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Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:09 AM

In wake of Colorado shooting, Obama calls for more gun control

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/28/in-wake-of-colorado-shooting-obama-calls-for-more-gun-controls/

President Obama on Saturday called for additional gun control measures in the United States, after the slaying of three people Friday at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado. In a written statement, Obama said that regardless of the motive, it was unacceptable that these sort of mass shootings happen so frequently in the United States.

"This is not normal. We can’t let it become normal," he said. "If we truly care about this — if we’re going to offer up our thoughts and prayers again, for God knows how many times, with a truly clean conscience — then we have to do something about the easy accessibility of weapons of war on our streets to people who have no business wielding them. Period. Enough is enough."

Administration officials have been scrutinizing whether they can undertake additional gun controls through executive action, but no proposals have yet to be finalized. The leading proposal would impose new background-check requirements for buyers who purchase weapons from high-volume gun dealers.

Two weeks ago, Obama told HBO's Bill Simmons that any forthcoming proposals are still undergoing legal review. "There are maybe a few more that had to be scrubbed by lawyers because essentially, with every executive action, we can count on it being challenged by somebody in Congress or, in this case, the NRA. We want to make any executive action we take as defensible as possible legally."

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Reply In wake of Colorado shooting, Obama calls for more gun control (Original post)
Juan Rico Nov 2015 OP
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Cardinals1982 Nov 2015 #4
Juan Rico Nov 2015 #5
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Juan Rico Nov 2015 #9
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Dukota01 Nov 2015 #61
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JoePolitics Nov 2015 #20
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Response to Juan Rico (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:12 AM

1. God Forbid he lets the corpses go into rigor mortis first

truly a craven man....

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Response to Juan Rico (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:26 AM

4. As he should. Every Single Time!

 

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:30 AM

5. And Congress will continue to protect gun rights. As they should. Every Single Time!

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Response to Juan Rico (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:32 AM

6. They are protecting gun manufacturers

 

It is hilarious you think Congress cares about your rights.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:35 AM

9. They certainly have protected gun manufacturers from frivilous lawsuits. Good for them.

They've also refused to pass bills banning "assault" weapons and "high" capacity magazines. They've declined to pass Universal Background Checks. That protects my (and your) rights.

Again...good for them.

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Response to Juan Rico (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:38 AM

11. You are the beneficiary of what economists call spillover benefits

 

Congress could care less if civil rights of Americans are violated. It just so happens they are afraid of terrorist organizations like the NRA and will protect gun manufacturers at any cost to human life.

The fact that you and your buddies get to keep stockpiling weapons is merely a tangential issue.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:50 AM

19. Show a federal ruling that the NRA is a Terrorist Organization or slink....

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:55 AM

23. That seems to be your favored line of attack these days

 

But I notice it is unevenly applied. When your buddies label Black Lives Matter as terrorists, I don't see you demanding they provide a link to a federal ruling.

The NRA repeatedly uses threat of political death to terrorize politicians. Because they've bamboozled so many Americans into thinking they, the NRA, are there to protect American comstitutional rights, they can shut down any actions that might curb rampant gun violence and are actually helping push new laws around open carry and stand your ground which actually throw gasoline on the fire.

They are terrorists.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #23)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:59 AM

26. Yes, using facts is a great line of attack against posts like yours. Again got any facts?

And I did say BLM was NOT a Terrorist group-

BLM is by definition a racist group

Again where is your facts? where is your source showing the federal government of the United States of America has declared the NRA a Terrorist Organization?

Link

or

Slink

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #26)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:03 PM

28. Your reframing of the issue is your own personal business

 

Be prepared to wait a very long time for me to answer your moving goal post questions.

They are terrorists and ahould be treatd as such.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #28)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:07 PM

29. did you just say that I should be killed?

Because I am pretty sure that is what you just said.

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Response to Sam (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:10 PM

30. No I did not. Perhaps you should read what was actually written

 

Instead of making things up.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #30)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:18 PM

34. you said they are terrorists

And should be treated as such. I am a member of the NRA so you just called me a terrorist. As far as I can tell most terrorists are killed, so when you say I should be treated as such I can only assume you want me dead.

I would be glad to hear your explanation of what you really ment by that.

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Response to Sam (Reply #34)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:25 PM

41. You are right, this poster just advocated Murdering NRA members as terrorists

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #41)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:37 PM

44. that is all we can assume.

He hasn't bothered to explain what he really ment or retract his statement.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #28)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:16 PM

33. So again that answer is "NO I made it up in my imagination but Nyah Nyah" As I expected

Prove the NRA is a Terrorist organization or slink away

All you need is 1 Federal ruling from DOJ or even an executive order from the POTUS

But you cant

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #33)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:37 PM

61. He did slink away...back to timeout.

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Response to Dukota01 (Reply #61)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:44 PM

62. At least he's consistent

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #23)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:41 PM

46. "The NRA repeatedly uses threat of political death to terrorize politicians"

which is 100% legit.

What is not legit is threatening actual bodily harm and murder as so many pets of the Left do daily.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #23)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:04 AM

73. threatening not to support or to stand against a politician is not terrorism

that is one of your personalities wildest fantasies. Please get all of them under control and returned to something that resembles normal thought processes.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:04 PM

52. Congress could care less if civil rights of Americans are violated.

On this we agree

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:31 PM

70. So...Congress protects gun manufacturers from frivolous lawsuits (which is good),

and also protects my right to keep and bear arms (which is also good).

And that's....bad?

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:49 AM

18. If a Drunk runs over your wife, do you sue Ford?

Gun Manufacturers get sued for negligent designs and faults all the time.

They should not be sued over what someone does with a legal product in an illegal manner

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:41 PM

58. The thing about this.

I don't care for whom they're doing it. As long as they continue to vote against restrictions and for expanding gun use and ownership, I'm happy. Currently, the goals of gun owners and those of the industry are aligned.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:33 AM

72. It's hilarious you think he even knows you are alive

Or could give 2shits about you or yours.
His loved ones have a screen of armed men.

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Response to Juan Rico (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:33 AM

7. I still say the democratic party should make repealing the 2nd part of the platform 2016

If it's such a popular thing embrace it and run on that and 100% total gun confiscation like Cankles has mentioned....

It's a sure fire winner

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:36 AM

10. Yup. Bring it! We'll see which side wins.

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Response to Juan Rico (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:40 AM

13. They keep saying God and the American people are on their side

Let's play for all the marbles and see what happens. How has the Democratic party been faring since gun control became a issue again?

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:33 AM

8. why?

Do you have evidence of any of his proposed measures working when they were tried in the past?

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Response to Sam (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:39 AM

12. Yep. Australia.

 

Checkmate.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:48 AM

17. Oh so you are going past regulation

Straight to confiscation, next you are going to claim I am paranoid and that nobody wants to take my guns.

Let's see those numbers from Australia, what were the rates prior to the confiscation and after. How do they compare to the rest of the world during the same time period?
What kind of results would we see here if we implemented Australian style confiscation?
If you are going to claim checkmate you better be able to prove it.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:54 AM

21. You're playing checkers when the game is chess

Australia STILL has Guns

Monash University shooting 21 October 2002

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:20 PM

37. i was going to say tic tac toe myself

Checkers is still too complicated for most grabbers to get a handle on

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:44 PM

47. Crime in Australia is far worse than it was 20 years ago

Aside from THAT, yes the State organised black op mass murder at Port Arthur worked perfectly to stampede the sheeple.

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Response to rahtruelies (Reply #47)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:08 PM

51. Violent crime is worse? Vandalism is worse?

 

Certainly not homicides. Those have fallen sharply. Link or slink.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #51)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:11 AM

74. Since Australia confiscated guns, murder in the USA has dropped 40% without repealing rights.

 

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:47 AM

15. Constitutional right, something he and you apparently don't comprehend

Please tell me with the information we know right now how any law Obama Proposes would have prevented this?

Specifically now...

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:47 AM

16. Gun sales increase every time he says something about it.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:32 PM

54. The left just finished mocking the right...

...for "bed wetting" themselves over Muslims and refugees over a terrorist attack? Looks like the left is now bed wetting themselves over the 2nd Amendment, because of a terrorist attack. "Ooh scary gun owners, we need more gun control!"

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Response to Hades (Reply #54)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:34 PM

55. Ironically pointing out your hypocrisy

 

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Response to Hades (Reply #54)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:15 AM

75. Both are idiotic attempts to blame and curtail the rights of innocent members of groups

 

for the murderous actions of individuals.

Idiotic, authoritarian and unAmerican in both cases.

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Response to Juan Rico (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:42 AM

14. When your only tool is a hammer, pretty much everything looks like nails.

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Response to Juan Rico (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:50 AM

20. Clearly he should be more concerned about the scary refugees.

Why spend anytime on an actual domestic terrorist like this guy.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:55 AM

22. Refujihadis killed 120 people last week

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #22)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:57 AM

24. Not in America they didn't.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:11 PM

31. Why do think that was?

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Response to Jardinier (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:20 PM

36. Becuase extremist RW terrorism in the US ...

... is far more dangerous to actual Americans.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #36)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:25 PM

40. We had a misunderstanding

I was asking why Refujihadis hadn't killed 120 in America.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:14 PM

32. Boston Bombers were Refugees-

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/29/us/tamerlan-tsarnaevs-contacts-on-russian-trip-draw-scrutiny.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1

Sirhan Sirhan who murdered RFK was a Palestinian refugee

Then there's the Ft. Dix terror plot-
Drikar, Eljvir & Shain Duka
Agron Abdullahu (all ethnic Albanian muslims from Kosovo)
&
Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer, Palestinian refugee
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-20-fort-dix_N.htm


2011 NYC terror plot-
Ahmed Ferhani ,Algerian refugee
Mohamed Mamdouh, Moroccan
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ferhani-10-years-synagogue-bomb-plots-article-1.1289834
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/mohamed-mamdouh-5-years-plotting-blow-synagogues-article-1.1328598

oh hey lets not forget the blind Omar Abdel-Rahman an Egyptian refugee and the 1993 WTC bombings.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/omar-abdel-rahman-the-push-to-free-the-imprisoned-islamist-extremist/2013/01/26/1741189a-6646-11e2-85f5-a8a9228e55e7_story.html


Sami Osmakac, a kosovar refugee for the Tampa plot
http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/terrorism-trial-of-sami-osmakac-set-to-start-in-tampa/2181538

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #32)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:21 PM

38. Sirhan Sirhan??

Its fun watching you twist yourself into pretzels over this.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #32)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:47 PM

49. "Sirhan Sirhan who murdered RFK was a Palestinian refugee"

almost certainly he was a drugged mind controlled patsy and the real shooter(s) have moved on to other things.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #22)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:57 AM

25. Link or slink. Prove refugees were involved in that attack

 

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #35)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:29 PM

43. See? You failed. Refugees weren't involved

 

A member of ISIS came in with false ID. You fail.

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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #43)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:46 PM

48. Here....you might need this



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Response to Cardinals1982 (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:21 PM

39. Suicide Bomber with Syrian passport

Another of the bombers appeared to have used a Syrian passport and a fake name to slip into Europe disguised as a refugee. The passport was found on the bomber's body outside the Stade de France stadium.

Greek authorities released a report over the weekend saying the man came on a boat with nearly 200 other people from Turkey to the Greek island of Leros in early October. European authorities say he eventually made his way through the Balkans and into Austria before disappearing.

SOURCE- http://abcnews.go.com/International/alleged-attackers-paris-plot/story?id=35231440


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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #20)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:17 AM

76. How about we blame murderers for murders and not punish innocent people?

 

Seems to be a disquietingly rare position for anybody on these forums.

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Response to Juan Rico (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:03 PM

27. Well, it is pretty obvious the lack of proper gun control is not has not worked for a long time.

So maybe we should try something different, ya think?

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:27 PM

42. I don't think I can work with you on that.

The last guy called me a terrorist and said I should be treated as such. I can't risk helping him.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:51 PM

50. Gun Control only works on the lawabidding as history has amply demonstrated.

No more attempts at more rules no matter what the rationale.

Lets try executing terrorist actual or attempting on the spot. At least THAT will avoid repeat offenses.

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Response to rahtruelies (Reply #50)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:04 PM

53. Proper gun control works on everyone.

This country is awash in firearms of all kinds. That makes it easier to anyone, including toddlers to get their hands on one.
Make firearms bought legally and sold to the bad guys a federal crime, with teeth, and watch the death rate drop.
It is a fact that most bad guys do buy the guns the have from someone else. Most are not stolen. And of those that are stolen, they are either taken off the gun owner on the street in a hold up or laying about in the owner's homes, stolen because they were not properly locked up when the owners were not around.
Making buying firearms harder to buy than just because "I want another one" and this guy might not have had his AK47.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #53)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:36 PM

57. Nah

Sorry dems not happening. But good try with this one. 3 dead folks and you want policy? Ha.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #57)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:00 PM

59. More guns is obviously not the answer to too many guns.

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

In 2011, the U.S. population was approximately 312 million, and the country had 11,000 homicides from firearms. In the same year, Canada’s population was approximately 34 million and 158 gun-related homicides. That’s roughly 1 death for every 28,000 people in the United States vs. 1 death for every 215,000 people in Canada. The United States owns more firearms than any country in the world — 270 million of them as of 2011.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/storyline/wp/2014/10/23/why-canadas-gun-culture-is-different-and-why-its-shootings-shock-america/



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Response to ol geezer (Reply #59)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:34 PM

64. Meh

Butter kills people, pass a law or something.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #53)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:28 PM

63. the bad guys will ALWAYS be able to get guns.

Any wacko totalitarian rules your sort pass will ONLY disarm decent people. But then again that is your entire objective. You just can't stand the thought of Citizens who just might say NO to the Stasi and make it stick.

ALL you get to decide is whether or not YOU own a firearm.

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Response to rahtruelies (Reply #63)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:00 PM

65. So if it is still possible for the bad guys to get guns, there should be no effort to stop them?

Really, is that what you think?
The reality is that it is quite possible to make it harder for them, the bad guys to acquire any guns. Maybe we should look into that, huh? Me? I'm thinking that might help cut down on the mass shooting and stuff.
And you? Do you think an effort to keep gun out of the hands of possible bad guy might help?

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #65)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:08 PM

66. When guns are misused- execute the murderers, K!!!!

Beyond that I have absolutely no trust that your sort have any real goal beyond disarming decent people. Indeed I doubt you care all that much what the badguys do to decent folks as long as the decent folks aren't shooting back at them.

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Response to rahtruelies (Reply #66)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 07:29 PM

67. Decent people normally are not armed in the first place.

And do not feel the need to be.
It is the people with paranoid Rambo/Dirty Harry/Charles Bronson fantasies that are the problem.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #67)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:24 PM

68. yep, decent people only fuck in the missionary

don't drive foreign cars
don't get or give head
don't drink alcohol
don't smoke reefer
don't fuck on the first date
don't dress like indians for Halloween, don't culturally appropriate..
don't own icky icky scurry guns

and certainly don't give a shit about what other people think about their rights.

cheers.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #68)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:28 PM

69. You are thinking or Republicans.

I said decent people.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #69)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:22 AM

79. The definition of "decent" isn't "agrees with you"

 

Your opinions aren't the end-all, be-all of morality nor the way things should be.

Honestly, are you even listening to yourself?

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #67)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:18 AM

77. I, my wife and 2 of my three children

 

are not "decent people" in your eyes? Well none of us consider people who want to shred our document of freedom, the Constitution, to be anything more than human offal. We happen to live in a country founded on the principals of freedom, and your little grabnutz ideas just don't fly here.
This next election will be won by those demanding more freedom, not less. Molon Labe grabbers.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #67)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:58 PM

80. You have a strange idea of 'decent' Free Men are Armed Men.

Those who fear armed Citizens are well............

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Response to rahtruelies (Reply #80)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 03:59 PM

81. Free men don't fear their neighbors.

Only those captive to their fears arm themselves. They are not truly free.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #81)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 05:45 PM

82. Free Men have confidence because they are able to defend themselves

YOU on the otherhand are captive to an irrational fear of anyone capable of self-defense.

Once again - YOU don't want to own a gun? That's fine don't own one. But never ever get the idea that I or other Free Men need your permission to exercise our Rights.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #65)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:20 AM

78. If your "effort" takes rights away from innocent people, it is a decidedly bad effort.

 

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #27)

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 02:06 PM

83. How about we actually enforce EXISTING laws

Any prohibited person found illegally in possession of a firearm goes to jail for 5 years.

No exceptions

No "Good time"

And the sentence must be served CONSECUTIVE to any other time served.

You start doing that today and in 6 months firearms related crimes will plummet without a single law-abiding citizen giving up any Rights.

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Response to Smoke (Reply #83)

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 05:06 PM

84. I think you'd be surprised by those who think they are law abiding citizens, but aren't.

Blinded by their own interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #84)

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 05:33 PM

85. So you have nothing to say about the substance of my post?

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #84)

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 06:04 PM

86. Prove it, how are law bidding citizens not law bidding citizens

In your babble of a post

Every gun owner here abides by federal and local law's as they apply to themselves

Are they breaking any laws besides the one's the voices in your head claim they are?

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #86)

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 07:43 PM

87. I said "think" they are. That's the difference you missed.

Your turn - Prove that every gun owner here abides by federal and local laws.

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Response to Juan Rico (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 12:38 PM

45. Wanna bet barry's script was written before Friday.

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Response to rahtruelies (Reply #45)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 02:36 PM

56. Obama probably jumps for joy every time something like this happens

Now, gang bangers in Chiraq executing 9 year olds because their daddy is in a rival gang. ....he won't say a word because it doesn't fit his narrative

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Response to Juan Rico (Original post)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:20 PM

60. He might as well campaign for the GOP

Gun control loses Dems elections, but they keep trying.

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Response to Juan Rico (Original post)

Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:25 AM

71. Sorry Mr. President, it's already normal.

This is the norm, there's nothing we can or should do about domestic terrorism. But make sure you shit your pants over hypothetical terrorism from without. THAT'S what we need to be concerned about.

We are a fucked up society.

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