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Sun Jun 28, 2015, 11:00 AM

Gay marriage ruling a win for LGB, but transgender woes persist..

For marriage-equality activists, Friday's U.S. Supreme Court decision guaranteeing marriage rights for LGBT couples was an occasion for good cheer.
But even as the pink-label Champagne flowed and the sounds of a long-sought victory throbbed inside New York's historic Stonewall Inn, their transgender brothers and sisters marched on, chanting in the sun just blocks away.

Marriage equality is all well and good, Elliott Fukui said, but it was no time to party for dozens of trans activists. Not even close, he said.

"The battle for trans rights has been neglected by the mainstream LGB movement," said Fukui, program co-ordinator for the advocacy group TransJustice.
He noted that transgender people still face disproportionate amounts of violence, incarceration, discrimination and lack of access to affordable housing and good health care, compared to the rest of the LGB community.

Happy as he is for people in a position to have legally recognized same-sex unions, he said it's time to focus on the next rights battle — transgender equality and transphobia.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/gay-marriage-ruling-a-win-for-lgb-but-transgender-woes-persist-1.3130022

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Reply Gay marriage ruling a win for LGB, but transgender woes persist.. (Original post)
Dexter Morgan Jun 2015 OP
Phlegm Monger Jun 2015 #1
Dexter Morgan Jun 2015 #2
Phlegm Monger Jun 2015 #3
Valishin Jun 2015 #19
Phlegm Monger Jun 2015 #20
Frostlight Jun 2015 #5
Dexter Morgan Jun 2015 #6
Frostlight Jun 2015 #7
Dexter Morgan Jun 2015 #8
Frostlight Jun 2015 #9
Dexter Morgan Jun 2015 #10
Frostlight Jun 2015 #11
Dexter Morgan Jun 2015 #12
Frostlight Jun 2015 #13
Dexter Morgan Jun 2015 #14
USNRET1988 Jun 2015 #15
Argentina Jun 2015 #16
USNRET1988 Jun 2015 #18
Dexter Morgan Jun 2015 #17
Frostlight Jun 2015 #4

Response to Dexter Morgan (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 11:15 AM

1. Marriage equality is a HUGE win for Transgender people.

Many of those men and women have been denied the opportunity to marry because they were born in states that won't amend birth certificates.

Now that doesn't matter.

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Response to Phlegm Monger (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 12:31 PM

2. You are a man or a woman you cannot change it....Facts are pesky things..

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 12:34 PM

3. lol, whut?

Whoosh!

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Response to Phlegm Monger (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:48 PM

19. He isn't

wrong, gender is defined by DNA not body parts nor life choices.

Now once we can reprogram DNA then that will change things a bit.


With that said, all be be they straight, gay, trans, or whatever should all receive the same protection under the law and level of respect from authority. That does not mean however that anyone has a right to any level of respect beyond tolerance from other citizens. Its nice if we can get it but that doesn't mean we have a right to it.

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Response to Valishin (Reply #19)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:54 PM

20. My comment was on the effect of marriage equality for transgender people.

Not on "it's a man, baby" or arguments about dna.

So, yeah, his post had pretty much nothing to do with mine.

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 02:44 PM

5. And how was the SCOTUS ruling supposed to deal with that?

Seriously, this is a sad stretch even for you.

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Response to Frostlight (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 02:51 PM

6. Well these people who think they are somebody else have a right to get married as well..

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 02:58 PM

7. I know you're not going to understand this, but I'll say it anyway for the amusement of those

who do:

You don't realize that you just admitted how clueless you are about transgendered people, do you? See... they KNOW who they are. They are 'themselves', to themselves. They are only "somebody else" to those who don't know them. People like you, when you say things like you just said, are the ones who 'don't know'.

Sure, they struggle with who they are, but that is because of society telling them they are supposed to 'be somebody else'. Because you, like much of society, can't deal with or understand individualism that defies your narrow criteria. Your post is a tacit admission of exactly that.

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Response to Frostlight (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:00 PM

8. They could seek mental treatment could they not?

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:04 PM

9. Mental treatment for what?

Are you TRYING to stretch the 'being clueless' thing?

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Response to Frostlight (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:06 PM

10. A man imagining he is a woman,i would think is grounds for mental treatment..

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:09 PM

11. Of course you would think that.

"Because you, like much of society, can't deal with or understand individualism that defies your narrow criteria."

You've put your lack of imagination and understanding on display enough for one day, don't you 'think'?

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Response to Frostlight (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:13 PM

12. So if i imagine i am a horse would you respect my individualism?

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:18 PM

13. You've already proven you don't have that caliber

of imagination.

Meanwhile, we're talking about humans being humans and feeling like humans. Slippery slope fallacies and hyperbole don't apply.

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Response to Frostlight (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:20 PM

14. Is that a yes or a no?

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Response to USNRET1988 (Reply #15)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:28 PM

16. She isn't being delusional--she wants to be her true self.

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Response to USNRET1988 (Reply #15)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:28 PM

17. At one time it was, now we have accept this behaviour as the norm...

Thats why i enjoyed last week posting articles on the white woman who thought she was a black woman and see liberals defend her..LOL
When i was a kid i use to imagine i was a horse and gallop around the streets so glad my parents did not encourage it to much ,i might be wearing a saddle now,(not that their is anything wrong with that)....

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 02:44 PM

4. Ummm.... Newsflash: The ruling is about 'Marriage'.

This article is an exercise in irrelevance and clumsy conflation.

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