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Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:30 PM

I’m A Doctor. Here’s What I Find Most Concerning About Trump’s Medical Letter

Donald Trump is talking about Hillary Clinton’s health, as are two doctors who have never evaluated Clinton. They have apparently diagnosed her with all kinds of ailments using the long disproven Fox-Drudge equation.

This attention on Clinton has renewed some interest in the letter Donald Trump released last year from his personal physician. Many outlets have picked it apart, but I want to tell you as a doctor exactly how bad it is. I would never write anything this terrible for a jury duty excuse or a back to work note, never mind something that half the country (and possibly half the world) might see or could possibly end up one day in a presidential library!

There are so many issues with the letter I’m going to just start at the beginning:

1. The header has a non-working web address, and doctors don’t include e-mail addresses in letters.

It is incredibly rare for doctors to include an e-mail address in this kind of correspondence because we don’t want the person receiving the letter (e.g. the entire press corps or the place of work or the disability insurance company) to e-mail back with questions about our patient’s health. This could lead to a HIPAA (privacy) violation. Also, gmail is not a secure method of communication, so most doctors don’t want to use it for medical information. We doctors also don’t put our e-mail address in letters because we don’t want patients using unsecured methods of contact. I’m happy to have my patients e-mail me, they just need to do it through our secure server. The e-mail address is really odd, but then again it could be a fancy concierge doctor thing.

Except a fancy concierge doctor would probably have a working website. Really, you’re writing a letter for someone who wants to be President and this is what we get at http://www.haroldbornsteinmd.com, a weird website with a name and links to other services?

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So, another lie from Don the Con. Anybody surprised?

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Reply I’m A Doctor. Here’s What I Find Most Concerning About Trump’s Medical Letter (Original post)
Immacolata Aug 2016 OP
Immacolata Aug 2016 #1
Argentina Aug 2016 #13
Immacolata Aug 2016 #16
NavyBrat Aug 2016 #2
Frankenvoter Aug 2016 #4
NavyBrat Aug 2016 #7
Frankenvoter Aug 2016 #8
Argentina Aug 2016 #10
Frankenvoter Aug 2016 #12
Immacolata Aug 2016 #17
Frankenvoter Aug 2016 #21
Immacolata Aug 2016 #23
Frankenvoter Aug 2016 #24
Model10RB Aug 2016 #3
Duke Lacrosse Aug 2016 #5
Model10RB Aug 2016 #6
Duke Lacrosse Aug 2016 #9
Scary Red Aug 2016 #11
Argentina Aug 2016 #14
Ben_Ghazi Aug 2016 #15
Immacolata Aug 2016 #18
nolens volens Aug 2016 #20
liberalguy Aug 2016 #19
Frankenvoter Aug 2016 #22
Letmypeoplevote Aug 2016 #25
Immacolata Aug 2016 #26
His Daughter Aug 2016 #27
liberalguy Aug 2016 #28

Response to Immacolata (Original post)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:31 PM

1. Donald Trump "Medical Letter" Likely Completely Fake



David Pakman commentary/analysis on this issue. Interesting...

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Response to Immacolata (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 04:02 PM

13. Excellent video. I'd recommend it if I could. Trump must either have written the letter himself or

had one of his closest assistants write it.

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Response to Argentina (Reply #13)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 04:18 PM

16. Ha! Maybe Meredith wrote it

Seriously, though, I think Trump wrote it, just like I think Trump wrote Melania's speech.

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Response to Immacolata (Original post)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:34 PM

2. My favorite part was the claim that all of Trump's results came back ...

 

positive. For what? Herpes? Syphilis? HepC? Alzheimer's?
There is no way that an actual MD wrote that letter.
Trump lied. Again. Shocking.

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Response to NavyBrat (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:38 PM

4. Hillary lies all the time, about everything

Including what caused an ambassador and others to get dead in Benghazi, as well as whether or not she sent classified info over an unsecured server potentially setting her up for blackmail by foreign interests.

Who'd of thunk it.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:43 PM

7. Maybe you should start a thread about that instead of ...

 

engaging in a series of comically desperate deflections pertaining to your chump's manifest shortcomings.
Just a thought.

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Response to NavyBrat (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:49 PM

8. No, I dont think I will.

Reminding people about a dead ambassador brought about by Hillarys ineptitude and then her lies about it afterward is a "comic deflection"?



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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:52 PM

10. This OP isn't about Hillary, it's about Trump. Please confine your comments about Hillary to OPs

about Hillary.

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Response to Argentina (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:56 PM

12. No, I dont think I will.

Were I to start a thread about Hillarys lies, there would be all kinds of hillbots piling on about how it doesn't matter, because of trumps lies, and how they all do it, blah, blah, and McBlah.

Do you not like being reminded about the lies she told the family members of people that met their deaths in Benghazi due to her ineptitude?

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 04:21 PM

17. So what you're saying is that you have no defense for Donald Trump's blatant lies?

"But Hillary" or "Hillary did it" is your only defense? That's damned pathetic.

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Response to Immacolata (Reply #17)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:25 PM

21. I'm not saying Trump DID lie

But even if he did, what's worse, the very few your side can find to pile on about, or the serial, habitual nature of Hillary's lies? That's what I am pointing out.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #21)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:34 PM

23. So in other words you have no defense.

Do you know why I call that the PeeWee Herman tactic? Responding to one candidate's faults, not by addressing the issue, but by pointing out another's faults?

"I know you are, but what am I?" Ridiculous.

I'm not saying I'm perfect; sometimes in spite of my best intentions, I do it too. But not like you right wingers do. You have no defense for his fuckups, so you stick your fingers in your ears and shout "Cankles!" or "Benghazi!" or somesuch bullshit.

It doesn't make you look good, honey.

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Response to Immacolata (Reply #23)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:40 PM

24. Well, it''s obvious hillary supporters dont like having the truth about her spoken about

They are so used to knowing everything will be covered up and buried in the mainstream press, that when items pop up online or in alternative media the fur goes up and you are left with "were talking about trump here!!" , the thumbs go in YOUR ears, and you start humming la la la la la to yourselves.

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Response to Immacolata (Original post)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:36 PM

3. HIPPA

A doctor cannot do a diagnosis over the phone (or via YouTube), and even if they do, they cannot talk about their opinion.

This is all bullshit. The OP is spot on.

Edit: That's HIPAA

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Response to Model10RB (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:40 PM

5. That's HIPAA.

JADP

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:42 PM

6. A Hippa is a baby Hippo.

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Response to Model10RB (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:50 PM

9. Cute!

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Response to Immacolata (Original post)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 03:52 PM

11. Just another Trump sock-- didn't he stop doing this years ago?

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Response to Immacolata (Original post)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 04:04 PM

14. Trump probably has something medical to hide like senile dementia which would explain the

stupid things he says and does.

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Response to Immacolata (Original post)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 04:11 PM

15. for his age, trump is in extraordinary shape.

He runs circles around grandma every day. Trump has three rallies and press conferences before hillary can finish her morning constituional.

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Response to Ben_Ghazi (Reply #15)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 04:26 PM

18. Then why is he forging letters?

That's what you should address. We are all aware that you don't like Hillary. How do her shortcomings turn that letter into truth?

They don't. Trump's a liar, and a pathetic one at that.

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Response to Immacolata (Reply #18)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 04:40 PM

20. Sadly

they're both liars...and we're to blame.

We the people are getting the choices we deserve.

Trump may be the biggest bag of crap the republicans have put up in decades.

I'm thinking both parties had people who were far, far better. Luckily for the democrats Trump pops up when the best they have to offer is HRC.

That letter is truly a very sad piece of fiction. One more lie in a long list of them.

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Response to Immacolata (Original post)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 04:36 PM

19. His whole campaign is a big bullshit detector calibration test.

 

Most of us are failing.

"Astonishingly excellent" Yup, that there's fancy doctor-speak.

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Response to liberalguy (Reply #19)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 05:27 PM

22. "His whole campaign is a big bullshit detector calibration test."

So what does that make Hillary's? Truth telling 101?

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Response to Immacolata (Original post)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 06:07 PM

25. This letter is clearly forged

This letter is forged https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/im-a-doctor-these-are-the-things-i-find-concerning-with-trumps-medical-letter/
Dr. Bornstein is affiliated with Lennox Hill, but he is not part of their Division of Gastroenterology. There also isn’t a Department of Medicine there is a Division of General Internal Medicine and Dr. Bornstein isn’t a member of that either. Having admitting privileges and being a division member are not the same thing. Many hospitals allow doctors to have admitting privileges and not be department or division members. And what’s with this made up Section?

It is also very odd for a doctor in a private practice to use their admitting privileges address under their signature if it is not the same as their practice address.
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Response to Immacolata (Original post)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 06:18 PM

26. Update on Bornstein's website.

It no longer goes to a placeholder page. It now forwards to http://ww35.haroldbornsteinmd.com/, and you get a blank page.

To put a face to the name, here is Dr. Bornstein:

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Response to Immacolata (Original post)

Mon Aug 22, 2016, 08:17 PM

27. As a doctor, I think the note is pretty dorked up. That does not make it a fake

If it was a fake, the doctor would have said something. Its an issue well below the level of Obama's birth certificate in terms of seriousness, which is to say non issue to any thinking person.

Both candidates are old enough that health concerns are valid from both the electorate and the party.

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #27)

Tue Aug 23, 2016, 12:12 PM

28. The campaign probably said "Here, sign this"

 

And he did.

Fake? I'm sure there's a doctor out there somewhere who will sign off on any ludicrous claims that a billionaire patient insists.

If an employee were to bring me a similar note to explain an illness, I'd tell them that I don't like being treated like an idiot.

Obviously, some people do like to be treated that way. YMMV.

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