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Fri Nov 28, 2014, 05:43 PM

 

More Right Wing Terror--Gunman Shoots up Austin

Just the latest in a long line of regressives taking out their frustrations with terror attacks:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/28/gunman-killed-targeted-austin-buildings/19607141/

AUSTIN, Texas — A white, middle-aged gunman, in what appears to be a politically motivated anti-government attack linked to immigration, fired more than a hundred rounds at buildings in downtown Austin early Friday and tried to set fire to the Mexican consulate before he died of a gunshot wound.

Police identified the gunman as 49-year-old Larry Steven McQuilliams and said he had a criminal record. No details were immediately released about his background.

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More right-wing terrorists are listed below:

* Timothy McViegh, exploded a truck bomb at the Murrah Federal Building and killed 168 people. He was active in anti-gov't movements and planned the attack to coincide with the anniversary of the BATF raid on David Koresh's Waco compound.

* Bundy supporters and Anti-gov't extremists in LA kill (http://www.startribune.com/262333211.html) two police officers, covering one of the bodies with a "Don't Tread on Me" flag

* Frazier Glenn Cross, a 73-year-old Missouri man with a long history of spouting anti-Semitic rhetoric, fatally shoting three people: a boy and his grandfather outside a Jewish community center in Overland Park, Kansas, and a woman at a nearby assisted-living facility.

* Jim David Atkisson shot up a Unitarian Church and killed two because as he said he hated "Democrats, liberals, homosexuals, and African Americans"

* Christopher and Wade Lay: In May 2004, Christopher and Wade Lay shot and murdered a security guard during a bank robbery. The son-and-father criminal team said they wanted to steal the money to buy arms to fight the government thanks to federal action at Waco in 1993 and Ruby Ridge in 1992.

* Keith Luke: A white supremacist broke into an apartment, raped a woman, and shot two more people in 2009. He planned to attack a Jewish synagogue. His motive: killing “nonwhite people.”

* Scott Roeder assassinated Dr. George Tiller, an abortionist, in 2009. He was "a member of the anti-government Montana Freemen group. He was stopped in Topeka, Kansas, in April 1996 while displaying a placard reading 'Sovereign Citizen' in lieu of a license plate;" was also linked to the right-wing "Operation Rescue".

* James Von Brunn shot a security guard at the US Holocaust Memorial in Washington, D.C. in June 2009. He was a white supremacist and Holocaust denier.

* Robert Andrew Poplawski got into a fight with his mother over a dog urinating in their home in 2009. He opened fire on Pittsburgh police officers, killing three. He was an anti-Semite and feared a gun ban by Barack Obama.

*Joshua Cartwright fought his wife. His rampage didn’t stop until after he had killed two sheriff’s deputies. Cartwright was described by his wife as conspiratorial and anti-Obama.

* Shawna Forde, Jason Eugene Bush, Albert Robert Gaxiola killed a Latino man and his daughter and attempted to kill the wife and mother.

* Raymond Franklin Peake, a prison guard, shot a lawyer to death at a gun range so he could steal his gun for use to overthrow the US government in 2010.

* Andrew Joseph Stack flew his small plane into the IRS building in Austin Texas, killing an IRS agent. Stack’s suicide note contained rage at the IRS.

* David “Joey” Pedersen and Holly Ann Grigsby (4): The white supremacist couple killed four people in the Pacific Northwest in 2011 because they were minority or had Jewish names. They wanted to target Jewish organizations.

* Wade Michael Page opened fire at a Sikh mosque in 2012.

* Brian Lyn Smith and his friend Kyle David Joekel were involved in the shooting of two sheriff’s deputies in Louisiana in 2012. Both were members of the sovereign citizens movement.

* Isaac Aguigui, Anthony Peden, Christopher Salmon, Heather Salmon (2): These four killed a former Army compatriot, and formed an anarchist militia group. They allegedly wanted to poison Washington State’s apple crop and blow up a dam. Aguigui was a page at the Republican National Convention in 2008.

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Reply More Right Wing Terror--Gunman Shoots up Austin (Original post)
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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 05:46 PM

1. These terrorists are the real danger in this country.

 

I think I saw him in photos of the Bundy ranch militas, or was it the Border Klan?

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Response to IsYouCrazy (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 05:49 PM

2. Right. Just imagine if this had been someone who leaned Left . . . just imagine the wailing and

 

gnashing of teeth on the Right.

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Response to IsYouCrazy (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:02 PM

9. Yes...

These (so called) terrorists are killing people every day on the streets of cities like Chicago, L.A., New York, Milwaukee and on and on...

Oh my bad. You're not talking about the street gangs.

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Response to 700WinMag (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:30 PM

14. Street gangs don't blow up the Murrah Federal Building for political motives.

 

When Al Capone knocked off a bunch of gangsters in the St. Valentine's Day massacre, it wasn't a terrorist act.

Duh.

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:56 PM

21. No, but the body count is a lot higher.

Dead is dead, regardless of motive.

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:42 PM

68. They would blow shit up if they knew how.

 

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 05:52 PM

3. so?

what do you propose we do about this?

lets here the laws you would pass? and for bonus do you think the position you post makes your people more or less electable?

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 05:58 PM

6. Funny that you of all people would ask that!

 

You know just what to say to Moslems about jihadis who commit terrorism in the name of their religion.

Maybe you "moderate" Cons need to reign in the extremists and terrorists in your midst? That's what you say to the Muslims, isn't it.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 05:57 PM

4. Thanks Joe you have out done yourself,silliest post of the day...

My favs.....

Raymond Franklin Peake, a prison guard, shot a lawyer to death at a gun range so he could steal his gun for use to overthrow the US government in 2010.

Robert Andrew Poplawski got into a fight with his mother over a dog urinating in their home in 2009. He opened fire on Pittsburgh police officers, killing three. He was an anti-Semite and feared a gun ban by Barack Obama.

Isaac Aguigui, Anthony Peden, Christopher Salmon, Heather Salmon (2): These four killed a former Army compatriot, and formed an anarchist militia group. They allegedly wanted to poison Washington State’s apple crop and blow up a dam. Aguigui was a page at the Republican National Convention in 2008.

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:00 PM

7. The fact that not ever single one exactly meets your definition of terrorism doesn't mean

 

a lot of those remaining really are terrorists.

And they come from YOUR SIDE of the aisle.

Why don't you moderate Cons take responsibility for them . . . just like you ask the Moslems to do.

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:02 PM

8. You are making up stuff..

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:05 PM

10. So...

Which side are the ones on that are killing people EVERY damn day in this country?

You know, all those innocent street gang members and wanna be criminals.

But you know this, your just reaching...

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Response to 700WinMag (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:20 PM

12. Street criminals kill for greed. They don't kill for political motives. Try to keep up . . . nt

 

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:29 PM

13. +100

Send in the clowns and here they are.

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Response to Shredded Hedly (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:45 PM

18. Says the guy...

Looking in the mirror.

All you have is condescending insults. Get some new material.

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Response to 700WinMag (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:47 PM

19. PO

Are you my father? No? Then take a hike.

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Response to Shredded Hedly (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 07:04 PM

23. Oooooh...

I hike all the time. You should try it sometime. Might help you reduce stress and be more kind to others, something you seem to not be very good at.

So? Am I going to because you told me to?

Nope.

I think you might just need a hug...

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:43 PM

17. That has what

To do with what?

Killing is killing. Whether it is in the name of greed, drugs, colors or Allah it is still killing.

Quit grandstanding.

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 07:01 PM

22. Oh wait???

Political motives you say?

Sooooooooo... What about the recent posts about Christian terrorists? You know, the one about the guy who stabbed his friend because he got kicked out of the band. How was that political again?

What about the guy in the Burgers R Us joint that had a melt down most likely because of a mental illness. How was that political again?

But that fits the lefts agenda...

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Response to JoeHill (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 07:44 PM

27. Interesting distinction you are trying to make there

Political motives vs greed.

I fail to see a substantial difference in most of our modern system. The anti-abortion terrorists are RW religeous ideologues, so thats not greed. But the anti-tax anti-government terrorists are at least arguably greed oriented.

And it seems a lot of the street criminals are motivated nearly as much by power as by greed. While a mugging is clearly directly a greed issue, a drive-by is more power and community control oriented, which is arguably a form of politics, even though its usually lacking ties to the official governmental structure.

If you really want to stretch the argument we could claim that street crime is another form of RW terrorism, based on its essential core of libertarian philosophy.. A rejection of society's regulations, resulting in a rule free "I'm stronger so I will take the rewards". Whether they be the contents of your wallet, or the safety of your neighborhood.

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Response to OneLoudVoice (Reply #27)

Sat Dec 13, 2014, 11:42 PM

57. I'll make the distinction for you.

He doesn't care about street gang murders, because if the high rate of minorities in them. The left has an unspoken rule that you can't ever say anything bad about minorities, even if it is a fact, so he is using his PC powers and ignoring street gangs when you mention them.

He is right bashing here; street gangs don't fit the narrative.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 05:58 PM

5. What is your point?

Do you get a high five? A cookie? Did you know if you wear a cape while posting you would be super special?

Or is this just another of your pointless smears that you believe applies to everyone you don't agree with?

I'm certain someone will reply with a list of left wing fruitcakes in short order which will prove exactly what your post did: Nothing.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:34 PM

15. how much does GOPers incendiary language have to do with idiots feeling their frustration

entitles them to commit acts of violence on innocent people....


Tom Coburn trying to incite a riot in his inflammatory, ridiculous, irresponsible rhetoric?

WASHINGTON — Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn warns there could be not only a political firestorm but acts of civil disobedience and even violence in reaction to President Obama's executive order on immigration Thursday.

"The country's going to go nuts, because they're going to see it as a move outside the authority of the president, and it's going to be a very serious situation," Coburn said on Capital Download. "You're going to see — hopefully not — but you could see instances of anarchy. ... You could see violence."
(more)

"The country's going to go nuts..."

"You're going to see ... instances of anarchy"

"You could see violence."



It's not enough to characterize Coburn as a 'dick', or a jackass. This is seriously irresponsible language coming from someone who is in government. He is attempting to lend a certain legitimacy to unlawful behavior with these statements by which he is calling on - worded as a warning of course - any idiot with a screw loose, to commit crimes. I would never reflect upon whether fate might deliver one inciting violence some poetic justice (if I did I'm sure RWers would alert my comment for being 'beyond the pale'). But Coburn's speech is not censured. Amazing!

... It's also important to the paranoiac mind to establish the fault of his violence is not his own - but that of some one else - conveniently a Democratic politician (usually whoever is President at the time) who is the real cause of his acts of violence. Coburn is providing the kook with his rationalization for violence. It matters not to Coburn, that the kook may have never had a political thought in is life. Just that he can be manipulated for political ends.

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Response to Starbux (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:53 PM

20. Thoughts on Al Sharpton?

 

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Response to Starbux (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 30, 2014, 08:54 PM

51. Stochastic violence, it's called. OReilly calling George Tiller

 

"Tiller the baby killer" a few hundred times sure didn't help him not get murdered by Scott Roeder.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:39 PM

16. And I'm glad the police shot at him and he is dead. I see they are investigating whether

he died from the cops shot or it was self inflicted.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 07:06 PM

24. With all these crazy anti-semites running around and killing people.

 

This Jew is not giving up his gun rights. Think I'll just keep adding to the stockpile <cough> collection (I do have collector grade firearms in the collection but they're from storage units mostly with a few exceptions).

Thank god none of these whackos have any real brilliance, initiative, or planning behind them. Any chemistry major (or like I who was a chemistry major before he became a legal studies major) can tell you that McVeigh's bomb was really lazy. It worked because there was just a ton (literally several tons) of explosive materials and fuel. While it's harder to get ammonium nitrate, it's not harder to get sulfur, potassium nitrate, red phosphorus, magnesium ribbon, aluminum foil, potassium chlorite, iron oxide, sulfuric acid, nitric acid, methanol, muriatic acid, acetone, etc. etc. etc. etc.. Not to mention pre-pay phones that don't really require personal information to activate.

If these Nazi types ever get organized, I'll have a happy day indeed, because Nazis are always good to kill.

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Response to TIMETOCHANGE (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 30, 2014, 08:58 PM

52. I collect guns too. I like old, clunky steel guns the best (i.e., mil surp).

 

I collected old Russian stuff first because I really liked the fact that it was made to kill Nazis, hah. Unfortunately, just because the CCCP fought the Nazis didn't mean they were particularly sympathetic to Russian or Polish Jews, heigh ho.

But anyway, if you have anything you want to dispose of, send me an e-mail.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 07:22 PM

25. The nutcase in Austin fired over 100 rounds

The local news is covering this story

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Response to Maine (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 07:48 PM

28. Conservative, liberal, black, white, whatever. Never trust a renaissance fair enthusiast.

 

Although this one was a conservative.

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Response to Thomas (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 07:50 PM

29. Was he a conservative?

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Response to Maine (Reply #29)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 07:52 PM

30. Yes.

 

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Response to Thomas (Reply #30)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 07:53 PM

31. Can you post a link?

Thanks....

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Response to Maine (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:02 PM

33. Not right now. I'm on a phone. However, I would surmise that most renaissance

 

Fair enthusiasts are conservative/regressive types because they really love hierarchical systems and would like to return us to the feudal age.

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Response to Thomas (Reply #33)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:04 PM

34. OK...I look forward to seeing the link noting that....

once you are off the phone.

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Response to Maine (Reply #34)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:08 PM

35. OK. But only if you promise to hold your breath.

 

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Response to Thomas (Reply #35)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:10 PM

36. Take your time.....

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Response to Maine (Reply #36)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:11 PM

37. Promise you'll hold your breath?

 

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Response to Thomas (Reply #37)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:13 PM

38. Let's see what you have Thomas.....

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Response to Maine (Reply #38)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:17 PM

39. Ya know, Maine, if that is your real name, it doesn't appear to me like you want to uphold your end

 

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Response to Thomas (Reply #39)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:18 PM

40. You're the one who made a claim that they have yet to back up

Why is that?

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Response to Maine (Reply #40)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:24 PM

41. Because, as I've said, I'm on a "smartphone" and it will not allow me to.

 

But that's neither here nor there. YOU, Maine, if that's even your real name, don't seem to want to uphold your end. Why is that? You see, I have a life outside of talking to complete strangers with differing, albeit wrong, political views. I'm gonna score some meth and I may not back for awhile. You and this place just aren't that important that I'll put my happiness on hold to provide a link for you. Sure, I'll just run to neighbor's and miss my connection so I can prove some stranger with a fake name on the Internet wrong. Why won't you uphold your end?

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Response to Thomas (Reply #41)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:26 PM

42. Have fun running away!

Run as fast as you can.....

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Response to Maine (Reply #42)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:28 PM

43. I can definitely outrun you, and bench press more than you. But in the words of FDR,

 

"I SHALL RETURN" Back to your hovel. That's a good lad. Way to wuss out on the agreement. Run along now

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Response to Thomas (Reply #43)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:29 PM

44. I thought you were leaving?

You seem to have issues with being truthful.Typical....

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Response to Maine (Reply #44)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:31 PM

45. What are you benching? 185 with a vest?

 

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Response to Thomas (Reply #45)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:32 PM

46. Still not backing up your claim? And still here?

Nice try at deflection......so very lame.

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Response to Maine (Reply #46)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:33 PM

47. So it's even less than 185?

 

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Response to Thomas (Reply #47)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:34 PM

48. Still waiting......

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Response to Maine (Reply #40)

Sat Dec 13, 2014, 09:11 PM

55. That dude was in a far right wacko group called, "Phineas Priestess' "

 

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Response to Thomas (Reply #55)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:35 PM

67. Self appointed...correct?

Why so long for the response?

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Response to Thomas (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 13, 2014, 11:47 PM

58. Hey, I like that fair.

But you are right. If they wanted it authentic, instead of romantized, nobody there would bathe for a few weeks before showing up, all the port-a-potties would be replaced with chamber pots, the toilet paper would be gone, the food would be cooked without any FDA regulations, and the water would be dirty.

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Response to Thomas (Reply #28)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:52 AM

65. I always had a thing

for the Rat Lady.
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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 07:55 PM

32. Yep, you're much more likely to be killed by a RW terrorist than a Muslim.

That's truth.

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Response to MrSlayer666 (Reply #32)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 04:46 PM

69. Isn't that the whole point of CIA?

 

Assuming you mean foreign Muslim.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 08:57 PM

49. The list of left wing terrorists is at least as long

As the right wing one. I will not pick apart your post piece by piece, but Stack was a Democrat. Just because you hate the IRS does not mean you are right wing.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sat Nov 29, 2014, 01:41 PM

50. i've never heard of a right winger who goes to Renaissance Faires.

 

That's a DEFINITELY a lefty kinda' thing. More than likely he was firing at the police station to send a message about the 300LB Felon in Missouri.

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Response to HangingJuror (Reply #50)

Sat Dec 13, 2014, 11:59 PM

60. Right wingers would be more into Inquisition Fairs

 

But it is not out of the question many would be attracted to crossbows, artisans, and social backwardness.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:26 AM

54. as you mention McV. don't forget the terrorists inside the compound itself

Though they tried to sugarcoat who was inside.
Recently I read aside from stockpiling guns and wanting to do who knows what, they also had a working
meth lab. (So basically one illegality after another and a pre-Walter White type enterprises going on, most likely tax free)

and where was the outrage for the 4 dead for no reason federal agents?

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sat Dec 13, 2014, 11:35 PM

56. That is a pretty short list...

...compared to the daily bombings and beheadings in the Middle East.

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Response to Hades (Reply #56)

Sat Dec 13, 2014, 11:59 PM

62. Yep

They're right back to humping McVeigh's mouldering corpse again.

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sat Dec 13, 2014, 11:56 PM

59. We must stop these right wing terrorists by any means necessary

 

I say round up militiamen and start anally feeding them, water boarding them... Whatever it takes . Because America

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #59)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:12 AM

63. I'll loan you a plate carrier and even a rifle

If you'll stack up to do the first dynamic entry..


Big guy on the other side of a keyboard... C'mon hoss sack up and teach a gun nut a lesson.

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Response to _eek (Reply #63)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:17 AM

64. I already have

 

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #64)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 02:00 AM

66. Well get to work

lead on

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Response to JoeHill (Original post)

Sat Dec 13, 2014, 11:59 PM

61. you missed a few I can think of

 


James Charles Kopp murdered Dr. Barnett Slepian in 1998 (and very certainly was the shooter in other incidents targetting doctors, including three in Canada). He was finally extradited from France after being sheltered by extremist Roman Catholic groups in Europe. He targeted doctors who provided abortion services.

Eric Robert Rudolph killed two people and injured many more in a series of bombings, including at the Atlanta Olympics. He had spent time with the Christian Identity movement as a youth and his claimed motivation was to fight abortion and the "homosexual agenda".

More murders, attempted murders, arsons, bombings and threats committed by anti-reproctive rights militants:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#Murders


Scott Roeder assassinated Dr. George Tiller, an abortionist, in 2009
George Tiller was not an abortionist, he was a physician.

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Response to i verglas (Reply #61)

Sun Dec 14, 2014, 05:25 PM

70. Good points. nt

 

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