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Fri Jun 24, 2016, 01:42 PM

Why was Brexit embraced? Freedom....

I love analogy, or examples that most people are familiar with. This way they can call to mind an image or scene that makes sure we're on the same sheet of music.

In this case, I would like to quote the movie "The Patriot" starring Mel Gibson. Note. For the purposes of this discussion I'm talking about a movie the man happened to star in, not the man or his beliefs. In the movie, they are debating the decision to go to war with England, and Mel points out that it's just as easy for an elected legislature to trample a man's rights as a king.



The British felt the same frustrations as the colonials that were represented in this movie. Orders and policies and regulations handed down from a Government they had no say in, and minimal influence within. The EU would hand down regulations. In order for a product to be sold, either within Britain, or across national lines within the area of the EU, it had to meet certain standards. Oh, and there would be demands on how you run your "nation" within the larger EU.

Examples include tax breaks. If France want's to offer a tax break to a corporation to locate a plant within their nation, that's France's business. Only, it's not the business of France anymore. Now, the EU can tell them you may not offer tax breaks, and you must charge a minimum VAT or else. The products you manufacture, and sell, must meet our approval, not only in what the product must have, but also how it is made, and who you may hire.

The people grumbled to their National Governments. The EU was sold as a benefit. We would have no walls between us. We would be allowed to travel without special Visa's, and our products would be welcome on your shelves just as your products would be on ours. We would be a nation in a larger grouping of nations. United in so far as we're all in the same region.

But then, the inevitable regulations, policies, and demands started. Belgium would pass a regulation, and Britain would argue about it being unfair. Only unlike the UN, Britain didn't have a Veto to insure British Interests were maintained. The Nation of the United Kingdom started to be less of a nation, and more of a State. The PM and House of Commons became more of a State Legislature, less of a national assembly.

They could not vote the EU authorities in Belgium out of office. And the longer they stayed, the more European they became, with far away masters dictating their lives, and the less British they became.

The desire of the Human Soul is freedom. We've seen this through history. The fall of the Berlin Wall, the huge exodus from East Germany in the first place that caused the wall to go up. The student protests at Tiananmen Square. Gandhi and the rebellion of the people in India. Rebellion, Revolution, protests, and demands. All for freedom. Because people want to be able to control as much of their own lives as possible. This is the natural state, the natural desire of each of us.

When the demands of a government become too onerous to endure, the people start thinking of how they can get more freedom. The vote was supposed to be a confirmation, a vote of complete confidence for the principle of Britain within a larger European community. But the EU continued to place demands on Britain, demands that the people chaffed under.

There was no single demand, no stamp tax that pushed them into rebellion. But a thousand papercuts are just as intolerable as one big slash with a butchers knife.

People denounce Nationalism as if it is inexorably tied with Fascism or Totalitarianism. Nationalism is nothing more than thinking that you should have more say in how your country is run. That your country should focus on it's own citizens before looking at the world. In our case, it's the idea that the American Government should represent the American Citizens first and foremost. This is why most elections while denounced by a few, are accepted by the vast majority. Because we're all Americans and representing us all is the purpose of the Government.

Our representatives who do not represent us, can and are voted out of office. But imagine if the UN was handing down policies and regulations we had to follow. We can't vote them out, and our protests are ignored like the rantings of some petulant child. Our collective self interest would demand that we break away, and chart a more uncertain course, in the interest of self determination, and our own freedom.

Brexit isn't a surprise. It's a shout that the local governments made up of local people are better suited to representing the interests of locals. It's the same song that has been shouted many times in our worlds history. Curiously, every time the people demand national identity, the world economic powers are always surprised, disturbed, and annoyed.

I am not a Western Hemisphere citizen. I am not a Northern Hemisphere Citizen. I am not a Citizen of the world. Nor am I a North American Citizen. I am an American, of the United States of America. We may not be the best, but we are Americans.

So I understand the Brexit voters, even if the others don't. Some of the voters may not be able to put their feelings into words. But they were seeking what a people are always seeking. Freedom, and self determination.

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SavannahMan Jun 2016 OP
Dexter Morgan Jun 2016 #1
SavannahMan Jun 2016 #7
PrimeCustodian Jun 2016 #2
Grumpy Pickle Jun 2016 #3
smoke check Jun 2016 #4
Texas_mom Jun 2016 #5
RolandLePreux Jun 2016 #6

Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 01:52 PM

1. Dude when you stay away from the police crap you write the greatest Op's...


On a related note i don't want some asshole in DC telling me how to live my life...I presume that was the original intent of the founding fathers trying to control the future federal government....

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 25, 2016, 04:13 AM

7. Thanks, but I still feel the need for police reform is great

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 01:57 PM

2. You got my VOTE right there ...

"Nationalism is nothing more than thinking that you should have more say in how your country is run."

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:05 PM

3. ...

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Response to SavannahMan (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:05 PM

4. Very well written OP...

This echoes my take on the whole Brexit. Bureaucrats in Brussels were largely seeing to the best interests of Germany. So for, Britain, the choice was go along on with what is good for Germany or choose a more uncertain course.

Scotland and Northern Ireland may bleat about leaving Britain, but the EU isn't going to be as kind with the handouts.

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Response to smoke check (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:42 PM

5. Spain will not allow Scotland to enter the EU

Every member state gets a veto when admitting new members. With the Catalonians' desire for independence from Spain, Spain will NOT allow Scotland to serve as a role model for the Catalonians!

Can anyone say "quagmire?"

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Response to Texas_mom (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:05 PM

6. Too bad the Catalonians and the Caledonians can't unite in common cause

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