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Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:15 AM

did Hillary look at classified-material on a mobile device?

disclaimer, that my 'connect the dots' conclusion
I have made reading several online publications.

She didn't want to bother to find
a secure terminal. Or not.

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Reply did Hillary look at classified-material on a mobile device? (Original post)
M41 Jan 2016 OP
Dr. Hexagon Jan 2016 #1
goodwords Jan 2016 #3
Gamle-ged Jan 2016 #5
MeatSandwich Jan 2016 #20
Frankenvoter Jan 2016 #2
batcat Jan 2016 #7
rampartb Jan 2016 #8
batcat Jan 2016 #10
RATFINK_5.0 Jan 2016 #12
batcat Jan 2016 #13
RATFINK_5.0 Jan 2016 #14
batcat Jan 2016 #16
RATFINK_5.0 Jan 2016 #18
batcat Jan 2016 #21
rampartb Jan 2016 #17
batcat Jan 2016 #22
RATFINK_5.0 Jan 2016 #4
M41 Jan 2016 #6
rampartb Jan 2016 #9
RATFINK_5.0 Jan 2016 #11
batcat Jan 2016 #15
Slayer Jan 2016 #19

Response to M41 (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:33 AM

1. As Bernie says, Americans are sick and tired of hearing about Hillarys emails.

Let it go. Better to ask what happened to Bush's 22 million emails about the Iraq War

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Response to Dr. Hexagon (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:10 AM

3. Go? No, Jail.

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Response to Dr. Hexagon (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:56 AM

5. First let the FBI indict Hillary for her security breaches, then when she's wearing...

.. orange pantsuits, go back seven years or more to Bush and have a fine ol' time rootin' an' a snufflin' in his email pile...

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Response to Dr. Hexagon (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 10:35 AM

20. For the last time. All of those e-mails were recovered.

You can repeat this meme all day, but that doesn't make it true.

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Response to M41 (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 01:37 AM

2. The MAIN thing you need to remember

She's Hillary Clinton. She's allowed to do whatever she wants, whenever she wants. With that smirk on her face, because she knows she's gonna get away with it, because she's Hillary Clinton, she's allowed to do whatever she wants, whenever she wants. Broken laws that bring down generals don't apply to her, because she's Hillary Clinton, she's allowed to do whatever she wants, whenever she wants, with that smirk on her face, because she knows she's gonna get away with it.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:20 AM

7. Bill and Hillary are members of a very exclusive club. ...

One of the biggest advantages of membership is that you are totally above the law. The rule of law only applies to the little people.

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Response to batcat (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:53 AM

8. politicians are not oligarchs

they are the employees of oligarchs. politicians are expendable and replaceable.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:02 AM

10. I think the Bush and Clinton families have been granted full membership in the ruling ...

oligarchy for services rendered. Somewhat like becoming a "made man" in the Mafia.


In the American Mafia, made man is a term for a fully initiated member of the Mafia. Other common names for members include man of honor (Italian: uomo d'onore), goodfella, and wiseguy, though the last two can also apply to non-initiated associates who work closely with the Mafia. Earning or making one's "button", or becoming a "button man" for the Mafia, is usually synonymous with becoming a "made man". In Sicily, the proper term for a member of the Sicilian Mafia is in Italian uomo d'onore, or in Sicilian omu d'onuri. Mafioso is a common term used by the press and academics, but is not used by members themselves.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_man

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Response to batcat (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:05 AM

12. Ever work for the M.A.F.I.A. ?

I can't tell if I am or not.

I do work for a Sicilian.

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Response to RATFINK_5.0 (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:15 AM

13. Nope, no Mafia ties here but I did have a friend in the service who was in a Mafia family. ...

I thought he was just a bullshit artist until we walked into a local bookstore and the owner recognized him. Apparently the bookstore owner had left the Big Apple and was running the numbers and gambling rackets in the town we were in.

My friend went home on leave and said he was set up in a really nice hotel room and he got some really good looking room service.

This was a long time ago back in the mid 1960s in Biloxi Mississippi.



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Response to batcat (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:50 AM

14. Never employed directly, to my knowledge.

But like you, I've learned later & was told I'd crossed paths. Both Italian & Irish mobs.

Bookies are always a dead give away. Construction & Developers are often another.

Chicago is all mobbed up but that was long ago w/ Al Capone. It's just down the interstate of my little burgh.



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Response to RATFINK_5.0 (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:59 AM

16. My father worked as an insurance inspector in the 1940s in Pittsburgh. ...

The politicians went on a rampage to fight the numbers racket before an election and my father knew a bookie who couldn't get his numbers delivered. As a favor my dad ran them in during the crackdown. When the heat was lifted he was offered a job with the mob but politely turned it down. He told me that such jobs were forever. He didn't want that type of commitment.

In passing my grandmother had fantastic luck playing the numbers and betting on horses. Unfortunately I didn't inherit any of that luck.

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Response to batcat (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:39 AM

18. Dude, we need to devote a thread to said subject.

Later though, as it's late and batteries are just now warming up.

Dad still is a Structural Eng. P.E. He still works closely w/ Insurance consultants, particularly after an event like the one last weekend. He is old & the job he does is brutal.

I quit working for him after terrible divorce from yes, mom ... many moons ago.

I got caught up in the middle as the oldest, blah, blah, blah ...

He has nothing to do w/ mob ... I'm pretty sure.

Neither does my Sicilian boss. Both are great guys & honest hard working men.

I did deliver the WSJ to a murder victim of the Whitey Hill Gang who had just bought the Jai Alai' sport franchise in Fla. He was still alive & belonged to same Country Club other grandad did. Tiger has played there twice.

Then there are other instances, mostly revolving around sport's betting & my uncles.

Best friends no longer w/ us, etc.

Btw, dad & I did interior survey of bldg which the aforesaid victim ran his headquarters out of.

Bldg was huge. This was before internet to which victim was kind of a pioneer to ...

I have to be careful as my burgh is small & people tend to know each other.

Nevertheless, this needs to be a whole other thread ...

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Response to RATFINK_5.0 (Reply #18)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:45 PM

21. Interestingly enough my father was too young for the WWI and too old for WWII. ...

He did sign up in the army for WWI and said he even made it so far as to be able to shoot a machine gun. His mom tracked him down and raised hell until the army released him.

In WWII his employer Retail Credit Company (now Equifax) loaned him out to Naval Intelligence. He ran background checks on scientists from Pittsburgh who were working on the Manhattan Project.

My mother told me that more than once my dad was pulled over by the police. There was gas rationing in those days and they grew suspicious when they noticed my father driving so frequently.

Dad worked mainly in a tough section of Pittsburgh called the Hill District. He said he always tried to be friends with both the cops and the mob.

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Response to batcat (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:16 AM

17. the bush men have been skull & bones for generations so you are 1/2 right

the clintons, working class no matter what airs they put on.

the oligarchy, like the mafia, has hereditary and religious aspects. only a full sicilian is made.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:49 PM

22. Times change. For example the requirements to be a made man in the Mafia may have evolved. ...


Traditionally, in the Italian-American Mafia, in order to become a true made man, the inductee had to be a male of full Italian (preferably Sicilian) descent. For example, famous Lucchese family associate Henry Hill, portrayed in the 1990 film Goodfellas, was unable to become a made man even though his mother was of Sicilian descent, as Hill's father was of Irish descent. Today, it is believed that the Italian-American Mafia has loosened this requirement so that males of half-Italian descent through their father's line can also be inducted. According to Salvatore Vitale, it was decided during a Commission meeting in 2000 to restore the rule requiring both parents to be Italian. However this rule was explicitly for the Five Families in New York. Because many third- and fourth-generation Italian Americans have non-Italian ancestry (due to the mixing of ethnic groups in the United States), having an Italian surname seems to have become the prerequisite for Mafia membership. Examples of made members who are not of full Italian descent include the son of Italian-American mobster John Gotti, John A. Gotti, whose maternal grandmother was of Russian descent; and Frank Salemme of the New England Patriarca crime family, whose mother was of Irish descent while his father was of Italian descent. In other cases, partially Italian-American associates have hidden their non-Italian heritage in order to become made men, such as Scarfo crime family soldier or made man Andrew Thomas DelGiorno, who managed to conceal his Polish heritage on his mother's side and was inducted into the Philadelphia Mafia. Some half-Italian associates of John Gotti that rose to a status close to that of a made man include Wilfred Johnson, half-Native American and half-Italian, and Ronald Jerothe, half-Italian on his mother's side, though both of these men were killed and consequently never inducted into the Mafia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_man

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Response to M41 (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 02:14 AM

4. Obviously. She accessed the double double double, or triple double, highly classified

material for the formula for Coca Cola™:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola_formula

High fructose corn syrup or sucrose are overwhelmingly the major added ingredients: one 600 ml bottle (≈20.29 U.S. fl. oz.) of Coca Cola contains the approximate equivalent of 15 teaspoons of sugar. However, contrary to what is implied by the "cola" name, Coca-Cola syrup does not contain any kola nut extract. Since no kola extracts are present in the recipe, the primary taste of Coca-Cola comes from vanilla and cinnamon with trace amounts of orange, lime and lemon and spices such as nutmeg.



I think she was paid by Putin.



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Response to RATFINK_5.0 (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:11 AM

6. what about the satellite photos?

who exactly sent her that stuff?

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Response to M41 (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:54 AM

9. what does any secretary of state "need to know" about satellite photos?

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Response to M41 (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:02 AM

11. Whoa ! There are satellite photos of the secret Coca Cola™ vault in Atlanta ?

This espionage, counter-espionage stuff is getting way out of hand and very, very deep.



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Response to RATFINK_5.0 (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:51 AM

15. A Secretary of State would have high level clearances and handle highly classified...

information on a daily basis.


Classified information in the United States

***snip***

Code Word classifications

Top Secret is highest level of classification. However some information is compartmentalized by adding a code word so that only those who have been cleared for each code word can see it. This information is also known as "Sensitive Compartmented Information" (SCI). A document marked SECRET (CODE WORD) could only be viewed by a person with a secret or top secret clearance and that specific code word clearance. Each code word deals with a different kind of information. The CIA administers code word clearances.

Top Secret

The highest security classification. "Top Secret shall be applied to information, the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security that the original classification authority is able to identify or describe." It is believed that 1.4 million Americans have top secret clearances.

Secret

This is the second-highest classification. Information is classified Secret when its unauthorized disclosure would cause "serious damage" to national security. Most information that is classified is held at the secret sensitivity.

Confidential

This is the lowest classification level of information obtained by the government. It is defined as information that would "damage" national security if publicly disclosed, again, without the proper authorization.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classified_information_in_the_United_States

Now I realize that many people think the above is simply bullshit but a rational and intelligent person should be able to understand the damage that could result to our nation if there was highly classified email on an unauthorized and improperly secured dark server and it was hacked. Foreign intelligence agencies would be thrilled to have acces to such email and most likely they did.

This is no trivial matter nor is it a conspiracy theory promoted by Republicans to hurt Hillary's chances to become president.

But to be fair the FBI is still investigating. If they determine that Hillary should be indicted and the DOJ refuses to go along, I predict there will be hell to pay.

In my opinion if you can't be trusted to handle our nation's highest secrets with care then you should never be trusted to be the president of our nation.

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Response to M41 (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 08:30 AM

19. Did Hillary eat my cat?

 

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