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Wed May 18, 2016, 02:52 PM

Hillary Clinton's viral nightmare: Honesty, trust and that video

You could say that it all depends on how you define "lie." Or, perhaps, that it's hell to have a public record.

Either way, Hillary Clinton's vast resume of, shall we say, inconsistencies is the dog that caught the car and won't let go. A viral video collection of her comments on various subjects through the years is bestirring Republican hearts.

To those who'd rather vote for a reality show host than a Clinton, the video merely confirms what they've believed all along. For independents and even Democrats, it's a reminder of how often Clinton has morphed into a fresh incarnation as required by the political moment.

Most of the highlights would be familiar to anyone who follows politics — her varying takes on Bosnia, health care, Wall Street, NAFTA — but the juxtaposition of these ever-shifting views is more jarring than one might expect. Politicians count on Americans' short attention spans (and memories) as much as they do their own policies and/or charms. This video, inartfully titled "Hillary Clinton lying for 13 minutes straight," clarifies blurred recollections and recasts them in an order that, among other things, reminds us how long the Clintons have been around.

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Reply Hillary Clinton's viral nightmare: Honesty, trust and that video (Original post)
Immacolata May 2016 OP
daemons May 2016 #1
batcat May 2016 #2
Grumpy Pickle May 2016 #3
batcat May 2016 #4
Grumpy Pickle May 2016 #5
daemons May 2016 #6
batcat May 2016 #7
daemons May 2016 #9
batcat May 2016 #10
daemons May 2016 #11
batcat May 2016 #13
daemons May 2016 #14
batcat May 2016 #15
daemons May 2016 #16
batcat May 2016 #17
daemons May 2016 #18
batcat May 2016 #19
brew9876 May 2016 #8
myohmy May 2016 #12

Response to Immacolata (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 03:00 PM

1. Bernie lost. He fought well, but lost. Get over it.

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Response to daemons (Reply #1)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:02 PM

2. Yup. The fix was in right from the start. ...

The almighty Clinton Machine may have a lot of miles on the odometer and it may occasionally cough and sputter but it still managed to run over Bernie. But just barely.



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Response to batcat (Reply #2)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:17 PM

3. It`s blatantly obvious that DNC chairwoman, Wassy -Shultzie, is completely biased in Hillary`s

favor. They only had Bernie in the race to give the `appearance` of running a real primary.

The fix was in from Day 1.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #3)

Wed May 18, 2016, 08:06 PM

4. The Party should just change its name from the Democratic Party to the Clinton Party. ...

If Hillary wins then in four or eight years Chelsea will be ready to run next.

Chelsea has already started to raise funds.

With mom still running, Chelsea Clinton’s already gearing up for White House bid
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 6:00 PM

***snip***

The private invite to Chelsea Clinton’s Wednesday night fund-raiser, to be held at a swanky Upper East Side residence, reads that it’s in support of her mother’s 2016 presidential bid. But some of the big spenders plunking down the big bucks to attend say Chelsea’s future in politics has been the talk of her campaign rallies.

“You’re seeing the beginning of Chelsea Clinton preparing to run,” says a donor who attended Chelsea’s rally at Dr. Paul Boskind’s Midtown home last week, where “limited availability guest” entry started at $250 and $2,700 “champion” tickets included a photo with Chelsea. Our insider says: “A dynasty is on the way.”

The former first daughter, 35, has not been shy about her political ambitions, though where she’d begin her career in politics is anyone’s guess. Last March, Chelsea reportedly told Sky News that she’d “absolutely" consider seeking office.

“She’s clearly politically adept,” says our Clinton supporter. “People at these rallies think she’s prime for a run.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/chelsea-clinton-gearing-white-house-bid-article-1.2510390


I wonder if we will ever be rid of the damn Clintons. They are harder to get rid of than bedbugs wearing chain mail.

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Response to batcat (Reply #4)

Wed May 18, 2016, 08:29 PM

5. OMG no !...not another Clinton.

Enough with these entitled dynastic dipshits.

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Response to batcat (Reply #2)

Thu May 19, 2016, 10:02 AM

6. Yes, they forced 3.5 million more people to vote for her than for Bernie

Do you listen to yourselves sometimes?

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Response to daemons (Reply #6)

Thu May 19, 2016, 11:51 AM

7. There are questions about the integrity of that vote. ...

It’s Not Just Arizona: Election ‘Shenanigans’ Have Defined the Democratic Primaries - and Benefit Hillary Clinton
03/28/2016 04:40 pm ET | Updated Mar 28, 2016

Beginning in Iowa and climaxing with the holy mess that occurred in Arizona, the Democratic presidential primaries have been a Wagnerian Ring Cycle of electoral “shenanigans,” cynical rule-bending and outright voter suppression.

The DNC has relied upon its favorite scapegoats (benign incompetence, and of course, Republicans) to explain away the convenient “mishaps” and anomalies that have consistently favored Clinton as she elbows her way to the Democratic coronation ceremony in Philadelphia. Even Nate Silver, widely regarded as the Gandalf of statistical analysis, still can’t figure out how Clinton won in Iowa and Massachusetts:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/riley-waggaman/its-not-just-arizona-elec_b_9550670.html

I suggest you read and consider the entire article. It just reinforces my contention that the fix was in right from the beginning.

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Response to batcat (Reply #7)

Thu May 19, 2016, 12:53 PM

9. There aren't questions about 3.5 million voters' worth.

You're talking about a handful of votes here and there.


3.5 million is a *BIG* number..... and it can't be explained away with conspiracy theories about suppression or "shenanigans".

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Response to daemons (Reply #9)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:21 PM

10. So the Democratic Party gets its way and nominates Hillary. ...

It might even take SuperDelegates to help her out. Considering the fact that the MSN was in the bag for Hillary (just watch CNN, the Clinton News Network) it is no surprise that Bernie is behind on the number of votes.

However Bernie has the support of a LARGE number of Democrats who may decide to simply sit the election out rather than vote for Hillary as they feel the fix was in. Hillary may end up being the Democratic candidate but is weaker against Trump than Bernie. She lugs a lot of baggage around with her. This may not end up well for the Democratic Party.



A large number of voters feel as I do that the Democratic Primary was rigged from the get go. Fortunately for you Hillary will run against Trump. However Trump may surprise everybody once again and start acting presidential and if so has an excellent chance of winning in November. The RNC didn't want Trump any more than the DNC wanted Bernie but at least most people feel the Republican primary was fair. That gives Trump an edge over Hillary.

I haven't even mentioned the FBI primary. A recommendation for an indictment might be the straw that breaks Hillary's back.

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Response to batcat (Reply #10)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:24 PM

11. If Bernie got more votes, I would support him getting the superdelegates

It doesn't matter if Hillary is the best candidate or not. She won the primary.


Just like it doesn't matter if Trump is the best candidate for the GOP. He won the primary.


If the superdelegates flip to Bernie, then they are usurping the will of the voters and undermining democracy.

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Response to daemons (Reply #11)

Thu May 19, 2016, 02:08 PM

13. Hillary hasn't won the primary yet. ...

If the FBI recommends an indictment she may lose enough SuperDelegates to set up an open convention. If so I expect Joe Biden to ride in on his white horse to save the day for the establishment. (The DNC can't allow Bernie to win as he might derail the gray train most of our elected representatives enjoy riding.)




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Response to batcat (Reply #13)

Thu May 19, 2016, 02:13 PM

14. She has clinched that she will have more votes and more pledged delegates

If the superdelegates go for Bernie, they are usurping the majority of voters in the Democratic primary.

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Response to daemons (Reply #14)

Thu May 19, 2016, 02:20 PM

15. SuperDelegates deserted Hillary in 2008. ...

History may repeat itself. It has a bad habit of doing just that.

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Response to batcat (Reply #15)

Thu May 19, 2016, 04:55 PM

16. Superdelegates went with the candidate that had the most pledged delegates in 2008

and they'll do the same this time.

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Response to daemons (Reply #16)

Thu May 19, 2016, 06:09 PM

17. That may change if Hillary keeps falling in the polls ...

and the FBI recommends an indictment. In fact the FBI may recommend an indictment if Hillary keeps falling in the polls and the DOJ may go along.

Hillary is a deeply flawed candidate.

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Response to batcat (Reply #17)

Fri May 20, 2016, 01:27 AM

18. Hillary *IS* a flawed candidate. But she won't be indicted and the FBI won't recommend it either.

THat's wishful thinking by haters.

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Response to daemons (Reply #18)

Fri May 20, 2016, 01:52 AM

19. If the FBI doesn't recommend she be indicted then it is obvious to me that the rule of law is ...

totally irrelevant to certain privilaged people in our nation. They are totally above it.

I know this for a fact. If I had set up a private server in my home back when I had a security clearance and classified email had been discovered on it I would have been in deep, deep shit. But of course I am just one of the little people.

But I agree that Hillary will never be indicted. She will get away with mishandling classified email and selling favors for enormous speech fees and donations to the Clinton Foundation slush fund.

If you wish to live in a well functioning representative democracy the rule of law should apply not only to the peons but also to the big wigs. When it doesn't you end up where we are today.

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Response to Immacolata (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 11:55 AM

8. Yep she is certainly a lying POS...but democrats are good little sheep and will do what their told.

At least Republicans said hell no to another Bush. Guess Democrats are just weak like that.

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Response to Immacolata (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:46 PM

12. oh dear...

...flawed, very flawed...that dog won't hunt...we had better practice saying, "..president trump"

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