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Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:55 PM

 

How many support our foreign policy of violent regime change?

I'm guessing that we may have common ground on this issue but im not sure, so let's do a poll.

Do you support U.S. Foreign policy of violent regime change?

e.g. Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Syria, etc. by arming extremist like ISIS, etc.
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Reply How many support our foreign policy of violent regime change? (Original post)
bpilgrim Dec 2015 OP
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Response to bpilgrim (Original post)

Sun Dec 6, 2015, 11:58 PM

1. Some evil dictators just need killin.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:04 AM

3. So, the blow back of supporting and arming extremist in the ME is worth it?

 

911, France, LA, etc.

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:05 AM

4. I agree, Obama's policies of arming ISIS were completely wrong.

Supporting arab spring was foolish too.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:11 AM

7. This isn't just Obama though, this has been going on since at least wwII

 

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:20 AM

14. actually it is. Obama is the only one who armed and trained terrorists

everyone else worked with countries.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:25 AM

16. Nope, this US foreign policy going back to at least wwII

 

here's one example...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Grand-Chessboard-Geostrategic-Imperatives/dp/0465027261

Bone up and put down the partisan politics for one thread, please.

Thx

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #16)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:29 AM

18. Zbigniew Brzezinski is the most partizan person I kn ow.

sorry but a biased source does not trump the facts. Obama is the only one who armed terrorists.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #18)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:40 AM

25. Nope

 

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #25)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:10 AM

35. Reagan was a very misguided person.

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #25)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:53 AM

48. Reagan left office January 1989, Taliban formed 1994.

Do the math....

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #48)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:56 PM

61. Regan was best buds with the founding fathers of the taliban

 

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #61)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:06 PM

65. FDR was best buds with the biggest mass murderer of the 20th Century- Iosef Stalin

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #65)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:16 PM

66. We were at war, apples and oranges

 

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #66)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:35 PM

76. We beleived we were in these cases as well.

So much of our misguided and plainly wrongheaded actions in the ME in particular were taken as steps to contain the evil of Communism.
Iran, Chile, Indochina, Greece, Afghanistan... The list goes on. We fucked around in other nations affairs, because we believed we were in a fight to the death with World Communism..

And we made huge mistakes in that war, that are SOME of the seeds growing into this current conflict.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #18)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:47 AM

45. "Obama is the only one who armed terrorists."

Reagan didn't arm bin Laden? You have a selective view of history.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Reply #45)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:52 AM

47. Actually he didn't. OBL was NOT a Mujahideen leader who received CIA aid.

He wasn't even a blip on the radar then. He wasn't a Major Muj Leader and his group was small.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #47)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:56 AM

49. OK.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Reply #49)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:19 AM

53. Still wasnt even in the top 10 Mujahideen leaders

Ahmad Shah Massoud
Gulbuddin Hekmatyar
Burhanuddin Rabbani
Mohammad Yunus Khalis
Abdul Rasul Sayyaf
Sibghatullah Mojaddedi
Mohammad Nabi Mohammadi
Rahmatullah Safi
Abdullah Wardak
Amin Wardak
Abdul Haq

were the major Muj leaders

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #53)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:40 AM

55. An answer for everything but usually wrong.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Reply #55)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 11:21 AM

59. Indeed you are

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:19 PM

67. What about these guys?

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:17 AM

13. Is a threat of "blow back" all it takes to get you to jettison a policy?

 

Because dems have a lot of policies that should be jettisoned.

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:26 AM

17. Since 911, yes

 

but that certainly isn't the only reason.

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:41 AM

57. You're ignoring the previous 1500 years of Muslim aggression.

 

Islam is a diseased death cult that was born from war, midwifed by a schizophrenic pedophile.

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #57)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:58 PM

62. gibberish

 

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #62)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:24 PM

68. Historical fact. They can't even live peaceably among themselves. Never have.

 

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #68)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:26 PM

69. Derp

 

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #69)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:27 PM

74. Your inability to refute facts is duly noted.

 

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #74)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:34 PM

75. It's what he does when confronted with facts he abhors

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:47 AM

56. Hate to tell you this

But the Wests action in the ME have little to do with Islams hatred of the great and little Satans (the US And ISrael) it is built in to their religion!

https://factreal.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/muslim-crusades-started-four-centuries-before-the-western-crusades/

Islam had been violently conquering people and land since its inception.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #56)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:00 PM

63. same can be said of christians

 

Derp

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #63)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:32 PM

72. True

But the huge difference is this:

When Christians take matters into their own hands and go violent, they are in direct disobedience to the Lord Jesus Christ and His clear unambiguous teachings.

When Muslims go violent, they are obeying the Koran, the Hadith and thousands of Fatwahs that have been issued over the years.

Derp back!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #72)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:37 PM

73. Derp

 

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #63)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:50 PM

79. When was the last Christian conquest?

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #79)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:58 PM

80. The last genuine Christian conquest happened in A.D. 30

when the Lord Jesus Christ conquered sin and death by rising from the grave!

All wars in the name of Jesus did not have the sanction of Christ at all.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #79)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:48 PM

81. gott mit uns

 

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #81)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 07:00 AM

83. that wasn't a Christian conquest

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:11 AM

6. That would include North Korea, Russia, Somalia Syria, Venezuela, Cuba,all the "stans from the USSR,

the US (?). Who else does Da Mann not like? I included the US since it is ruled by a Muslim, anti-Christian, America hatting, Gun stealing, Athiest, traitor as evidenced by the posts here.

I wonder how we are going to get around all the "Evil Dictators" t one time or should we just line them up and take them one at a time?

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Response to Junglejim43 (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:02 AM

50. Are You Libs Going To Alert Jungle Jim 43??

US ... is ruled by a Muslim, anti-Christian, America hatting, Gun stealing, Athiest, traitor ...

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Response to Bubba (Reply #50)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:20 PM

82. We get the sarcasm.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:21 AM

37. The leaders aren't the problem. The population is.

Some communities can't help but unleash death and mayhem when their leadership is removed.

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Response to bpilgrim (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:01 AM

2. In another post

I noted a lot of the interventions that were counter productive. Recently they have been disastrous. I think at least since Vietnam only maybe Afghanistan might have been positive. Although since we didn't know really what we were doing there we again created Chaos.

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Response to Junglejim43 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:06 AM

5. Don't forget our first intervention in Afghanistan that led to 911

 

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:12 AM

8. ?

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Response to Junglejim43 (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:15 AM

11. To kick out the Russians we armed, funded and trained violent jihadis

 

Even printing their violent jihadi school books.

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:14 AM

10. Well arrest James Earl Carter for the Hague then, since he initiated aid to the Mujahideen in 1979

-signing Operation Cyclone into effect on 3 July, 1979.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:22 AM

15. Actually it was Zbigniew Brzezinski plan

 

The Grand Chessboard American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives ( 1997) Zbigniew Brzezinski.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Grand-Chessboard-Geostrategic-Imperatives/dp/0465027261

But, yeah... that too, that's why I said U.S. foreign policy, and not the lame and ignorant blame game of personal attacks on a single leader.

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:30 AM

19. Jimmy Carter signed it, Jimmy Carter owns it

http://www.rense.com/general31/cyc.htm


Your attempts to deflect blame from Carter are expected

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:31 AM

20. Whatever

 

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #20)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:33 AM

23. Yup Jimmy Carter is to blame for 9-11 since as you say it was our aid to Afghanistan that led to

9-11

Thank you again for admitting that



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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #23)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:10 AM

51. So

are you in favor of initiating war of aggression, supporting violent proxy forces etc. aggressive coup tactics for regime change? Or against?

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Response to bpilgrim (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:12 AM

9. Depends on the regime.

Violent regime change was cheered for Mussolini, Adolf, Tojo, Saddam

Few would argue it would be bad for the Kims of North Korea

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:17 AM

12. Big difference

 

We were at war with those nations.

Apples and oranges.

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:32 AM

21. So you agree that removing Saddam was good since we were at war with him, EXCELLENT!

Thanks for finally admitting that

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:33 AM

22. Excuse me

 

The adults are trying to talk here.

cya

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #22)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:38 AM

24. Somehow I expected you to suddenly run from YOUR own Words

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:51 AM

46. Invading Iraq was a boneheaded move.

George W Bush is an idiot.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Reply #46)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:16 AM

52. He had a grudge against them for his daddy, poppy Bush.

Unfinished business.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #52)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:36 AM

54. I never bought that explanation.

I thought he surrounded himself with delusional neocons who gave him very bad advice. They were convinced the Iraqi people would greet us with flowers and live happily ever after.

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Response to bpilgrim (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:41 AM

26. Setting aside the ethics of the thing, has it ever worked? n/t

 

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Response to liberalguy (Reply #26)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:44 AM

27. toyota makes nice shit, so does BMW

worked well in their home countries, and in lots of places we planted communists in the cold war.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #27)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:45 AM

30. Apples and oranges

 

We were at war with those nations.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #27)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:54 AM

31. Since Germany declared war on us, it wasn't elective.

 

And Hirohito remained Emperor of Japan until his death in 1989.

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Response to liberalguy (Reply #31)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:04 AM

32. The Chrysanthemum Throne remains the oldest hereditary monarchy to this very day

 

If only we had accepted they're one condition earlier, imagine no Okinawa, or even better, no Iwo... How many lives would have been saved.

But that's another discussion, however it does point to the benefits of a sane foreign policy.

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #32)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:06 AM

33. shame teller and ulam

took another 10 years to get it right. japan had it coming and we ran their government for decades after the war ended, by proxy.

we swapped government in south america like shitty drawers during the communist killing days of the cold war.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #33)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:16 AM

36. Japan had what coming?

 

The nuking of a defeated nation that was looking to sue for peace?

Well, no military leader in theater at that time agreed with that...
http://www.doug-long.com/hiroshim.htm

Hiroshima, the second most horrid word in the American lexicon, succeeded only by Nagasaki.

But let's stick to the topic at hand in this thread.

If be happy to discuss the A-bomb decision in another OP if you care to start one.

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #36)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 10:24 AM

58. Revisionist trash

But not suprising from the uber left.

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #32)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:53 PM

77. If only we had accepted they're one condition earlier

Then we would have had far worse situation we we had a real war with the Soviets.

The dead at Nagasaki and Hiroshima paid for the lives of hundreds of millions alive today, that would not be had we not shown Stalin our resolve in 1945.

Nuclear weapons have saved millions and millions of lives..

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Response to liberalguy (Reply #26)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:44 AM

28. Hmmmm...

 

Well, if we restrict it to the ME... and take into account all the blow back, security state, death, and treasure, I'd have to say no.

For the masters of the universe, they use their own calculus, and would probably disagree.

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Response to liberalguy (Reply #26)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:45 AM

29. Not since Vietnam, at least...

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Response to bpilgrim (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:08 AM

34. We should be better than "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".

Especially when we have so many evil "friends".

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Response to bpilgrim (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:32 AM

38. It's quite ok to vote in your own poll ya know . . . .

jus' sayin'



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Response to akaConcernedCanuk (Reply #38)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:43 AM

40. D'oh!

 

Thanks for the reminder

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #40)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:45 AM

41. np




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Response to bpilgrim (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:34 AM

39. Yes.

Keeping the ME unstable is paramount to our national security.

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Response to metroins (Reply #39)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:48 AM

42. It feels like a never ending south park episode with Cartman in charge!

 

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Response to bpilgrim (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:55 AM

43. Would/did you support the removal of Hitler and his regime?

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Response to LaughingGull (Reply #43)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:02 PM

64. Apples and oranges

 

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #64)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:26 PM

70. Why? Explain the difference.

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Response to LaughingGull (Reply #70)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:31 PM

71. Already did a few times

 

A declared war is the apple.

Violent regime change using conservative extremist without a declaration of war is the orange.

The orange is the topic of the OP.

Got it?

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Response to bpilgrim (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:35 AM

44. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

It's unconstitutional and who the hell does the US think it is pulling off these "regime changes"?

At least the children of the people that sat around and watched these illegal coups happen will have to pay the interest on the debt. While the infrastructure collapses around them, and they're forced to pay the latest insurance company premium hike.



Exactly which Americans will benefit if Obomber gets his way and forces Assad out?

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Response to bpilgrim (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 11:27 AM

60. Well, hard to fight a now organized ISIS nation-state

without it. I guess I have to vote "yes" even though I understand your intent.

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Response to bpilgrim (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:15 PM

78. The obvious answer is It Depends

You can't really make a blanket statement like it's either always right or always wrong.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #78)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:17 AM

84. Not to most

 

See the poll results

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Response to bpilgrim (Reply #84)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 02:24 PM

85. Perhaps I was a bit vague

I have no problem with the US removing a truly evil regime, much as we did with Germany and Japan. North Korea is perhaps the most evil place on Earth today and I would support their removal on humanitarian grounds.

Like I said, it depends.

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