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Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:00 AM

AG Lynch says most effective weapon against terrorists is Love.

I don't get it. Honestly, I don't. I have heard some nonsense in my life, and I've seen stupidity by the ton. But the most effective weapon against Terrorism is love? Has Attorney General Lynch had some sort of mental breakdown?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/21/loretta-lynch-most-effective-response-to-islamic-t/

Attorney General Loretta Lynch told Florida’s LGBT community that the “most effective” weapon at America’s disposal against Islamic terrorism is “love.”

Mrs. Lynch told reporters in Orlando on Tuesday that an ongoing investigation will determine the precise motive for 29-year-old Omar Mateen’s June 12 massacre at Pulse, a gay nightclub. Mateen, a former security guard, called 911 and pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group while killing 49 people and wounding 53 others.

“To the LGBT community — we stand with you,” President Obama’s attorney general said. “The good in this world far outweighs the evil. Our common humanity transcends our differences, and our most effective response to terror is compassion, it’s unity and it’s love. We stand with you today because we grieve together, and long after the cameras are gone will continue to stand with you as we grow together in commitment and solidarity and in equality.”

Love is apparently quite expensive. Since the Department of Homeland Security was created in response to a Terrorist attack to prevent another terrorist attack. In March, the Department of Homeland Security was "fully funded" through to September of this year. The funding was for $40 Billion. That covered just six months of Love.

If our most effective weapon is love, why do we need the NSA to read everyone's email? Why do we need a plethora of alphabet soup agencies all working around the clock to track and identify potential terrorists? Are the Reaper drones that remotely bomb terrorist leaders being refitted to drop rose petals on the enemy to show them how much we love them?

If the Government is tapping telephones and reading all our text messages and damn near strip searching people when they get on a plane out of "Love" then we are in one of those abusive controlling relationships that are usually the plot in the Lifetime Movie of the Week.

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Reply AG Lynch says most effective weapon against terrorists is Love. (Original post)
SavannahMan Jun 2016 OP
Jack Flash Jun 2016 #1
Arne Oker Jun 2016 #41
Banshee 3 Actual Jun 2016 #2
Dukota01 Jun 2016 #9
batcat Jun 2016 #10
Dukota01 Jun 2016 #11
batcat Jun 2016 #12
quinnoxfromdu Jun 2016 #3
It Guy Jun 2016 #13
Arne Oker Jun 2016 #42
fncceo Jun 2016 #45
Arne Oker Jun 2016 #47
fncceo Jun 2016 #49
RolandLePreux Jun 2016 #4
DoDaMan Jun 2016 #5
screenstar Jun 2016 #6
Let it go Jun 2016 #7
D.Libby Jun 2016 #8
SavannahMan Jun 2016 #14
msv Jun 2016 #17
LexTalionis Jun 2016 #21
nolidad Jun 2016 #23
brew9876 Jun 2016 #25
D.Libby Jun 2016 #31
MeatSandwich Jun 2016 #33
It Guy Jun 2016 #15
msv Jun 2016 #16
Banshee 3 Actual Jun 2016 #40
Scary Red Jun 2016 #18
SavannahMan Jun 2016 #19
Scary Red Jun 2016 #20
Arne Oker Jun 2016 #48
nolidad Jun 2016 #24
Scary Red Jun 2016 #32
nolidad Jun 2016 #38
Scary Red Jun 2016 #39
nolidad Jun 2016 #46
black rifles Jun 2016 #29
Sibelian the White Jun 2016 #22
Aldar Jun 2016 #26
Da Mannn Jun 2016 #27
cologeek Jun 2016 #28
Arne Oker Jun 2016 #43
Grumpy Pickle Jun 2016 #30
MeatSandwich Jun 2016 #34
Tovera Jun 2016 #36
Tovera Jun 2016 #35
Jenny Fromdablock Jun 2016 #37
Carlos W Bush Jun 2016 #44

Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:12 AM

1. Shockingly stupid woman.

 

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Response to Jack Flash (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:45 PM

41. Yes, not consoling the LGBT community

By stirring them to hating others. Yes, when tragedy strikes you really need to stoke hatred in your heart. That is the best medicine!

So carry on, genius!

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:14 AM

2. Actually its a 5.56mm trepanning....

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:27 AM

9. I got 500 rnds of .45 acp in today's mail. Think that will work?

Damn auto-correct

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Response to Dukota01 (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:40 AM

10. .45 acp might work better. (n/t)

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Response to batcat (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:42 AM

11. Damn auto-correct Lol

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Response to Dukota01 (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:55 AM

12. Auto-correct is the Devil's spell check. ...



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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:17 AM

3. So out of touch. It would be nice if these high up Obama officials would actually do some research

and study of Islamic terrorism, and its pervasiveness, and why it is still rising. Islamic terror is a scourge that is not going away, unfortunately, any time soon.

Eventually, their ostriches heads in sand strategy will no longer be tolerated by the people, after attack after attack happens, like clockwork.

They (and a lot of the regressive left) are in deep denial.

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Response to quinnoxfromdu (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:19 AM

13. She's not out of touch, it's just propaganda for the idiot class.

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Response to quinnoxfromdu (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:48 PM

42. Did it occur to you that she wasn't speaking to you?

And why would she? What could she say that would do any good?

She was trying to console a community in mourning. But of course you don't care about that community. Or what threatens it, which is not just Islamic terrorism, as a casual look at recent history reveals.

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Response to Arne Oker (Reply #42)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:58 PM

45. Console a community...

... by telling them they were killed because they didn't love their killers enough?

Try that on some Holocaust survivors sometimes.

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Response to fncceo (Reply #45)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 07:00 AM

47. How do we deal with that

By loving Jews or hating Germans?

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Response to Arne Oker (Reply #47)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 07:13 AM

49. Can't we do both?

If you don't think today's European are still capable of trying to herd Jews into boxcars, try attending an anti-Israel protest in any European city.

The hatred of their fathers for the Jews hasn't abated, it's just a bit more circumspect.

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:18 AM

4. Sounds like she's having an LSD flashback

She would have been a young girl of eight or nine during the "Summer Of Love". Maybe she was raised like a hippie. Militant Islam, however, doesn't appreciate love or compassion but only strength. They have all the understanding of a nest of scorpions.

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:33 AM

5. My take on all of this

is that these types of things are intentionally said. There are other things that are not said like "Islamic Extremist" "Allah", "Jihad", etc. Things are said and not said for a reason.

Things are not said as Obama does not want the Islamic Extremist that he sponsors in Syria and Iraq to turn on him. We all know that there is a fine line between keeping our "moderate rebels" fighting the good fight vs turning on us.

He can't say these words or speak of their extremism because that really pisses them off more than anything. So when you get folks starting to talk about it, Obama has to send the message of "We will shower you with love and compassion". It's the antidote for what others are saying.

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:39 AM

6. If you disagree with this policy,

you're a Nazi.
It's no more complicated than that.

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:03 AM

7. Thank God these morons weren't in charge during WWII

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:22 AM

8. Was bombing the hell out of a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 associated with a bigger or

smaller mental breakdown of W compared to Lynch's comments?

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:20 AM

14. Are you really sure you want to play this game?

OK, let's play then.

One of the signs of wisdom is learning from mistakes. A minimally wise person will learn from their own mistakes. A moderately wise person will learn from the mistakes of others. What do we call someone who doesn't learn from either?

Invading Iraq was a mistake. Yes we removed a brutal dictator, and left a power vacuum that has been filled with a collection of radical warlords and regional powers. Now, the new administration comes in aware of this incredible failure, and what do they do?

Assist in the overthrow of Gaddafi. Then celebrate the death of the man, and take credit for it. Which has left a power vacuum from the removal of a brutal dictator, which has resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Crisis_(2011%E2%80%93present)

But that wasn't enough of a lesson, they repeated the mistake in Egypt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-coup_unrest_in_Egypt_(2013%E2%80%932014)

Now, we're embroiled in Syria, which has another brutal dictator, who must be removed according to the same administration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War

Bush was dumb for invading Iraq and destabilising the nation. How dumb is it to make the same mistake at least three more times? Egypt is barely stable, if you misuse the term stable. Syria and Libya are brutal civil wars with hundreds of thousands dead, and at least that many refugees flooding Europe and our nation.

So how dumb was Bush? Pretty dumb. But how dumb is it to repeat his mistake time and time again? I'd say catastrophically dumb. How about you? Do you think it's just as dumb to repeat a mistake, or even dumber to repeat the mistake?

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Response to SavannahMan (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:29 AM

17. Great post.

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Response to SavannahMan (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 05:10 AM

21. Now, your just being mean.

Bringing facts into an argument.

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Response to SavannahMan (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:44 AM

23. awesome job

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Response to SavannahMan (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:53 AM

25. Boom...

Notice the no response...guess he didn't want to play. He took his ball and went home telling his mom that people were mean to him.

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Response to SavannahMan (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:32 AM

31. So intentionally misinterpret what Lynch said

and avoid the question. A 2fer Congrats

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #31)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:01 PM

33. No, he was responding this incredibly ignorant post.

Was bombing the hell out of a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 associated with a bigger or smaller mental breakdown of W compared to Lynch's comments?

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:23 AM

15. Funny that. When a republican is in office, they see things with clarity, but as soon as a liberal

Is selected, on goes the rose colored glasses and blinders.

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:28 AM

16. Ask Obama and Hillary

They've continued and expanded W's crazy rampage through the middle east. Compared to them W looks positively restrained.

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:34 PM

40. Was it Italy that Bombed Pearl Harbor?

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 03:22 AM

18. That is a complete and absolute misreading of what she said...

You got the words right, but lost the context.

First, the guy that shot them up was no more a terrorist than you're a Klansman. (I'm assuming you're not a Klansman...) He was a demented asshole who happened to have heard something about killing what he thought were perverts but was under no orders to do so and belonged to no organization.

And then, the AG's comments were not meant as a battle plan for the imaginary war against the imaginary group he represented, but were to comfort the victims and the community and to remind us that we are still more united in our acceptance of pretty much everyone.

We don't win wars with "love" but we do maintain societies with love and community as a large part of it.

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #18)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:01 AM

19. Pfui.

Unity of a people is important for national goals. Yet, that unity is pretty much a given. Nobody except a few loons was running around screaming that the Gay's deserved it.

Now, the idea that Omar Mateen wasn't really motivated by Islam is wishful thinking to the extreme. You can say he was a self loathing homosexual, or he was a deeply disturbed man. Yet, he was a member of a Mosque and a member of a religion that teaches that Homosexuals should be put to death.

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Are all the people in the audience "extremists" and if so how the hell did so many radicals get together?

The Justice Department edited the transcripts of the phone calls to remove references to Islam. That was nonsense. Either you tell the truth, or you say nothing. You don't tell a partial truth, because that becomes a complete lie. Now the FBI wants credit for finally giving up the truth. http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/20/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/

Perhaps Mateen was just a self loathing homosexual. But his self loathing came from the teachings of his religion. To be a good Muslim, he could not be a homosexual. So he strove to be a better muslim, and kill the homosexuals so he could get to the promised paradise. His motivation was on display for days and remains on display despite the desperate effort to rewrite history.

Our greatest weapon against terrorism is the truth. Our greatest unifying fact is that everyone of us is hated by the terrorists. If there was one American left alive, the terrorists would want them dead. Lies and obfuscations don't help us. Understanding, compassion, and love are as useless as hate. Hating our enemies doesn't help us, and anger is a weapon you freely give to your opponent.

We don't want to slip into the horror of hating all muslims. So we make an equally large mistake of downplaying the truth and pushing out nonsense like this.

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Response to SavannahMan (Reply #19)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:10 AM

20. Aye, there's the rub...

the attitude that's being pushed by the AG is that he's a nutcase and a criminal who happened to be Muslim. The Muslim part of it isn't any more important in this case than religion was in any other mass murderer's.

And our strength is not in our hatred of bogeymen, but in our own unity.

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Response to SavannahMan (Reply #19)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 07:11 AM

48. I wouldn't deny that Mateen was influenced by extreme Islamic sites

In his process of self-radicalization. But he appeared to already have a core of hatred before he found the Daesh lies to justify them, and before he lied about his connections to "big deal" terrorist groups. (I mean ISIS AND Hizbullah? Give me a break!)

You can find justification for homophobia in Islam. You can also find it in Judaism and Christianity. I am a Christian, and I don't hate gays. There is a disturbing number of fundamentalists, both Muslim and Christian, who are oppressive of gays. Most of those fundamentalists are not terrorists, as regressive as they are.

Mateen did identify with a group that I think that we should do what we can to destroy. But even if we eliminate that group, you will still have the Mateens of the world. And, until things change dramatically, similar groups are likely to pop up.

Daesh is not comparable to the Soviet Union. We make a huge mistake in treating them like they are, or as representing more than a tiny fringe of Muslims.

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #18)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:47 AM

24. You obviously know nothing of Islam.

You do not have to be a member of any specific group to be a terrorist- Just a Muslim intent on obeying the Quran and Hadith when it comes to dealing with infidels!

I do agree with yo on the love part- it was meant to overcome the fears of acts as brutal as Florida was.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #24)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:04 PM

32. I really hate this constant redefining of "terrorist"...

just because Islam has some jihadi talk in it. I've been hearing allegedly Christian pastors talk about how great it was to kill all those perverts and why we should start bombing abortion clinics again.

This guy was a mad criminal, just like every other mass murderer, and most non-mass killers. Throwing his religion into it just confuses things. What makes him a terrorist while the Green River Killer wasn't?

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #32)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:00 PM

38. well:

ter·ror·ist
ˈterərəst/
noun
a person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims.
synonyms: extremist, fanatic; More

Ridgeway was just a wanton murderer while Mateen declared his murders were for Allah!

Both can strike terror, but Ridgeway confined his killings to vulnerable women while terrorist will strike targets of opportunity.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #38)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:16 PM

39. Gimme a break-- even with that definition, how is Allah political...

and howcum we didn't have this huge parallel apparatus to deal with abortion clinic bombers? That was certainly political, with religious justification.

The way we're using it is simply to brand Muslims, and only Muslims, as terrorists. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, atheists... no terrorists there no matter what they do.

Eliminate the use of "terrorist" and call them what they are-- criminals.

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #39)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 06:39 AM

46. Islam, is a political/ theology.

It is completely interwoven in the govt. of many nations.

I can't speak for the other religions, but the teachings of the New Testament which are the foundations for Christianity do not teach go and kill people like abortionists.

The Quran and Hadith do teach it- that is the enormous difference.

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #18)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 09:23 AM

29. Not a terrorist???

 

Walks and quacks like one.....

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:21 AM

22. .... OH, YEAH. The cuddly shirtlifters will dig that shit.


Cuz, ya know, they're basically a kind of off-shoot of the hippie free love movement, aren't they? They all sprang into existence in the 60s.

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 08:12 AM

26. Yeah, tell that to the 4 month old baby ISIS just beheaded

 

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 08:14 AM

27. Lynch translation: Love = we'll do nothing, no retaliation.

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 08:37 AM

28. Lynch: Justice Dept. to seek death penalty against Dylann Roof

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/05/24/dylann-roof-death-penalty-justice-department/84871618/

Where's the love Loretta?

(btw, I fully support ending Roof's right to oxygen)

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Response to cologeek (Reply #28)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:50 PM

43. Why?

Is he a Muslim?

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 09:25 AM

30. The woman is deranged.

HUG-A-TERRORIST.....my ass.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #30)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:04 PM

34. I liked it better when the slogan was "Kill a commie for mommie."

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #30)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:10 PM

36. Everyone who wants to hug a terrorist, raise your hand:

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:08 PM

35. She's absolutely right!

For example, I love .338 Lapua Magnum...

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:51 PM

37. Wait...I thought it was jobs.

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:52 PM

44. What kind of bullshit is that?

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