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Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:54 PM

Correction, Bernie: DEMOCRATS are tired of hearing about the e-mails

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Much of the country thinks it is a legitimate subject of discussion and concern.

I can understand why Democratic Party voters would like to stop hearing about it, and why Hillary would like it swept under the rug.

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Reply Correction, Bernie: DEMOCRATS are tired of hearing about the e-mails (Original post)
The Center Holds Oct 2015 OP
Runner Dude Oct 2015 #1
The Center Holds Oct 2015 #2
USNRET1988 Oct 2015 #5
Let it go Oct 2015 #17
The Center Holds Oct 2015 #3
rahtruelies Oct 2015 #8
misanthroptimist Oct 2015 #11
batcat Oct 2015 #13
Let it go Oct 2015 #18
graham4anything4HC45 Oct 2015 #4
The Center Holds Oct 2015 #6
graham4anything4HC45 Oct 2015 #7
The Center Holds Oct 2015 #9
Let it go Oct 2015 #19
Dukota01 Oct 2015 #28
KittyCatIdiots Oct 2015 #10
Letmypeoplevote Oct 2015 #12
The Center Holds Oct 2015 #22
JoePolitics Oct 2015 #14
The Center Holds Oct 2015 #23
JoePolitics Oct 2015 #24
The Center Holds Oct 2015 #26
Dukota01 Oct 2015 #29
JoePolitics Oct 2015 #32
Dukota01 Oct 2015 #36
Letmypeoplevote Oct 2015 #15
The Center Holds Oct 2015 #21
JoePolitics Oct 2015 #27
Letmypeoplevote Oct 2015 #31
Dukota01 Oct 2015 #30
Sheherazade Oct 2015 #16
Let it go Oct 2015 #20
RonaldusMaximus Oct 2015 #25
steelysunshine Oct 2015 #33
brew9876 Oct 2015 #42
steelysunshine Oct 2015 #44
brew9876 Oct 2015 #45
steelysunshine Oct 2015 #46
Rephleshed Oct 2015 #34
Immacolata Oct 2015 #35
meanitt Oct 2015 #37
The Center Holds Oct 2015 #38
meanitt Oct 2015 #39
brew9876 Oct 2015 #43
meanitt Oct 2015 #47
Letmypeoplevote Oct 2015 #40
The Center Holds Oct 2015 #41

Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:56 PM

1. Normal people know what it is. I'll give you a hint.......

Witch hunt!

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Response to Runner Dude (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:57 PM

2. You called her a witch, not me.

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Response to Runner Dude (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:05 PM

17. Heehee. Good one.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:58 PM

3. Do you think Hillary did anything wrong with her e-mails?

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=1484


The Independent vote doesn't look good here.

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Response to The Center Holds (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:37 PM

8. She viloated the security laws to the extent that anyone else would be on their way to hard federal

prison time

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Response to rahtruelies (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 07:28 PM

11. So call a cop.

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Response to rahtruelies (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 07:47 PM

13. It must be nice to be one of the elite few in our nation who are totally above the law. ...

Her unauthorized and improperly secured server was undoubtedly hacked by the Russians, the Chinese, the Iranians, the Germans and the Israelis. This might well be one of the largest security breaches our nation has ever suffered.

Hillary believes she is above the law and I suspect she is right. At the most some flunky at the State Department or one of Hillary's aides will have to take the fall for Hillary. Hillary is too big to fail, just like the banks she represents.

Hillary's email scandal has revealed a number of interesting personality traits about Hillary to me. First, she is excessively paranoid as otherwise she would have no reason to hide her email on a dark server. Second, she is deceitful. Third she is irresponsible. Fourth she is incompetent as the security on her server could have been hacked by a teenager.

AP Exclusive: Clinton email server setup risked intrusions
By JACK GILLUM and STEPHEN BRAUN
Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - The private email server running in Hillary Rodham Clinton's home basement when she was secretary of state was connected to the Internet in ways that made it more vulnerable to hackers while using software that could have been exploited, according to data and documents reviewed by The Associated Press.

Clinton's server, which handled her personal and State Department correspondence, appeared to allow users to connect openly over the Internet to control it remotely, according to detailed records compiled in 2012. Experts said the Microsoft remote desktop service wasn't intended for such use without additional protective measures, and was the subject of U.S. government and industry warnings at the time over attacks from even low-skilled intruders.(...emphasis added)
Read more: http://www.cbs46.com/story/30245495/ap-exclusive-clinton-email-server-setup-risked-intrusions#ixzz3oaXdrMco


I have no interest in allowing anyone with such character deficiencies to run our nation. Hillary reminds me of "Tricky Dick" Nixon. While I would have no problem voting for a woman as president, I refuse to vote for a Nixon in a pantsuit.

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Response to The Center Holds (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:06 PM

18. Democrats don't give a rats ass about anything but grabbing OPP.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:10 PM

4. the answer is simple- Fox and Rush and Sean and Beck didn't show McCarthy admitting it was a sham

witchhunt, so the Republican media didn't tell the Republicans it was a smear campaign.

Once word eventually gets out even the Republicans will know.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:20 PM

6. This is about how she had a private unsecured e-mail server, not about Benghazi.

And you need to be concerned about Independents, not Republicans.

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Response to The Center Holds (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:30 PM

7. I am not concerned whatsoever. Hillary will crush Jeb Bush in the general election


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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 07:03 PM

9. I don't think Bush has a chance. Nobody likes him.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:07 PM

19. FBI says you're wrong.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:48 PM

28. Then why is the FBI investigating?

Did they suddenly become and arm of the GOP, under the Obama justice dept?

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 07:15 PM

10. and she thinks Snowden should stand trial, lol

 

Laws only apply to others

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 07:29 PM

12. For this thread

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:41 PM

22. We're talking e-mails, NOT Benghazi.

I'm an Independent, and the whole e-mail thing looks bad.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 07:50 PM

14. The RW talks about it ...

... because they have no real issues to discuss.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:42 PM

23. I'm not RW, and I think it IS an issue--an issue of judgment and character.YMMV.

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Response to The Center Holds (Reply #23)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:44 PM

24. Why?

You think her email should have been on the same government server that had 4.5 million finger prints stolen?

Or maybe the server Chelsea Manning leaked info from?

Or the one Snowden leaked info from?

This is yet another RW scandal in which nothing actually happened.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:46 PM

26. Yes, I do.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:51 PM

29. Chelsea Clinton or Bradley manning

Or maybe Bradley cooper and Peyton manning.

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Response to Dukota01 (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:56 PM

32. Chelsea Manning.

Try to keep up.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #32)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 05:32 PM

36. Bradley manning

He will always be a he, even if you want to call him a turnip.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 07:50 PM

15. The House Benghazi investigation is now thoroughly discredited as a partisan sham.

The Benghazi committee is now a joke. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/10/the_house_benghazi_investigation_is_partisan_sham_the_gop_committee_investigating.html

This weekend, another shoe dropped for the Benghazi committee. “A former investigator for the House Select Committee on Benghazi says he was unlawfully fired in part because he sought to conduct a comprehensive probe into deadly attacks on the U.S. compound instead of focusing on Hillary Rodham Clinton and the State Department,” reported the Associated Press.

The New York Times followed with a major story that detailed the degree to which “the focus of the committee’s work has shifted from the circumstances surrounding the Benghazi attack to the politically charged issue of Mrs. Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state.” What’s more, according to the Times, this was a particular preoccupation for Boehner, who pushed the committee to focus on Clinton’s emails.

said that at one point this spring he told John A. Boehner, the House speaker, that he feared the task of investigating the email issue would distract from his committee’s work… pressed Mr. Boehner to have another House committee examine the matter of Mrs. Clinton’s emails, but that Mr. Boehner had rejected the request.

… Senior Republican officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were discussing confidential conversations, said that Mr. Boehner had long been suspicious of the administration’s handling of the attacks and that Mrs. Clinton’s emails gave him a way to keep the issue alive and to cause political problems for her campaign. But he thought that the task was too delicate to entrust to others and that it should remain with Mr. Gowdy, the former prosecutor.
At this point, the House Select Committee on Benghazi is a dead letter. Democrats will dismiss it entirely, Hillary Clinton—in her upcoming testimony—will likely treat it with contempt, and the media will disregard its claims. Indeed, there’s a chance this could spread beyond the committee to Clinton’s email controversy.

For all the noise over her server, there’s been no evidence of wrongdoing or legal misconduct in Clinton’s emails. And President Obama has challenged the idea that Clinton harmed national security by using a private system. Barring genuine revelations, the collapse of the Benghazi committee might create skepticism around future email releases. In other words, it could kill the story or at least make it less critical to Clinton coverage.
The NYT did a great job of verifying and documenting the fact that his committee is a sham and a fraud. Howdy Gowdy should resign in disgrace

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:40 PM

21. Why is everybody changing the subject to Benghazi?

Benghazi is NOT the same as the e-mails.

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Response to The Center Holds (Reply #21)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:47 PM

27. Then why are the emails the only thing the Benghazi committee has been investigating??

For the GOP, its all the same thing ... Whitewater, travelgate, and on and on ... and what did that find ... a BJ!

Now ... Benghazi committee holds 8 separate investigations, finds nothing ... and now sifts through emails.

Why?

Because the GOP does not do governance. This is just a way for them to look busy.

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Response to The Center Holds (Reply #21)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:55 PM

31. Read the NYT article on the whistle blower

The NYT did a great job of documenting the claims of the whistle blower with a ton of facts and documents. Some of these facts point right to Boehner http://crooksandliars.com/2015/10/nyt-story-implicates-boehner-benghazi

A shocker from "the paper of record" that seems to have had it in for the Clintons since the early 1990s: accusations by a former House Select Committee on Benghazi investigator that the probe had become a partisan, likely intentionally protracted witch-hunt targeting presidential candidate Hillary Clinton have made their online front page:

Now, 17 months - longer than the Watergate investigation lasted - interviews with current and former committee staff members as well as internal committee documents reviewed by The New York Times show the extent to which the focus of the committee's work has shifted from the circumstances surrounding the Benghazi attack to the politically charged issue of Mrs. Clinton's use of a private email server while she was secretary of state. ...

Bradley F. Podliska, an Air Force Reserve officer who began working for the Republican staff of the committee in September 2014 but has since been fired, said in an interview that the panel changed its focus this spring, shortly after staff members learned that Mrs. Clinton had exclusively used a private email account as secretary of state, including during the Benghazi attacks. The committee dismissed Major Podliska in June, and he has said he plans to file a complaint in federal court about his termination.

Major Podliska described an odd encounter with one of his bosses in April.

"Keep your head down," Major Podliska said, recalling what Christopher Donesa, the committee's deputy staff director, had told him after praising his progress. Mr. Donesa paused for a moment, according to Major Podliska, then added, "This is taking a turn."

Major Podliska said the committee was becoming focused primarily on the State Department, and in particular on Mrs. Clinton.

Republican staff members said Major Podliska had been dismissed in part because he had demonstrated "improper partiality and animus in his investigative work" toward Mrs. Clinton and had mishandled classified material, which Major Podliska disputes.

But for months, documents and interviews show, the work of the Benghazi committee has been affected by delays and dysfunction.

The process of setting up an electronic system to manage more than 50,000 pages of documents that the committee has assembled is still not complete, meaning that staff members sometimes have to search through boxes to find critical pieces of paper - an almost comical task, staff members said.

They have spent months sparring with Obama administration agencies trying to get documents, eating up time the committee had planned to use investigating the attacks.

With the slow progress, members have engaged in social activities like a wine club nicknamed "Wine Wednesdays," drinking from glasses imprinted with the words "Glacial Pace," a dig at Representative Elijah E. Cummings, Democrat of Maryland and the committee's ranking member, Major Podliska said. Mr. Cummings used the term to question the speed of the committee's work.

Oh, and there's this, buried deep in the article, implicating Boehner in the dirty tricks:

Senior Republican officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were discussing confidential conversations, said that Boehner had long been suspicious of the administration's handling of the attacks and that Mrs. Clinton's emails gave him a way to keep the issue alive and to cause political problems for her campaign. But he thought that the task was too delicate to entrust to others and that it should remain with Mr. Gowdy, the former prosecutor.
The NYT documented all of the charges made by the Whistle Blower with facts. The conservatives need to read the NYT story or have someone else read it and explain it to them

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:52 PM

30. According to you and slate and every other left wing rag

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 07:54 PM

16. It's important to me because it was strategically stupid

She knew that she would be making another run for office, yet she did something that if she were at all in touch with real people would know wouldn't pass the smell test. She should have handed over the server immediately when she was questioned. She put herself at risk and it would have been so much simpler if she used two different servers.

I work for a government agency and all my official business is done on the government e-mail. My personal stuff is on gmail or hotmail etc.

It's the way she dealt with it that gets me riled.

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Response to Sheherazade (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:13 PM

20. I couldn't do what she did. Everyone with a job knows more about how to handle email than Hillary.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:45 PM

25. It's like a liberal standing up and saying "The people don't care about selling baby body parts"

 

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 02:13 AM

33. It's true Democrats care more about real issues rather than bad optics or some scandal.

Hillary fails on the issues her email scandal doesn't help matters, but doesn't matter to me because I am not supporting her in the first place. Now, when Republicans go on and on about this non issue I feel compelled to defend her at least weakly, waving my hand saying I am tired of it when I don't really know much about it since I pay very little attention to the issue because I don't frackin care.

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Response to steelysunshine (Reply #33)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:02 PM

42. Like bridgegate...right?

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Response to brew9876 (Reply #42)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:09 PM

44. Like what?

Was that something that happened in the 70's?

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Response to steelysunshine (Reply #44)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 11:07 PM

45. Short term memory loss? Sorry about that.

Hope you get better soon.

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Response to brew9876 (Reply #45)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:45 AM

46. I hope you get over that CT problem.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 02:18 AM

34. I'm tired of it because its a non-story. Hillary didn't break any laws.

And I am not big on Hillary. I'm a Bernie guy. I honestly wish we could just keep Obama. But, really there is nothing to the Benghazi investigations and nothing to Hillary's email system that is all that significant.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:19 AM

35. See, we've all seen this before.

Vince Foster. Whitewater. Benghazi. Now emails.

Nothing is going to happen. Republicans are going to make a lot of noise and stamp their feet and wail and NOTHING will happen.

That boy cried wolf too many times. It's a non-issue.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 05:42 PM

37. Are you Cons STILL talking about those sham investigations

 

where a 3rd Republican has now come out and said that they are nothing but a partisan witch hunt?

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Response to meanitt (Reply #37)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 06:27 PM

38. A. Not a Con. B. You are about the 5th Hillary-acolyte to conflate Benghazi with her e-mails.

They are not the same thing. There is a reason the FBI is investigating the e-mail server issue.

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Response to The Center Holds (Reply #38)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 06:51 PM

39. I never said Benghazi at all.

 

I said "investigations", which encompasses both Benghazi and the e-mail nonsense.

And I also haven't declared alleigence to any candidate for that matter.

Ken Starr had the FBI running all over the country to investigate a blow job and any other Clinton accusation he could think of, so the FBI investigating Hillary's e-mails now is no big deal nor is it surprising, except to those who want it to be.

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Response to meanitt (Reply #37)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:03 PM

43. Bridgegate....oh the hypocrisy

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Response to brew9876 (Reply #43)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:27 AM

47. There's been actual indictments in Bridgegate.

 

But I have heard that Hillary is actually behind bars and in an orange suit somewhere in Conservative fantasy land.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 07:12 PM

40. For this thread

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #40)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 08:53 PM

41. For the umpteenth time, this has nothing to do with Benghazi.

Deflection and misdirection don't work here.

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