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Mon Aug 29, 2016, 02:53 AM

When did Trump become the racist the left says he is?



When he ran against a Democrat

This is Alinsky Smear Tactics and they won't work

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Reply When did Trump become the racist the left says he is? (Original post)
Gunslinger201 Aug 2016 OP
Boston Aug 2016 #1
Paradigm Aug 2016 #2
Gunslinger201 Aug 2016 #3
Attila Gorilla Aug 2016 #4
Gunslinger201 Aug 2016 #5
Sebastopolitan Aug 2016 #24
LazyZ Aug 2016 #6
graham4anything4HC45 Aug 2016 #7
Gunslinger201 Aug 2016 #8
graham4anything4HC45 Aug 2016 #10
daemons Aug 2016 #9
News2Me Aug 2016 #11
Satanica Aug 2016 #12
nolidad Aug 2016 #13
Satanica Aug 2016 #14
nolidad Aug 2016 #28
Noumenon Aug 2016 #15
Slayer Aug 2016 #16
Grumpy Pickle Aug 2016 #17
Slayer Aug 2016 #18
Grumpy Pickle Aug 2016 #19
Slayer Aug 2016 #21
Lifelong Aug 2016 #20
DavesNotHere Aug 2016 #22
Letmypeoplevote Aug 2016 #25
DavesNotHere Aug 2016 #26
Sebastopolitan Aug 2016 #27
Letmypeoplevote Aug 2016 #29
DavesNotHere Aug 2016 #30
Letmypeoplevote Aug 2016 #23
Letmypeoplevote Aug 2016 #31

Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 03:57 AM

1. Yes, I'm wondering how much this will backfire

The Clintons in 2008 clearly used racism against Obama.

Expect the media to point that out?

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 04:01 AM

2. About 7-1/2 years ago when the libs

redefined the now meaningless term of "racist" to mean anyone who disagrees with the lib political point of view.

I don't know if the libs actually called him "racist" back then, but that's when Trump, me, you, and anyone else that has a differing viewpoint than Lord 0 became "racist".

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Response to Paradigm (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 04:47 AM

3. If everything is racist

Nothing is racist

It's actually how "Community Organizers" operate

They have to divide people by class and race.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:00 AM

4. Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2016, explained

It’s been said again and again throughout the 2016 campaign: Donald Trump is a racist.

But it's not just the Trump campaign. Trump has been criticized for being racist for much of his career: The first time Trump appeared in the pages of the New York Times, as my colleague Dara Lind reported, was when the US Department of Justice sued him for racial discrimination. Since then, he has repeatedly appeared in newspaper pages across the world as he inspired more similar controversies.

This long history is important. It would be one thing if Trump made just a few racist remarks; one, two, or even three of these types of comments might just show a bad speaker who’s seriously racially insensitive, not necessarily a full-blown racist. Maybe even on the campaign trail, Trump is just an opportunist, saying things he doesn’t really believe to rile up voters.

But when you take all of Trump’s actions and comments, a clear pattern emerges — one that suggests that bigotry is not just campaign opportunism on Trump’s part but a real element of Trump’s personality, character, and career.

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racism-history

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:11 AM

5. VOX? That's no source

VOX Suspends editor for encouraging riots at Donald Trump rallies

Hardly unbiased

http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/03/media/vox-editor-suspended-trump-riots/index.html

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 12:24 PM

24. Well, there's this NY Times story from 1973.

 

About him being sued for discriminatory housing practices.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028129053

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:12 AM

6. Whoever the GOP candidate is

 

The left practices the policy of personal destruction. Keep the dumbed down voter distracted from the real issues. Seems to work most times but not against Trump.

He fights back and calls the media out. The anarchists don't quite know how to handle that.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:28 AM

7. Breitbart and Bannon are and it is similiar to Ron Paul and his literature and Jorg Haider

it is what it is

If Trump didn't desire that, he wouldn't have hired Breitbarts leader Bannon

It is very similar to the foundation that one of the Koch brothers was long associated with, the JBS

tis what tis tis

If he wasn't he would fire Bannon immediately after finding out(on the off-chance he didn't know.)
Remember, that Star of David incident, one would think he would have noted then? (and note, I am Jewish).

President Clinton nailed it- the alt-right media indeed.

Interesting is now Donald Trump not onlydoes not have the temperament to be President, but he has solidly
LOST the Catholic vote too, he is trailing by far over 20%, something Mitt only won by 2%.
So that is another 18% gain by TeamDemocraticParty.


Hillary, like in 100% of everything else, is 100% right-on, spot-on in what she said.
And it was a solid knockdown too.

that's my take on it. Feel free to disagree.

btw- look to his apartment complex' in Brooklyn on the way to Coney Island.
I have a friend whose father bought in at the beginning and now after his fathers death he lives there.
There were very extreme quotos employed as to who did and did not get to move in.
Which was probably at the time, and as the years moved on certainly is 100% illegal if someone stopped
someone from moving in based on race or religion. (not positive what year those were built and what regulations were on the Federal Housing Laws at the time. But they certainly are on now- if you have an apartment open for rent- any person who inquires has to be allowed to rent under the law (aka law=constitution)

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:32 AM

8. Hillary is ill, graham

And we're going to uncover the coverup

So yo y'all can stand and scream Racist, but nobody in their right mind believes Trumps a Racist. Sorry

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #8)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:37 AM

10. Re-elect President Clinton 2020 and Michelle Obama46/Cory Booker 2024 and 2028

Tim Kaine is a cool 47th VP for the next 8 years.

Trump is puffy, has high blood pressure

and all the health concern on President Clinton is touching.

BTW- note the paragraph at the bottom of my last post above, that I added on-
showing how his apartment complex illegally kept people from renting at the time.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:33 AM

9. When he started saying racist things

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:43 AM

11. When he started talking like one to appeal to his base.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:45 AM

12. Lol

 

Donald Trump became a racist when he got sued for racism

Jeeesh

Look it up guys

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:47 AM

13. It will work with democrats!

They are conditioned to believe smears without proof.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #13)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:56 AM

14. Lol

 

At this point I thought everybody involved in the political issues in this country were aware that Donald Trump was sued for being racist

How can you not be aware of this?

You were supporting a man that you don't even know

Start here http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/855553

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Response to Satanica (Reply #14)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 04:44 PM

28. First, I don't support Trump.

Second hearsay allegations and failed lawsuits are not a whole ot of evidence.

Trump is crass, crude, will go after anybody and everybody- but racist? I still don't see it.

He is more of a bronx palooka.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 06:21 AM

15. When he realized that sounding like a racist would bag him a primary.

His main problem seems to have been not realizing that it wouldn't play well in the general. I'd blame his narcissism for that. He is incapable of criticizing anyone who says he's awesome. It's why Putin would own President Trump's orange ass in a Moscow Minute.

If we were the awesome salesman his mythology creates, imagine how revolutionary it would have been if his convention speech said -- "Look, I'm a businessperson. I know how to make a sale and its by knowing what my customers want. I did it during the primary, even though it isn't who Donald J. Trump actually is. It also isn't who a majority of the American people are. We are a single nation that needlessly tears itself apart over issues that should not matter when it comes the the business of governing this great land. Here are my proposals to change this country for the better."

A lost opportunity.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 08:04 AM

16. He was born into it.

 

He is own words convict him on the matter.

You know what, I have spent a lifetime helping animals, but I don't beleive they are my equal. That pretty much sums up trumps view towards blacks and this op.

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Response to Slayer (Reply #16)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 08:28 AM

17. The society was very different when Trump grew up.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #17)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 08:52 AM

18. So then, in winger land that earns him a pass?

 

Gotcha.

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Response to Slayer (Reply #18)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 09:23 AM

19. I don`t know what he really thinks about race.

Neither do you.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 09:31 AM

20. I don't know.

What I do know is that I miss Bernie along with the issues people wanted to hear. Not whether Trump or Hillary are racist.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:43 AM

22. Just a few short months ago, the same people were calling Bernie a racist. n/t

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Response to DavesNotHere (Reply #22)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 12:31 PM

25. No one was calling Bernie a racist

I was involved in many of these discussions on DU and other boards. Sanders appeal was limited to mainly white voters which is why he never had a chance of being the nominee. There were valid reasons why Sanders never made major inroads with non-white voters or older voters that had nothing to do with race. Now there were some bernie bros and bernie or bust types who were offensive and whose conduct hurt Sanders.

This is a decent analysis of why the Sanders revolution ended up failing http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-democrats-race-racial-divide-213948

Though it might offend his uber-progressive supporters to hear this, the Sanders insurgency is largely a white revolution. All the talk about Sanders representing the future of the Democratic Party because of his overwhelming popularity among young people leaves out an important caveat: He couldn’t persuade minority voters to sign on. In many ways a Sanders victory, propelled by the least diverse states in the nation, would have been a step backward in American race relations. Now that Hillary Clinton has laid claim convincingly to the nomination with decisive wins in California and New Jersey, the party—and Bernie’s supporters—are at a crossroads. If they insist on maintaining their purist divide from Clinton, they will create a rift in the party that’s not just ideological, but racial.

Barring an asteroid strike that extinguishes life on Earth, the American electorate will be much more diverse in coming elections than it is today, especially the portion of it that Democrats plan to rely on. There are now more non-white than white babies being born every year, and the under-18 crowd is close to reaching majority-minority status as well. That’s the Democrats’ greatest potential strength, which grows only more pronounced the closer Trump comes to being officially named the GOP nominee.

But it’s also a fault line. Sanders coming from seemingly nowhere to seriously challenge Clinton while drawing historically large and enthusiastic crowds has soaked up much of the attention in the Democratic race, making it feel as though he’s hit a chord that resonates throughout the party. But his brand of idealism has been rejected by the majority of minority voters—Clinton won every contest with at least a 10 percent black population, except Michigan, and each state where Latinos make up at least 10 percent of eligible voters, except Colorado, according to Harry Enten of FiveThirtyEight.com. On top of that, they have been mocked by some Sanders supporters for supposedly “voting against their self-interest” because they refuse to believe a political revolution is at hand. That has been particularly galling to black voters who had to endure claims from conservatives in 2008 that they were voting for Barack Obama only because of race—even though they had spent their entire adult lives voting mostly for white presidential candidates. Now their preference for Clinton’s brand of pragmatism, something they’ve seen result in real progress time and again, is being questioned as well, this time by fellow Democrats.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-democrats-race-racial-divide-213948#ixzz4Ik99Bzry
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Sanders' failure to appeal to key segments of the Democratic base doomed his chances at the nomination. I was a delegate to the national convention for Clinton and no one I dealt with felt that Sanders was racist and that our reasons for not supporting Sanders had nothing to do with race.

I was pleased to see Sanders support Hillary Clinton at the convention and to see so many of his supporters support Clinton at the convention.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #25)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 03:03 PM

26. As I remember it, Sanders supporters were often called racists and the, often unwritten, implication

was because Sanders was. On rare occasion, someone would come out and say it. I'm discounting the times conservative posts came out an said what was being implied.

http://www.discussionist.com/1015707917

And who can forget Netroots Nation
http://www.discussionist.com/1015533079

If you care to venture over to the DU, you can take a look at some of bravenak's musings on this as well, but I'm not linking to that.

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Response to DavesNotHere (Reply #26)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 03:10 PM

27. Yeah, that was really ugly and disgusting.

 

And weird. The most hyper-radical posters were adamant Hillary Clinton supporters.

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Response to DavesNotHere (Reply #26)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 04:55 PM

29. Here is a thread that Bravenak started on DU citing the Politico article

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512163684 I am not a member of the African American group but I was amazed at some of the attacks against posters on that forum on DU.

I did not support Sanders for a host of reasons. None of these reasons involved race. While Sanders supporters had issues, I do not remember people attacking Sanders on this other than to complain that Prof. Cornel West was a really bad surrogate for Sanders.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #29)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 05:03 PM

30. I'll be honest, I don't recall YOU doing that, and it doesn't seem in your character so I didn't

even bother to waste my time checking, but on both the right and left, there is a contingent of people just waiting to hear something happen so they can call it racism. It doesn't really matter what happened, if there were any people of color involved, somehow, there was racism at play in someone's opinion. And if there were no POC involved, then that's racist too. It's very much like Rule #34 (if it exists, there is porn of it). If it exists, someone has called it racist.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 12:20 PM

23. Inside the government’s racial bias case against Donald Trump’s company, and how he fought it

Tell that to the people Trump denied housing to https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-governments-racial-bias-case-against-donald-trumps-company-and-how-he-fought-it/2016/01/23/fb90163e-bfbe-11e5-bcda-62a36b394160_story.html

Federal investigators also gathered evidence. Trump employees had secretly marked the applications of minorities with codes, such as “No. 9” and “C” for “colored,” according to government interview accounts filed in federal court. The employees allegedly directed blacks and Puerto Ricans away from buildings with mostly white tenants, and steered them toward properties that had many minorities, the government filings alleged.

In October 1973, the Justice Department filed a civil rights case that accused the Trump firm, whose complexes contained 14,000 apartments, of violating the Fair Housing Act of 1968.

The case, one of the biggest federal housing discrimination suits to be brought during that time, put a spotlight on the family empire led by its 27-year-old president, Donald Trump, and his father, Fred Trump, the chairman, who had begun building houses and apartments in the 1930s. The younger Trump demonstrated the brash, combative style that would make him famous, holding forth at a news conference in a Manhattan hotel to decry the government’s arguments as “such outrageous lies.” He would also say that the company wanted to avoid renting apartments to welfare recipients of any color but never discriminated based on race.

The Trumps retained Roy Cohn, a defense attorney who two decades earlier had been a top aide to Sen. Joseph McCarthy (R-Wis.) during his infamous effort to root out communists in government. Cohn portrayed the Trumps as the victims and counter-sued the government, demanding it pay them $100 million for falsely accusing them of discrimination.
Housing discrimination is a great way to win the votes of African American voters

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Aug 29, 2016, 07:17 PM

31. Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2016, explained

Trump is and has been a racist for a very long time http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racism-history

Here’s a breakdown of Trump’s history, taken largely from Lind’s list and a recent op-ed by Nicholas Kristof in the New York Times:

1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.

1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump's Castle, accused another of Trump's businesses of discrimination. "When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor," Brown said. "It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back."
1988: In a commencement speech at Lehigh University, Trump spent much of his speech accusing countries like Japan of "stripping the United States of economic dignity." This matches much of his current rhetoric on China.

1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the "Central Park Five" — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, "BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!" The teens’ convictions were later vacated, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump argued that because they were probably, according to him, involved in other criminal activity that night, they were treated too well.

1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: "Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control." Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that "the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true."

1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.

2000: In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a "record of criminal activity is well documented."

2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a black contestant, for being overeducated. "You're an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything," Trump said on the show. "At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’"

2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he "wasn't particularly happy" with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering "an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world."

2010: Just a few years ago, there was a huge national controversy over the "Ground Zero Mosque" — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it "insensitive," and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, "Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff."

2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first black president — was not born in the US. He even sent investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama's birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a "carnival barker."

2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, "I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?"

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