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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:31 AM

Dismissing scientific evidence in favor of fantasy: Isn't that what libs always mock religious

people for?

All the forensic and scientific evidence supports Wilson's account of what transpired. Three autopsies were performed on Brown, including one by legendary forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden at the request of the Brown family. None of the forensic evidence found shows that Brown was shot in the back or while attempting to surrender, yet many liberals continue to indulge these fantasies. Why? What's the logical in continuing this grotesque charade any longer? Is it motivated by guilt, shame, or politics? It certainly can't be justice, because that was served good and proper by those who actually considered the physical and forensic evidence and didn't allow themselves to fall prey to their puerile emotions.

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Reply Dismissing scientific evidence in favor of fantasy: Isn't that what libs always mock religious (Original post)
Bronxbomber Nov 2014 OP
Dyfar Nov 2014 #1
Dork_Diggler Nov 2014 #2
ProudNYSTaxPayer Nov 2014 #3
mcruz Nov 2014 #5
ProudNYSTaxPayer Nov 2014 #9
island4diver Nov 2014 #11
ProudNYSTaxPayer Nov 2014 #12
Bo Diddley Nov 2014 #6
ProudNYSTaxPayer Nov 2014 #7
ol geezer Nov 2014 #8
ProudNYSTaxPayer Nov 2014 #10
WhoProfits Nov 2014 #4

Response to Bronxbomber (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:42 AM

1. A culure of victimhood

Nothing can convince them that they aren't victims. They want to live in a world where they don't have to be responsible for their actions and that everything is someone else's fault.

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Response to Bronxbomber (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:46 AM

2. They are too emotionally invested.

Facts and logic just don't matter to people who are delusional.

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Response to Bronxbomber (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:07 AM

3. The forensic evidence

supports only that Michael was facing officer Wilson when the shots were fired. The whole crux of this case hinges on whether or not Michael had begun to move toward the officer in an aggressive manor which justified the use of lethal force and there is no physical evidence either way on that, only a bunch of contradictory statements. As I said in an OP of my own, this should have gone to trial, there is enough evidence to have reasonable cause, but I don't think that they would have been able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the crime was committed.

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Response to ProudNYSTaxPayer (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:03 PM

5. What the witnesses said, however...

Grand Jury witnesses, more than one, described Brown's approach toward Officer Wilson as a "bull rush". Brown was 6'4" and 260+ pounds.

The toxicology report said he was also high on marijuana. THC, the active drug in marijuana, affects things like risk-taking and judgement.

I would have pulled the trigger, too.

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Response to mcruz (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:18 PM

9. And in a trial

that may be a reason to acquit, but since there were also witness that said that he wasn't attacking Wilson that point, and it is probably the most important one of the grand jury info, is a push. And Wilson was 6'4" 210 of solid muscle and police training, Brown's and Wilson's sizes are comparable. As to your statement about him being high, you should look into some of the other general side effects of THC like lethargy.

I have no idea if Wilson was justified or not, I wasn't there, but the evidence present would have been enough to get an indictment in the vast majority of cases but probably not enough for a conviction.

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Response to ProudNYSTaxPayer (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 01:21 PM

11. I don't know if it is mentioned in the GJ

but shell casings from Wilson's pistol were found in front of and behind Brown's body. I don't know about you, but that indicates Wilson retreating and firing.

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Response to island4diver (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 02:00 PM

12. Do you have a link to that

I have been trying to find a listing of the shell casing locations and I haven't been able to find one. I have seen a couple of sights that theorized about the location of evidence cones, but without know what that evidence was I won't make the leap to assume that they were casings.

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Response to ProudNYSTaxPayer (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:05 PM

6. I didn't know you served on the Grand Jury

 

Please tell us more!

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Response to Bo Diddley (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:12 PM

7. I didn't need to be

since they released the findings from the autopsy. NPR has already posted over half of the reports and transcripts from the GJ and will have the rest up ASAP.

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Response to ProudNYSTaxPayer (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:18 PM

8. How did the confrontation start?

Was Officer Wilson professional from the start? Or was Wilson purposely demeaning, aggressive and combative, to provoking Brown, so he could then add more charges?
Nowhere do I remember reading or hearing anything about the demeanor of Wilson at the start of the confrontation. This could most certainly have set the whole tone for everything that happened afterwards, including why Brown was charging Wilson. There are a few more loose ends that have not been properly addressed, such as if Brown was running away, why did he turn around and charge back?

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 12:22 PM

10. I don't think that any of that matters in this case

In this instance all that really matters is that at the moment of the second set of shots did officer Wilson have reason to fear for his life. If Brown was truly charging at him the answer is probably yes, if he was walking or stopped, probably not. Again though, there was enough evidence that the question should have been brought before a jury to decide.

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Response to Bronxbomber (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:31 AM

4. Your opinion does not magically transform into fact because you pretend it is.

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