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Sun Oct 4, 2015, 09:04 AM

The NRA is the word. Literally it is the word. The word is BECAUSE

Why can't they get all guns and bullets off the street? BECAUSE they can't.

Why can't SCOTUS reinterpret Heller which itself was a reinterpretation? BECAUSE THEY CAN"T

Why can't the NRA be reclassified? BECAUSE they can't

Why can't anything be done so it never happens again? Because there can't

Why won't politicans do anything? Because the NRA says bravado bully like, it can't be done. Because
repeat
Why? Because

Why? Because

Why? Because

it's like a kid asking a parent who wants absolute power, the parent just says BECAUSE

The NRA is absolute power. Until the day it isn't
That kid grows up and questions the parent again and again and Because is no longer the answer

When the NRA asked why were the goned? Because because was no answer
Why are there no longer guns in the street? Because because was no answer

Some people ask why and are told BECAUSE

Some people ask why can't it and don't listen to the word BECAUSE

BECAUSE freedom is just another word to the NRA the NRA says BECAUSE

Freedom is realizing BECAUSE is no answer at all. There is always an answer and even if
there are a million BECAUSE, it's not the first BECAUSE, it's the last BECAUSE

BECAUSE is not the final answer.


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Reply The NRA is the word. Literally it is the word. The word is BECAUSE (Original post)
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Roger Cavu Oct 2015 #1
Juan Rico Oct 2015 #2
Da Mannn Oct 2015 #3
RATFINK_5.0 Oct 2015 #5
USNRET1988 Oct 2015 #4
ol geezer Oct 2015 #7
cologeek Oct 2015 #8
ol geezer Oct 2015 #18
.30M1 Oct 2015 #21
cologeek Oct 2015 #37
graham4anything4HC45 Oct 2015 #10
.30M1 Oct 2015 #22
ol geezer Oct 2015 #24
Da Mannn Oct 2015 #25
ol geezer Oct 2015 #27
Banshee 3 Actual Oct 2015 #39
.30M1 Oct 2015 #26
ol geezer Oct 2015 #28
.30M1 Oct 2015 #32
USNRET1988 Oct 2015 #36
kcci Oct 2015 #6
_eek Oct 2015 #19
Crazy D Oct 2015 #9
Da Mannn Oct 2015 #11
Crazy D Oct 2015 #12
Da Mannn Oct 2015 #13
Crazy D Oct 2015 #14
graham4anything4HC45 Oct 2015 #17
Hades Oct 2015 #15
ProLapse Oct 2015 #16
ol geezer Oct 2015 #23
ProLapse Oct 2015 #29
ol geezer Oct 2015 #30
ProLapse Oct 2015 #31
ol geezer Oct 2015 #34
ProLapse Oct 2015 #35
ol geezer Oct 2015 #42
ProLapse Oct 2015 #43
ol geezer Oct 2015 #44
ProLapse Oct 2015 #47
His Daughter Oct 2015 #33
.30M1 Oct 2015 #20
Banshee 3 Actual Oct 2015 #38
graham4anything4HC45 Oct 2015 #40
Banshee 3 Actual Oct 2015 #41
batcat Oct 2015 #45
DavesNotHere Oct 2015 #46


Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 09:08 AM

2. Dude.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 09:11 AM

3. .......................................#

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 09:15 AM

5. Dadudess .. Grease is the Word.



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Response to USNRET1988 (Reply #4)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 09:42 AM

7. Yes it can.

The NRA is the word and the NRA word of the NRA is 'because'.
Well 'because' is no longer good enough. Why? Too many innocent people are dying as if they were in a war zone controlled by ISIS. And they are. Only our ISIS are the followers of the NRA. Our NRA condones suicide shooters killing innocents "BECAUSE" mass shootings sells more guns, thereby making the problem worse.
The proof is in the NRA fighting any common sense weapons regulation that might work to fix the problem. The proof is in the NRA backing easier access by anyone to more guns by working at relaxing weapons laws in the states.
Being a lobby for the weapons manufacture, the NRA is OK with mass shooting, or any high profile shootings that sells more guns. That is the purpose of the NRA anyway, to sell more guns. And they are good at that, regardless of the cost in human life.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 09:49 AM

8. "Our ISIS are the followers of the NRA"

Do you really believe that? That NRA members (and by association all gun owners) are terrorists? That they condone and even desire mass shootings? Your post says so much more about you than it does any gun owner.

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Response to cologeek (Reply #8)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:36 AM

18. What are the NRA and the gunners doing to slow down or better yet stop the carnage?

Nothing that I can see. What I do see is rejoicing at the weakening of any gun regulation at the state level. That is not helping the situation because that only makes it easier for those that should not be having access to firearms in the first place to stock pile them. And so we are having an epidemic of mass shootings.
In other words what we are doing now is obviously not working and we should try something else. Something like more and better weapons regulation, not less.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #18)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:41 AM

21. What are we doing?

In case you haven't noticed, the latest FBI UCR (2014) shows another decline in homicides using a firearm, 8,124 vs 8,454 in 2013. Gun sales are still very strong too.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #18)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:15 PM

37. Maybe if you payed attention to the news you would see items like this.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/nra-backed-bill-aims-keep-guns-mentally-ill/

HARI SREENIVASAN, PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND ANCHOR: The mass shootings in Aurora, Tucson, Newtown and other cities have not led to stricter national gun laws or even tougher background checks, but a new proposal may change that. Texas Republican Senator John Cornyn is sponsoring a bill to help states better report people known to be mentally ill to the FBI database of individuals prohibited from buying guns.

Joining me now for more on this development is “Washington Post” reporter Mike DeBonis.

<snip>

HARI SREENIVASAN: So, what’s the likelihood of this piece of legislation making it to the floor?

MIKE DEBONIS: Well, it has a lot going for it. Number one, the fact that the NRA isn’t opposing it. It, in fact, appears to be endorsing it.

And of course there's this from a few years ago,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/21/the-nra-wants-an-active-mental-illness-database-thirty-eight-states-have-that-now/

In his Friday morning news conference, National Rifle Association chief executive Wayne LaPierre floated the idea of a national registry of the mentally ill as one way to stem gun violence.

<snip>

The Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits gun sales to individuals who have been committed to a mental institution or "adjudicated as a mental defective."

"The federal law pretty much says that anyone who has been involuntarily committed or anyone who has been determined by a court to be a danger to themselves or others, those two categories are prohibited from possessing firearms," says Lindsay Nichols, an attorney with the Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

That prohibition stands today but is pretty difficult to enforce, partially due to the issue LaPierre mentioned: Reporting on mental health status is incomplete, with a hodgepodge of state laws that specify what information does, or does not, go into the federal background check system.

That's just a quick look through Google for that info. You should broaden your horizons and not just get your news from Kos, DU, and cable comedians.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 09:53 AM

10. 100%

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:43 AM

22. Mass shootings don't sell more guns.

Ignorant cries for gun-control do.

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Response to .30M1 (Reply #22)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:47 AM

24. The why do gun sales go up after each mass shooting?

You are one of those that has said so.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #24)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:49 AM

25. because gun grabbers dance upon the dead to further an agenda

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #25)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:59 AM

27. Because we want to stop more people from being needlessly dead.

Private gun collections should not be more important than people's lives.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #27)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:22 PM

39. Between 2001-2013- 501,762 americans have died in Auto accidents

316,545 by guns same time frame.

unless you walk, or ride a bike everywhere you are hypocrital.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #24)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:51 AM

26. They go up because of people like you immediately politicize the tragedy.

Calls for immediate gun-control means more sales. It's a lesson you keep falling to learn.

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Response to .30M1 (Reply #26)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:01 AM

28. Because our high gun deaths is a political problem.

The NRA has bought enough state legislators and congress critters to make it so.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #28)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:18 AM

32. Our gun death rate is declining.

Numbers don't support your fact-devoid rhetoric.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 09:28 AM

6. What the hell?

 

"Kids grow up, ergo, ipso facto, concordantly gun bans and innocent people lose rights....BECAUSE"

I can honestly say; I can't argue with that logic.

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Response to kcci (Reply #6)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:36 AM

19. for once I agree with you

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 09:50 AM

9. wrong and whinning as usual Grahamforcrackers, this is the word

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:01 AM

11. When there is no coherent argument, TOSS A WORD SALAD!

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #11)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:09 AM

12. Excuse me sir.....would you like the house dressing with that salad

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #12)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:11 AM

13. With a side of crazy please.

and please sprinkle the 528 electoral votes for Hillary on top!

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #13)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:12 AM

14. Coming right up.....as to that side of crazy

We'll be using this to serve it

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #14)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:22 AM

17. the truck is the NRA. Big microphone. and nothing else but the same tired stale soundbytes

Read every comment section anywhere

all are word for word responses with different names all anonymous attached

With the 10 same soundbytes saying nothing more than
Blah Blah Blah but saying it in a oration that makes people think they are saying more than they are,
because

if 100 people all NRA write the same thing, it seems like a lot of people.

The reason the NRA won in the past, was, anyone of the small number who is the NRA has guns as their core issue.

Most Americans have many things that dilute which is is #1

that is an advantage for the NRA.

However, it is in the end, the disadvantage it will become.

Because people are smarter than the NRA thinks

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:17 AM

15. I thought the bird was the word.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:22 AM

16. Because you don't get to take my rights away.

 

Welcome to America.

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Response to ProLapse (Reply #16)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:45 AM

23. When your Rights are interfering with the Right of others, it is time to reexamine your Rights.

What about the Right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness? It is kind of hard to pursue any of that when they are dead because of your "Rights".

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #23)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:01 AM

29. They are dead because some guy killed them.

 

If he got drunk and ran them over with his truck would you be calling for me to lose my right to drive or have alcohol in my home? The price of liberty is that some stupid is always going to abuse it. I'll take that chance when I'm out in the world as opposed to becoming a sheep without any rights except the right to believe the govt is "keeping me safe".

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Response to ProLapse (Reply #29)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:05 AM

30. A good guy carrying a deadly weapon in public decides to become a bad guy carrying a deadly weapon.

They are dead because a gun lover killed them.
Your "Rights" do not superseded the Right of others.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #30)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:09 AM

31. My rights didn't kill those people.

 

Since this person was a lunatic criminal do you really think he would care about gun laws when planning his murdering spree? You're letting your emotions do the thinking. The murderer only shot himself when other guns appeared on the scene. Think about it.

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Response to ProLapse (Reply #31)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:25 AM

34. I have thought about it.

He had easy access to many types of firearms. That right there is a problem, proven by each and every mass shooting. This man was not a lunatic until he started shooting. He was a law abiding citizen, no different than many other gunners collecting arsenals.
What do people need so many military styled weapons for? Self defense is a non-starter because actual need for a firearm for self defense is rare. Those weapons are more likely to kill friends and loved ones. There is something else going on here.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #34)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:36 AM

35. I've heard he went to a school for the mentally ill.

 

Long before this shooting. His mom should be arrested for making the guns available to him when she knew he was nutso.

"Self defense is a non-starter because actual need for a firearm for self defense is rare."

Seems like those dead people had an actual need to me. Shame that the "gun-free" zone killed them.

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Response to ProLapse (Reply #35)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:50 PM

42. And yet there were guns left behind by some of the students.

That fact was in a news story.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #42)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:52 PM

43. Magical thinking isn't going to help.

 

It is magical thinking to say that this guy would have been deterred by any law.

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Response to ProLapse (Reply #43)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:59 PM

44. Did you read my post before responding.

I said guns were left behind by some students. The school was looking to return them. It was a news item.

So why didn't any of these armed student try to be a hero and take out the shooter? That's the fantasy for being armed on campus isn't it?

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #44)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 02:18 PM

47. They were probably afraid of what would happen to them.

 

I haven't seen the story and you didn't bother to link it. Were the guns legal? If they were in a gun free zone probably not. Big daddy govt can't cure everything with more laws.

"That's the fantasy for being armed on campus isn't it?" When one side of a discussion starts ascribing fantasies to the other the discussion is usually over. You can have the last word. I'm still not giving you my rights. You say certain things are a "non-starter" but I ask you what right you have to dictate the terms to someone you want something from?

You: Lend me $100.
Me: Not until you give up the crack.
You: That is totally a non-starter!
Me: Bye Felicia!

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #23)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:19 AM

33. Wrong document and actually not enumerated rights.

The right to privacy and from it the rights of women to control their bodies is in the penumbra of the constitution according to SCOTUS. but it is not an enumerated right.

Firearms are an enumerated right.

I support both quite strongly and they are not inherently in conflict.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:36 AM

20. NRA living in your head.

Hope you have room for the Second Amendment Foundation too.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:18 PM

38. What part of Constitutional right are YOU incapable of comprehending?

We will not give up that right

We will fight to keep our rights

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #38)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:26 PM

40. There is no we. The NRA is just not viable in the new world. The curtain has been exposed.

It was a long run a long reign and then
poof
fade to

fin




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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #40)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:40 PM

41. There is definitely a we

The NRA
Gun Owners
Those who believe in the US Constitution and individual freedoms
The Courts
The legislature
The majority of America

YMMV

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 02:07 PM

45. The five million members of the NRA are nowhere near as powerful as the eighty million gun owners ..

and the voting age members of their families.

Gun control advocates have tried for more that 40 years to get gun control legislation passed that would be similar to the gun laws in Great Britain. Elected politicians realize that by voting for such legislation they are putting their jobs on the line. Gun owners will show up at the polls to vote them out of office.

I realize that after four decades of failure it helps to find someone to blame and of course the NRA fits the bill. It is not wise to call voters stupid because they don't buy into your agenda.

We will see what the results of the next election will be. I don't think that pissing off a large block of voters like the gun owners of our nation is all that smart. I predict that while Democrats will do fine in the big liberal cities they will lose big in the more conservative areas. In the end run there will be more Republicans in office after the election at the local, state and national levels. That's because the Democratic Party is now known as The Gun Control Party.

Perhaps after the next election the Democratic Party will finally give up on trying to ban guns and instead sit down with Republicans and people from organizations like the NRA and try to find real solutions to gun violence in our nation.

Time will tell.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 02:17 PM

46. Why can't the government confiscate all the guns,

Reinterpret the constitution to mean the opposite of what was written and reclassify a rights group to try to shut down freedom of speech?

Sounds like "freedom" is just another word to you, too.

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