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Wed Jun 3, 2015, 06:09 AM

forget Benghazi: The cash donations Hillary simply has no answer for

While Clinton was secretary of state, her department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to Clinton Foundation donors. That figure from Clinton’s three full fiscal years in office is almost double the value of arms sales to those countries during the same period of President George W. Bush’s second term.

The Clinton-led State Department also authorized $151 billion of separate Pentagon-brokered deals for 16 of the countries that gave to the Clinton Foundation. That was a 143 percent increase in completed sales to those nations over the same time frame during the Bush administration. The 143 percent increase in U.S. arms sales to Clinton Foundation donors compares to an 80 percent increase in such sales to all countries over the same time period.

American military contractors and their affiliates that donated to the Clinton Foundation — and in some cases, helped finance speaking fees to Bill Clinton — also got in on the action. Those firms and their subsidiaries were listed as contractors in $163 billion worth of arms deals authorized by the Clinton State Department.

That year, the Algerian government donated $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation and the next year Clinton’s State Department approved a one-year 70 percent increase in military export authorizations to the country. The jump included authorizations for almost 50,000 items classified as “toxicological agents, including chemical agents, biological agents and associated equipment.” The State Department had not authorized the export of any of such items to Algeria the year before.

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/31/the_cash_donations_hillary_simply_has_no_answer_for_partner/

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Reply forget Benghazi: The cash donations Hillary simply has no answer for (Original post)
NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY Jun 2015 OP
JosephNobles Jun 2015 #1
NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY Jun 2015 #2
JosephNobles Jun 2015 #17
waltervink Jun 2015 #3
Supercalifragilistic Jun 2015 #5
waltervink Jun 2015 #6
NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY Jun 2015 #8
waltervink Jun 2015 #10
NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY Jun 2015 #12
waltervink Jun 2015 #13
NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY Jun 2015 #15
waltervink Jun 2015 #16
maxrobes3 Jun 2015 #18
waltervink Jun 2015 #20
Dexter Morgan Jun 2015 #4
shortviking Jun 2015 #7
NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY Jun 2015 #9
Dexter Morgan Jun 2015 #11
NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY Jun 2015 #14
Trevor Jun 2015 #21
NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY Jun 2015 #22
maxrobes3 Jun 2015 #19

Response to NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:05 AM

1. How much did they approve for non-donors?

$165 billion over three years seems low for foreign arms exports.

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Response to JosephNobles (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:26 PM

2. Don't know. How much corruption do you find acceptable?

Note that in the Pentagon deals described in the OP, 16 "favored" nations increased by 143%, while to all nations only 80%.

Also note the additional of chemical and biological weapons sales to Algeria. Even W didn't sink that low.

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Response to NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:24 PM

17. Oh, I wish you'd said this was a David Sirota article in the first place.

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Response to NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:30 PM

3. I don't see any candidates, D or R, running on a platform of making this type of thing illegal. n/t

 

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Response to waltervink (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:34 PM

5. Probably because bribing political officials already is illegal.

None of them are running on making murder illegal either.

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Response to Supercalifragilistic (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:37 PM

6. It's not illegal to make a donation to a charity

 

in exchange for getting government contracts or anything else.

It would be illegal and be considered a bribe if the money went right into the hands of the politician. It didn't for HRC, they paid money to a charity organization and, in return, good deeds, however small, are being done across the world with their money.

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Response to waltervink (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:54 PM

8. actually, they sortof did in the case of the deals where they immediately hired Bill to speak

for up to $650K per engagement.

And the original article does cite some of those deals.

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Response to NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:58 PM

10. Bill was not the Secretary of Defense, was he?

 

No, he was/is a private citizen.

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Response to waltervink (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:09 PM

12. the secretary of defense didn't approve the deals. The secretary of state, aka Bill's wife, did.

And just because the money was paid for him to talk doesn't mean it didn't end up in a joint account, you know.

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Response to NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:11 PM

13. Sorry, I meant Secretary of State.

 

Where it ends up isn't the problem. It's how it got there.

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Response to waltervink (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:13 PM

15. yeah. and how it got there has all the appearance of pay to play. nt

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Response to NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:14 PM

16. Yeah, and that's how it will always be in politics. n/t

 

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Response to waltervink (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 05:09 PM

18. Walter I can't believe you continue to defend this. It is unconscionable.

The day will come when Hillary is relegated to the dust bin of history and every one who defended this mess will be left wondering what the hell they were doing. It falls roughly in the same category as Repubs defending Bushes war in Iraq and his lies about WMD in the 2004 election, when all was clear but the loyalists just couldn't see it. Just my opinion.

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Response to maxrobes3 (Reply #18)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 05:36 PM

20. Why is it so unconscionable, in your opinion? n/t

 

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Response to NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY (Original post)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:31 PM

4. I find, that the more nasty stuff you find on Hillary the more libs want to support her...

To accept Hillary for what she is would mean liberals would have to deal with reality ,something they have no wish to do.

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:41 PM

7. Like quicksand. nt

 

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:56 PM

9. not necessarily. Many libs are turning to Bernie

for exactly this reason. We don't trust war-monger, corporatist Hillary and, unlike the GOP's Benghazi pretend-scandal, this one is backed by facts.

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Response to NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:00 PM

11. Bernie does not have a snowballs chance in hell,Bernie is their to make it look fair..

Hillary is a lock and when Bernie concedes,libs will line up behind Hillary.

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:13 PM

14. Bernie is their what? Bernie may or may not have a snowball's chance. Time will tell.

Climate change is screwing up the climate in hell, too, you know

And don't be so sure that libs or lefties will line up behind Hillary.

There are certain libertarian/GOP candidates this lib would vote for ahead of Hillary. Just give us somebody who isn't a total clown, please.

And many Bernie's supporters are really and truly done with "lesser of two evil" voting. Personally, I'm so done with it that if I'm not given a decent candidate, I'm not going to waste my time. I'll just vote up to senate level and write in a president choice.

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Response to NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:24 AM

21. What facts?

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Response to Trevor (Reply #21)

Fri Jun 5, 2015, 05:21 AM

22. those listed in the OP

http://www.vox.com/2015/4/28/8501643/Clinton-foundation-donors-State
The New York Times published a thorough report last week on the sale of uranium mines to a company connected to the Russian government by a group of Canadians who poured millions of dollars into the Clinton Foundation. The Washington Post, also working from Schweizer's research, reported that Bill Clinton collected $26 million in speaking fees from donors to the Clinton Foundation. And Newsweek reported that a company owned by Victor Pinchuk, one of the top donors to the Clinton Foundation, has shipped goods to Iran.

Public records alone reveal a nearly limitless supply of cozy relationships between the Clintons and companies with interests before the government.

The following chart shows entities that donated to the foundation and lobbied the State Department during Hillary Clinton's tenure. The totals include funding for the foundation from both corporate and charitable arms of listed companies that lobbied State, even though the charities themselves don't necessarily lobby. One exception: The Gates Foundation, co-chaired by Microsoft co-founder and board member Bill Gates, is not Microsoft's charitable arm (that's another group) and does not register to lobby. The chart does not account for contributions made by executives, and it may omit some companies who made contributions or lobbied through subsidiaries.
(chart is at the link. too gigantic to post here)



http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/foreign-governments-gave-millions-to-foundation-while-clinton-was-at-state-dept/2015/02/25/31937c1e-bc3f-11e4-8668-4e7ba8439ca6_story.html
The Washington Post reported last week that foreign sources, including governments, made up a third of those who have given the foundation more than $1 million over time. The Post found that the foundation, begun by former president Bill Clinton, has raised nearly $2 billion since its creation in 2001.

Foreign governments and individuals are prohibited from giving money to U.S. political candidates, to prevent outside influence over national leaders. But the foundation has given donors a way to potentially gain favor with the Clintons outside the traditional political limits.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-raised-nearly-2-billion-for-foundation-since-2001/2015/02/18/b8425d88-a7cd-11e4-a7c2-03d37af98440_story.html
And many of the foundation’s biggest donors are foreigners who are legally barred from giving to U.S. political candidates. A third of foundation donors who have given more than $1 million are foreign governments or other entities based outside the United States, and foreign donors make up more than half of those who have given more than $5 million.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/04/28/clinton-sinking-as-vox-yes-vox-continues-barrage-against-charity/
The size and scope of the symbiotic relationship between the Clintons and their donors is striking. At least 181 companies, individuals, and foreign governments that have given to the Clinton Foundation also lobbied the State Department when Hillary Clinton ran the place, according to a Vox analysis of foundation records and federal lobbying disclosures…

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 3, 2015, 05:10 PM

19. Not this Lib and lots of others are starting to see the light. It's about time. n/t

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