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Wed Dec 17, 2014, 02:31 PM

Pope Francis helped secure Cuba deal

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Pope Francis was a central player in helping secure a historic deal between the Obama administration and Cuba to begin normalizing relations, a senior administration official said Wednesday.

In a letter sent to both President Obama and Cuban President Raúl Castro over the summer, Francis “personally issued an appeal” to both leaders to pursue a closer relationship.

The pope called on Cuba to “resolve” the case of Alan Gross, an American aid worker who had been jailed for five years after bringing telecommunications equipment to the island, and implored President Obama to release three Cubans convicted of spying on anti-Castro groups in Miami.

According to the senior administration official, the Pope's letter “gave us greater impetus and momentum for us to move forward” with preliminary talks first authorized by President Obama in 2013.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/227414-wh-pope-francis-helped-secure-cuba-deal

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LavenderGirl Dec 2014 OP
Satan Dec 2014 #1
Dexter Morgan Dec 2014 #2
cologeek Dec 2014 #3
Dexter Morgan Dec 2014 #4
Currentsitguy Dec 2014 #8
Dexter Morgan Dec 2014 #10
Currentsitguy Dec 2014 #11
LavenderGirl Dec 2014 #12
Currentsitguy Dec 2014 #14
cologeek Dec 2014 #9
LavenderGirl Dec 2014 #5
Dexter Morgan Dec 2014 #6
JacoBukowski Dec 2014 #7
Slayer Dec 2014 #13
Attila Gorilla Dec 2014 #15
frankt8242 Dec 2014 #16
i verglas Dec 2014 #17
Argentina Dec 2014 #18

Response to LavenderGirl (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 02:50 PM

1. "The Pope is a godless communist!11!!"

You know somebody's gonna say it.......

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Response to LavenderGirl (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 02:50 PM

2. " and implored Prepopesident Obama"..Whats a Prepop thingy...

BTW Obama can say whatever he wants congress can only pass a bill to drop the embargo...
As usual Obama is full of hot air ...
I will admit it looks good but means nothing....

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 02:57 PM

3. He can still open up diplomatic relations

And create an Ambassadors post even if Congress blocks any nominee to it. There is going to be strong opposition to this from the Cuban community, and with reason. But I think this is a necessary move to get Cuba back on the right track. We've kept up the embargo for over 50 years, the Soviet Union fell, and the Castro brothers are still there. Something different is called for.

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Response to cologeek (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:01 PM

4. Let us talk when the Castro brothers are dead...

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:12 PM

8. I suspect with Congressional opposition

that will end up being the practical end result anyways.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:24 PM

10. That would be nice,bypass the Castros and let people come and go...

No taxpayers money spent,let the free market play and keep the IMF the hell out of there....

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:46 PM

11. At this point

I don't see why not. The Castros are monsters running a monstrous government, although far less so today then in past. Nevertheless given our reconciliation with Vietnam, and the fact that eventually those two will be assuming room temperature sooner rather than later; that we should start preparing for the inevitable opening. Cuba is destined to be a Caribbean powerhouse, and I'd rather not let the rest of the world beat us to the punch. After all, they are our neighbors, and I'd like us to be good ones. Not that we should go all Hyman Roth on them.

Frankly i'm looking forward to the day I can fly down and rent one of these



and cruise around whilst smoking one of these

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 04:56 PM

12. You can now import $100 worth of Cuban cigars, rum legally

The pact allows licensed American travelers to import $400 worth of goods, but no more than $100 of which can be tobacco products or alcohol.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/you-can-now-import-100-worth-of-cuban-cigars-rum-legally-2014-12-17

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Response to LavenderGirl (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 05:34 PM

14. I hadn't realized that.

still $100 of Montecristo's or Cohiba's aren't going to get you very many. I should know, I just had a Montecristo Double Corona Friday night.

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:19 PM

9. I agree, it would be nice to wait for that.

But those old bastards are a perfect example of "the good die young".

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:04 PM

5. Thanks for pointing out the typo. It's been fixed. nt

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Response to LavenderGirl (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 03:06 PM

6. You are welcome and i gave you a little kick..

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Response to LavenderGirl (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 04:58 PM

13. Only a pope from Latin America could broker such a deal.

 

This guy is turning the religion on its ear.

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Response to LavenderGirl (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 06:40 PM

15. Good for him.

I like this pope.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 06:50 PM

16. I knew that once they named a pope...

 

After me, things would change!!

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Response to LavenderGirl (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:14 PM

17. well there goes the neighbourhood

 

I used to go to Cuba all the time quite a long time ago; haven't been in many years. But figured I'd get back again eventually.

Canada just lost our secret private holiday spot. (I stayed with friends, but Canadians have been the mainstay of the tourist industry there for decades.)

The damned Russian tourists were quite bad enough when I was there. Imagine the place overrun by USAmericans ...

But it's all good for Cubans, the victims of the ugly embargo for all these years just as they were of the ugly dictator and criminals the US installed to oppress them before that. So I will be of good grace about it.

Canada hosted the first and other Cuba-US talks about it all, of course.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/barack-obama-thanks-canada-for-hosting-cuba-u-s-meetings-1.2876173

which was actually a little more practically useful than the pope's contribution. It's a wonder the Cubans wanted anything to do with us these days.




Jimmy Carter and Fidel Castro
honorary pallbearers at the funeral
of Pierre Elliott Trudeau, Montreal,
October 2000

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Response to LavenderGirl (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:22 PM

18. Kudos to Pope Francis for helping normalize relations. The embargo against Cuba is a ridiculous

relic of the Cold War. America trades with other Communist countries--why not Cuba?

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