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Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:51 PM

 

hahahha! those tough badass conservatives in house are caving in to Obama

Spending bill will go through. They won't touch funding of DHS re: immigration in the face of his executive order.

Too funny.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/12/11/morning-plum-conservatives-are-right-gop-is-caving-in-face-of-obama-tyranny/

But conservatives are right: If you take at face value House GOP leaders’ own lurid depictions of Obama’s action as a dire Constitutional threat, they are basically rolling over in the face of it. Indeed, if they don’t exercise maximum resistance now, barring a lucky break in the courts later, there may be little they can do to stop it.

The Hill reports this morning that even if Republicans were to refuse to fund DHS, it would be unlikely to stop Obama’s executive action. Here’s why:


It’s unclear how much weight the threat of withholding funding would carry. Eighty-five percent of DHS employees continued to work during last year’s 16-day shutdown because they were funded with mandatory funds or deemed “essential” to national security or public safety, according to figures the Congressional Research Service (CRS) tracked down for GOP lawmakers.

Only 15 percent of DHS employees were furloughed in last year’s shutdown, the CRS found. On top of that, some 90 percent of the department’s U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), the agency key to implementing Obama’s executive action, continued operating.

Some rank-and-file Republicans are worried that Obama could declare all DHS workers “essential” and keep them on the job — then simply pay them once a funding deal is reached.

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Reply hahahha! those tough badass conservatives in house are caving in to Obama (Original post)
Cardinals1982 Dec 2014 OP
Satanica Dec 2014 #1
metroins Dec 2014 #2
Cardinals1982 Dec 2014 #3
metroins Dec 2014 #4
Satanica Dec 2014 #6
MeatSandwich Dec 2014 #8
Gr8Daze Dec 2014 #5
Cardinals1982 Dec 2014 #11
Letmypeoplevote Dec 2014 #7
MeatSandwich Dec 2014 #9
Letmypeoplevote Dec 2014 #10
Gr8Daze Dec 2014 #12
MeatSandwich Dec 2014 #13
Zimm_Man_Fan Dec 2014 #14

Response to Cardinals1982 (Original post)

Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:05 PM

1. Cowards

 



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Response to Cardinals1982 (Original post)

Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:10 PM

2. Why is this funny? This is our country and things are at least getting done

Why would you call a political party "Cowards"? Either way you slice it, funding had to happen and this is a pretty small compromise.

Politics for centuries has all been about compromise.

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Response to metroins (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:13 PM

3. It's more a dig at the ridiculous hyperbole thrown out all of the time

 

Such as comparing Obama's executive action as tyrannical and a step toward the death of our nation and democracy.

Of COURSE they should all compromise for the good of our country.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:21 PM

4. Oh, I guess it went over my head

I try to stay out of the hyperbole threads, oops.

Thanks for explaining.

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Response to metroins (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:28 PM

6. Their rhetoric

 

doesn't match their actions

It's fucking hilarious to watch that party fall apart over and over and over...

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 11, 2014, 09:43 PM

8. So should President Obama. But, I don't see him doing that on anything.

The GOP might be dead in your mind, but you now have two years to suck it up and deal with it.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Original post)

Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:23 PM

5. Blowhards

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Response to Gr8Daze (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:17 PM

11. Yep. More rational minds prevailed.

 

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Original post)

Thu Dec 11, 2014, 09:30 PM

7. The elimination of the Volcker rule is really stupid

I hope that this bill dies unless the volcker rule is restored

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 11, 2014, 09:45 PM

9. That's something that we both can agree on. I dont think the bill should die because of it though.

Shutting down the government every year is getting old. Let's pass an f'ing bill already.

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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 11, 2014, 09:50 PM

10. Derivatives are very risky

You can lose a great deal of money quickly in a hedge transaction and I hate to see the big banks get to use taxpayer insured funds to gamble

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:20 PM

12. Yep, another taxpayer bailout waiting to happen

And of course the banks pushed for it because taxpayer bailouts are now part of their damn business plans.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 12, 2014, 09:09 AM

13. I agree. You have the expertise in this area, so I'll bow to that knowledge. If I'm not mistaken,

it was these very same (toxic) derivatives that got us into trouble the last time, correct?

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Original post)

Fri Dec 12, 2014, 09:34 AM

14. Except, the people throwing the biggest fits about it passing

are NOT Republicans, but Democrats. Both in the House and the Senate those throwing up the roadblocks were Democrats: Pelosi gave a speech on the House floor that was full of angry vitriol and bile against it, while in the Senate Elizabeth Warren tried to talk her House colleagues into voting against it knowing a few Republicans would join them because they don't like the increased spending.

So, the laugh's on you, methinks.

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