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Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:33 PM

 

Pennsylvania man who lost his job over rape accuation is acquitted

A Pennsylvania man named Michael Ponessa was acquitted of rape in PA. The article states that Ponessa "lost his job after charges were filed on Jan. 31. "This has meant a lot to him and his family. He's gone through 12 months of pretty much hell."

http://www.ldnews.com/crime/ci_27068458/south-lebanon-township-man-acquitted-rape

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Reply Pennsylvania man who lost his job over rape accuation is acquitted (Original post)
Julio Dec 2014 OP
Phlegm Monger Dec 2014 #1
Frostlight Dec 2014 #3
Phlegm Monger Dec 2014 #8
Julio Dec 2014 #9
New Deal Democrat Dec 2014 #5
Currentsitguy Dec 2014 #7
Julio Dec 2014 #10
Phlegm Monger Dec 2014 #11
Slayer Dec 2014 #2
TIMETOCHANGE Dec 2014 #4
smoke check Dec 2014 #12
Fine Kettle Of Fish Dec 2014 #6
smoke check Dec 2014 #13
Slayer Dec 2014 #14
Ms.Eloriel Dec 2014 #15


Response to Phlegm Monger (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 5, 2014, 01:28 PM

3. Which is irrelevant.

But ya just gotta find some way to make someone who's been falsely accused of rape a villain, dontcha?

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Response to Frostlight (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:08 PM

8. it looks like he was held rather than released on the dui

So, yeah, that could result in job loss.

Is he a villain? I dunno, he was found not guilty but he wasn't found innocent. Not enough details of the trial to say, really.

Here's a report from when he was bound over for trial with a bit more info:

http://www.ldnews.com/local/ci_25338858/court-south-lebanon-man-bound-over-trial-rape

According to court records, Ponessa, who had been drinking, came to the woman's home about that time and woke her up by banging on the door. The woman told police she had not had any contact with Ponessa for two years.

After exchanging hugs, the woman went to the kitchen to get Ponessa a glass of water. Ponessa grabbed the woman's arms and pulled her against him, prompting the woman to tell him to leave.

Ponessa then threatened her and pushed her up steps and into her bedroom, where he forced her to have sex.

The woman went to Good Samaritan Hospital, where a sexual assault kit was completed and examination revealed bruising of her genital area.

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Response to Phlegm Monger (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 5, 2014, 01:31 PM

5. Do you think employees should be fired if they get a DUI?

I don't.

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Response to New Deal Democrat (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:02 PM

7. No do I

Unless driving is a part of their job.

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Response to New Deal Democrat (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:18 PM

11. if you're held in jail for the weekend and you're supposed to be at work...

you might well get fired.

But generally, no. A dui shouldn't have much bearing on most jobs.

From the report it looked like he was held rather than released.

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Response to Julio (Original post)

Fri Dec 5, 2014, 01:16 PM

2. Well good, but too late.

 

A good friend and I were talking about a similar subject, with the same result a week or so ago. We were discussing the damge that certain accusations do even if dropped by innuendo. We discussed a similar case here. Guy lost everything. I read a couple articles on-line when the story was fresh (pretty big news out here) and was positive this guy was a perv. No doubt in my mind. Coulda knocked me over with a feather when he said it was all a lie. It is a pox upon all who have been molested, and are too scared (or whatever the reason) to report it.

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Response to Julio (Original post)

Fri Dec 5, 2014, 01:31 PM

4. Rape accusations can be horribly damaging, the problem is they're typically true in most cases.

 

Innocent men do get destroyed by these allegations. As such we should work towards establishing an immunity standard in criminal courts that require more than merely the victims word to establish guilt. I hate to be an asshole about it but this makes sense in my mind and it can help everyone if done right.

If the only evidence the prosecution has is the word of the victim than the judge can be petitioned for a motion of immunity where the accused has to appear and give testimony. The testimony can be as little as "I didn't rape her." The prosecution would then have the right to cross-examine and put on other witnesses in support as well as any other evidence gained from rape kits, medical examinations and so on. If there is more evidence than merely the victim's word, than there could be no dismissal. If there is only the victim's word, then the judge would have the right to question and weigh the testimony of the accused. The accused would have to take the stand in their own defense though, that would be clincher, and anything said by the accused could be used against them at trial.

These hearings could be petitioned for by the accused with or without an attorney (the form of the petition should be offered at arraignment in my opinion), and the hearing would have to take place within thirty days of their petition. Failure of the prosecution to be ready for the hearing within thirty days would be an automatic granting of dismissal. This would force the prosecutors to conduct greater due diligence in investigating the claim of rape.

Once system is in place then there should be a public awareness campaign so that victims would know to go to an emergency room or gyno immediately after a rape to preserve some form of evidence of their trauma. Get a toxicology report done as well for traces of various drugs used to commit rape.

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Response to TIMETOCHANGE (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:41 PM

12. Most...

means that between 8% (more likely 25%) and 60% of rape reports to the police are either unfounded or an outright lie.

http://ncfm.org/2009/01/issues/false-accusations/

That is out of incidents where some kind of paperwork and foot work was done.

I would rather see that someone who falsely accuses another of rape be sentenced to what the accused was going to spend in prison.

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Response to Fine Kettle Of Fish (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:42 PM

13. That would be a bucket of cold water on the feminists. nt.

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Response to Julio (Original post)

Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:57 PM

14. Does making false rape accusations carry over

 

To those making false racist allegations on message boards? Both are labels no one should just apply or imply towards another with out solid proof.

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Response to Julio (Original post)

Fri Dec 5, 2014, 05:08 PM

15. Aquittal =/= innocence

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