaw Nov 2014 #8
brew9876 Nov 2014 #13
theblueboar Nov 2014 #7
Slayer Nov 2014 #10
eccentrist Nov 2014 #15

Response to Bronxbomber (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 04:34 AM

1. Sluts, communists, socialists, gun grabbers, parasites, thugs, libtards

Give me a few minutes and I could come up with more epithets from the right, I'm kind of tired and I'm keeping myself awake because I'm driving a friend to the hospital in about a half hour..

Both sides really do do it when it comes to name calling and denigrating people, liberals denigrate poor whites, conservatives denigrate poor blacks.

It's just human nature to divide ourselves up in groups and accentuate difference between the groups, it takes a major effort to keep from doing that for most people.

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Response to Cliqueclaque (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:54 AM

5. You're supposed to be more tolerant then RW nuts,

 

right?

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Response to Konservative (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:23 AM

9. Do as we say not as we do ... typical RW.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:01 AM

14. You all constantly...

...yell about the GOP running on family values, but not standing behind it.

Seems the same thing that a party of tolerance isn't really so tolerant. "Damn dirty smokers, damn evil gun owners, damn racist southerners, etc".

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Response to Konservative (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:50 AM

12. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone

And people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Self-centered narcissistic jerks can't help being what they are so we should be tolerant of them, yes?

You ever get the feeling that there are people who root for Darth Vader and the Empire in the Star Wars flicks?



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Response to Cliqueclaque (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:49 AM

11. gun grabber can be bi partisan

see Bloomberg or any big city mayor. On the other hand, I know liberals and Democrats with more guns than Ted Nugent (just not as loud mouthed and boorish.)

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Response to Bronxbomber (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:11 AM

2. You're not a good example of someone

who doesn't denigrate people.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 05:54 AM

3. What they're telling us is we all have to talk like they do...

http://www.discussionist.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=51789

Then the world will be a better, smarter and more tolerant place...

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Response to Superfuzz Bigmuff (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:24 AM

4. "all courtesy of the racist, sexist American taxpayer"

Racist against whom? The ooooold "I don't know what you're taking about" game. They want you to know what they're talking about but they want to play games.

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Response to Bronxbomber (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:57 AM

6. Fuck the American people

 

They are the most ignorant people the planet earth has to offer

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Response to Satanica (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:22 AM

8. LOL! You're so mad.

 

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Response to Satanica (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 09:54 AM

13. LOL

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Response to Bronxbomber (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:00 AM

7. Answers

 

1)Pot meet Kettle. I can make long list of Conservative namecalling, and I wouldn't have to leave DIS to compile it.

2) Totally agree. A true Liberal message would have inspired many people who stayed home to come out and vote. Obama's biggest disappointment is his failure to articulate a Liberal Vision.

3)We denigrate racists only. Whoever, whereever, whenever. The racists are the Republican leaders who "represent" the poor folk from the south. Just because a liberal says you are a racist, it means you probably are.

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Response to Bronxbomber (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 08:24 AM

10. If I answer the questions does that mean I

 

Have to agree there was some sort of mandate last night? Don't you first have to have a message to gain a mandate? I'm not him, does not a mandate make. Red and reddish states electing republican senators seems logical. The dems that are gone are no real loss to us. Anyway, I see it more like, keeping the powder dry. Obama WILL become a formidable campaigner for dems in the future.

Anyway.

1: Name calling doesnt seem to be an issue outside of internet message boards. I just do not see this happening. Maybe it should be more prevalent. If the shoe fits.

2: Again you are asuming it was the message that was rejected. I like that you advocate winnning by deception, very right wing of you.

3: It is a very unfortunate fact that you need the majority to become ignorant to continually decieve them. And when the decievers hide behind a bible, it becomes increasingly difficult to rid the flock of the problem. Unless society crashes this will be a self correcting problem. So there is no reason to try and convince the unconvincible of anything. It's beyond their grasp.

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Response to Bronxbomber (Original post)

Wed Nov 5, 2014, 10:44 AM

15. There's not a whole lot of "gaining converts" going on in American politics any more.

This is true of republicans and democrats alike: the vast majority of campaign rhetoric is designed to get your supporters to vote, or to discourage members of the other party.

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