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Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:57 PM

 

Filthy white bitches

Black-clad protesters gathered in front of Dartmouth Hall Thursday night, forming a crowd roughly one hundred fifty strong.

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Throngs of protesters converged around fellow students who had not joined in their long march. They confronted students who bore “symbols of oppression” such as “gangster hats” and Beats-brand headphones. The flood of demonstrators opened the doors of study spaces with students reviewing for exams. Those who tried to close their doors were harassed further. One student abandoned the study room and ran out of the library. The protesters followed her out of the library, shouting obscenities the whole way.

Students who refused to listen to or join their outbursts were shouted down:“Stand the f*** up!” “You filthy racist white piece of s***!” Men and women alike were pushed and shoved by the group.

“If we can’t have it, shut it down!” they cried. Another woman was pinned to a wall by protesters who unleashed their insults, shouting “filthy white b****!” in her face.

http://campusreform.org/?ID=6990

"roughly one hundred fifty strong"

One blogger nails it:

Naked malice aside, there’s an almost surreal aspect to consider. The so-called “activists” claim to be besieged by unseen forces and “oppressed” by “structural racism on campus” – a phenomenon they can’t point to or even define convincingly – and yet their own behaviour illustrates the perversity of this pretence. Those acting out their psychodrama clearly assume they can do so with impunity, with no apparent fear of expulsion or reprimand, or physical resistance. And were the tribal roles reversed and a white mob were harassing women, shoving students with browner skin, and screaming racial epithets, the institutional response would doubtless be very, very different.

Emphasis mine.

http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2015/11/dont-oppress-my-people-with-your-branded-headphones.html

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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:01 PM

1. I think that "filthy white b****!" would have sufficed - as it did in the article . . .



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Response to akaConcernedCanuk (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:07 PM

2. If the hooligans were determined to scream it in public why can't we read it in public?

 

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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:09 PM

3. From Update 2...

"Dartmouth College has responded to intensely negative national media coverage over a Black Lives Matter protest that harassed white students by issuing an apology, not to the students who were harassed, but instead to the protesters themselves for being subject to conservative criticism."

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Response to Gamle-ged (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:12 PM

4. Vy are zese Jews alvays schtarting ze troubles?

 

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:14 PM

5. Ich bin ein Zionist!...

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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:15 PM

6. One comment:

"Words are violence, but pushing and shoving people isn't.

Isn't doublethink wonderful?"

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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:16 PM

7. Time for a race war?

They're pushing for it. They want it.

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Response to NLD (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:18 PM

8. I don't want a race war as many of my conservative idols are black.

 

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:19 PM

9. Think back

to the last time it mattered what you wanted.

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Response to NLD (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:54 PM

10. I'm not giving up my friends and fellow patriots just because you slithered along.

 

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:02 PM

11. That's something.

What, I don't know. Clearly, we're not operating on the same wavelength.

Your friends are black and you think I've somehow asked you to give them up in a race war? This isn't about you. It's about the animals clamoring for "justice".

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Response to NLD (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 11:29 AM

13. Nobody with any sense at all wants a race war.

Do you want one?

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Response to 762Justice (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 02:38 PM

15. Nor a "Gender War"! Nor a "Culture War"! Nor a "Religious War"! Nor a "Class War"!

..., and yet every times I looked outside my windows, that's all I see!

Isn't DIVERSITY great?

It's NEVER a dull moment in my neighbourhood, just as long as I NEVER forget to take my roadmap leading me through all the radical HOT Spots between home and work.

If you know what I mean....

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Response to NLD (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:49 PM

17. No they don't.

That's why all they do is bitch and moan. They'll never take it further. A race war would be over faster than Desert Storm and they know it.

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Response to NLD (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:11 AM

201. That's ridiculous

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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 10:44 AM

12. and Dartmouth apologized to *them* instead of the people disrupted, cussed at and shoved?

If they aren't punished for their behavior, I'd start planning my transfer to another school right about now.

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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 01:04 PM

14. "Men and women alike were pushed and shoved by the group."

Sorry, but the moment things get physical is the moment I open fire.

In fact, the moment an angry, shouting asshole starts advancing towards me, they're going to be drawn down on, and anything other than coming to a screeching halt will get them shot. I'm small, even for a female. I'm not letting an angry, violent person into close quarters.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 05:18 PM

18. Do you practice weapons retention techniques?

If they're close enough to draw on they're probably close enough to take a grab at your gun

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Response to Smoke (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:33 PM

21. I do.

But that consideration was why I tacked on that bit about firing on someone approaching in anger. If I've let an obviously worked up, dangerous person get into shoving distance, I've already screwed up.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:18 AM

23. Damn right

 

These people are finally crossing the line from liberal enables rabble to dangerous mobs. I will defend myself and my family from any group of thugs that threaten me or mine.
If these idjuts really want "equality" or whatever they are whining about they might consider that if they act like animals they will be treated as such. They are going about it the wrong way but I think they are doing it to purposely start a race war, so they can then stand back and say "see whites are racist after all"
What really amazes me though is they have their first black president, and rather than celebrate the fact, the race baiting left has managed to push their crap to the point that race relations are back to the 1950's. Things were going along just fine untill they started rabble rousing.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:16 AM

24. Terrorism is wrong. Please stop making terrorist threats against university students.

"Men and women alike were pushed and shoved by the group."

Sorry, but the moment things get physical is the moment I open fire.


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Response to cilantro (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:22 AM

25. *Sigh*

Self defense is not terrorism.

*Sigh*

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:02 AM

27. What did the Dartmouth students do to deserve being massacred in that Library? (nt)

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Response to cilantro (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:14 AM

28. What students were massacred?

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #28)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:15 AM

29. See the threat in post #14.

What students were massacred?

That poster has yet to carry out his or her threat.




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Response to cilantro (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:19 AM

31. *Sigh*

Stating an intent to act in legitimate self defense if violently assaulted is not terrorism.

*Sigh*

Reading (comprehension) is fundamental, yet escapes so many.

*Sigh*

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:20 AM

32. What did the Dartmouth students do to deserve being massacred in that Library?

Stating an intent to act in legitimate self defense if violently assaulted is not terrorism.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #32)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:24 AM

34. *Sigh*

No one was massacred.

*Sigh*

What did the students who were peacefully studying and bothering no one do to deserve the verbal and physical assault to which they were subjected?

*Sigh*

I knew that standards for instructors had fallen at our universities; I was not aware that reading comprehension standards had fallen so far.

*Sigh*

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #34)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:26 AM

36. The poster has yet to carry out his or her threat.

No one was massacred.

What did the students who were peacefully studying and bothering no one do to deserve the verbal and physical assault to which they were subjected?

What exactly did the Dartmouth students do to deserve being massacred in that library?

You keep avoiding the question.



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Response to cilantro (Reply #36)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:47 AM

41. *Sigh*

I've answered the question at least twice.

You either lack the cognitive ability to comprehend the answer or the integrity to acknowledge that the question was answered.

*Sigh*

What did the students who were peacefully studying and bothering no one do to deserve the verbal and physical assault to which they were subjected?

You have yet to answer this question.

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #41)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:51 AM

44. This isn't about anybody's objections to a student protest.


What did the students who were peacefully studying and bothering no one do to deserve the verbal and physical assault to which they were subjected?

Folks are entitled to their opinions.

Post #14 goes much further, in that it threatens a school shooting in a school library.

One can disagree with a student protest without threatening to massacre the students involved.







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Response to cilantro (Reply #44)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:55 AM

49. Post 14 discusses acting in self defense to a violent assault.

Why do you support the verbal and physical assault of students who are studying and bothering no one?

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #49)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:56 AM

50. Disagreement with protest methods does not justify a school massacre. (nt)

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Response to cilantro (Reply #50)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:59 AM

51. Violent unprovoked assaults of students who are studying

are not "protests". They are crimes.

Why do you support violent unprovoked assaults of students who are studying and bothering no one?

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #51)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:08 AM

52. How would a school shooting of students in the Dartmouth Library help?

Nobody has been able to explain this.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #52)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:16 PM

99. Why should someone be prohibited

From acting in self defense in a school building. Why do you support violent criminals?

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #99)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:18 PM

100. Passive-aggresive pacifist is passive-aggressive.

But I'm certainly not going to let a slanderer with bizarre views about how one should react to assault influence my take on this situation.

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #99)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:20 PM

103. How would a school shooting in the Dartmouth library help?

Why should someone be prohibited

From acting in self defense in a school building. Why do you support violent criminals?

You have yet to explain this.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #103)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:33 PM

163. How does supporting criminal assault in the

school Library help? Why so you support violent assaults? You have yet to explain this.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #103)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:28 AM

206. How does assaulting peoe and calling them white bitches help?

If dumb shit is already being done...

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Response to cilantro (Reply #103)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:48 PM

208. .. >giggle<




See you in December..

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Response to cilantro (Reply #52)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:17 PM

176. I can explain it.

If groups of people attempt to commit physical violence against smaller and outnumbered adversaries, and get their dumb asses killed doing it, they stop committing physical violence.

That's how it helps.

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Response to 762Justice (Reply #176)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:21 PM

177. School shootings are not the solution.

I can explain it.

If groups of people attempt to commit physical violence against smaller and outnumbered adversaries, and get their dumb asses killed doing it, they stop committing physical violence.

That's how it helps.

Just because you want to see some folks murdered doesn't make it right.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #177)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:25 PM

181. I am fine with people that commit violent and unprovoked assaults being killed.

So are most states. There is even a name for it.

It does not matter where it happens. You could call them Burger King shootings, or rest stop shootings. The end result is a person that was unable to control themselves got put down, and that is what we call a good day at the office.

Cry and argue all you want, but it is common sense, and the law.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #177)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:57 PM

194. What did Malcolm X say?

Isn't he one of the left's hero's?

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Response to cilantro (Reply #50)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:16 AM

55. Being assaulted physically is NOT a Protest , it is an assault. Should you lay your hands upon me

I have the right to defend myself. IF Multiple assailants attack you, you have the right to use force as necessary to defend yourself

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #55)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:19 AM

58. How would a school shooting in the Dartmouth Library have helped?

You haven't explained that.

I get that you disapprove of the student protests and their methods, but you have yet to explain how a school shooting in that same library would have helped.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #58)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:26 AM

59. I don't have to explain that, someone assaults you you have the RIGHT to defend yourself

Do you comprehend what an assault is?

IF I lay my hand upon you with intent to cause you harm

You have the right to do as you see fit to stop me


IF I and others lays hand upon you to cause harm

You have the right ti use as much force as necessary to defend yourself


Your logic is- ''why resist rape'', and blame the victim.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #59)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:30 AM

60. Do you understand what a school shooting is?

I don't have to explain that, someone assaults you you have the RIGHT to defend yourself

You haven't explained how a school shooting in the Dartmouth Library would have helped because you know that it wouldn't help.

School shootings in university libraries are not an appropriate method for dealing with student protests, even if you disagree with the protest and its methods.

You know that and I know that.






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Response to cilantro (Reply #60)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:33 AM

61. You're trolling pure and simple at this point, You even made a false alert

You excuse Mob Violence against someone and blame the victim like is done by some to Rape Victims

Shame on you

Using your logic a Black person has no right to defend themselves from a Ku Klux Klan assault

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #61)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:40 AM

65. How would shooting Dartmouth student protestors in their own library have helped?

Neither you nor anybody else has been able to explain that.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #65)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:48 AM

70. How would allowing those students to physically harm someone have helped? since you excuse that

you seem to not want to answer that?

You apparently enjoy the thought of BLM attackers assaulting white students and not wanting those whites to be able to defend themselves

that's pretty racist if you

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #70)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:50 AM

71. Is it racist to oppose school shootings now?

that's pretty racist if you

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Response to cilantro (Reply #71)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:59 AM

73. Nice deflection. Your comments are racist, you excuse Blacks asssaulting Whites then complain

about terrorism, if a person says they would defend themselves from Mob Violence

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #73)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:00 PM

74. Opposition to school shootings does not make one a racist.

Even those who propose school shootings to deal with student protests seem unable to make the case that school shootings would help.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #74)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:03 PM

78. Keep pounding that drum, no one believes you and your racist claims

Excusing Blacks assaulting Whites DOES make your comments racist.

No one has the right to assault others, Black, White, Asian, Hispanic...

EVERYONE has the right to defend themselves from Assault by Blacks Whites, Asians, Hispanics...

Just because they are in a school doesnt mean they suddenly have a right to assault someone

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #78)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:05 PM

82. Opposition to school shootings does not make one a racist. (nt)

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Response to cilantro (Reply #65)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:11 PM

93. Not a school shooting

A self-defensive action that just happens to be in a school.

There's nothing magical about it being a library. A library SHOULD be a safe space. A bunch of "concerned students" violated the sanctity of that safe space.

If one or two ended up with bullets in the bellies, then they called that upon themselves.

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Response to LeeCPTINF (Reply #93)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:14 PM

96. You are promoting terrorism.

If one or two ended up with bullets in the bellies, then they called that upon themselves.

School shootings are not an nappropriate solution to student protests.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #96)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:24 PM

106. Student assaults

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Response to cilantro (Reply #96)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:25 PM

109. If that's what you want to call it, fine

I call it self defense.

Tell you what, we can let a jury decide. I'm fairly confident I'm right.

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Response to LeeCPTINF (Reply #109)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:27 PM

112. School shootings are terrorism.

I call it self defense.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #112)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:29 PM

114. Circular arguments are tautalogical

Threatening my kids is a death penalty offense.

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Response to LeeCPTINF (Reply #114)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:35 PM

124. +1 for correct identification of a tautological argument!

The poster is re-defining words, then employing those self-serving definitions in a circular argument. Does no one teach critical thinking skills any more?

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Response to Tovera (Reply #124)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:21 PM

178. Some people are unteachable.

This guy will get himself locked out again shortly, and won't learn a thing.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #65)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 06:14 PM

195. Just to shut you up and make you take your fantasies

somewhere else I will tell you why it would help:

There won't be a next time.

Does that make you happy? Because smack me once and I'll be damned if I'm going to sit there and snivel and take it. I don't own a gun, but I do know that a heavy, blunt instrument is capable of delivering a message.

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Response to AmandaMatthews (Reply #195)

Sun Nov 22, 2015, 04:29 AM

203. Ten dollars in loose quarters in a zip lock bag with the air pushed out tied in the end of a sock.

come over the top with a full swing and hit head bone. Then head for the nearest bar and spend those quarters on something important.

You don't need a gun.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #203)

Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:52 AM

205. True. In reality all that's needed are cops with handcuffs and

a vehicle to take these criminals to hail. Because that is what they are.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #61)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 04:29 PM

189. Trolling is all he does.

He cannot win an argument without attempting to "redefine" words to mean the opposite of their purpose; he cannot admit when a question has been answered.

His sole purpose is to make outrageous posts in an attempt to provoke a response that can be hidden.

He's not even very good at that.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #50)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:05 PM

83. It does if those "protest methods" include assault.

Obviously...

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Response to Tovera (Reply #83)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:06 PM

84. School shootings in university libraries are not the answer.

It does if those "protest methods" include assault.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #84)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:08 PM

86. They are most certainly a viable answer to assault.

Read up a bit on the law before you stick your foot in you mouth yet again.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #86)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:10 PM

91. You don't get to shoot student protestors in their own library.

They are most certainly a viable answer to assault.

I don't know why you think that you do.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #91)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:13 PM

95. I do if they commit assault.

I don't know why you would think otherwise, except due to utter ignorance of the law. ProTip: it doesn't permit assault, in a library or otherwise.

And again: stop slandering me. Seriously.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #95)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:19 PM

101. No, you do not have the right to murder Dartmouth students.

I do if they commit assault.

You just don't.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #101)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:21 PM

104. Irrelevant, since that wouldn't be murder.

I have the right (legal and ethical) to use force in self-defense. Does that give you a sad?

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Response to Tovera (Reply #104)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:23 PM

105. I would be very sad if you murdered those Dartmouth students in their own library.

Irrelevant, since that wouldn't be murder.

I have the right (legal and ethical) to use force in self-defense. Does that give you a sad?


Every bit as sad as I was when Adam Lanza murdered all those students and teachers.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #105)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:27 PM

111. See above. Repeat as needed.

And admit it: you're just trying to get me and others in this thread to get annoyed enough at your silly replies (and slander) to post something hideworthy. You're not being even remotely subtle.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #111)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 04:16 PM

187. It's time to ignore

this poster. He is a waste of time and energy.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #101)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:29 PM

116. Self defense is NOT Murder, as has been recognized by the courts time and again

here, PLEASE educate yourself finally

USE OF SELF-DEFENSE in Connecticut

A person is justified in using reasonable physical force on another person to defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of physical force. The defender may use the degree of force he reasonably believes is necessary to defend himself or a third person. But deadly physical force cannot be used unless the actor reasonably believes that the attacker is using or about to use deadly physical force or inflicting or about to inflict great bodily harm.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #116)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:31 PM

117. School shootings are not a right. They are a wrong. (nt)

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Response to cilantro (Reply #117)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:34 PM

121. Again the Courts say otherwise

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #121)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:21 PM

148. Look up Stone Space on DU.

 

He is also an anti-Christian bigot and doesn't think women have a right to shoot rapists.

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #148)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:22 PM

149. Now I'm an anti-Christian bigot?

He is also an anti-Christian bigot

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Response to cilantro (Reply #149)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:24 PM

153. No. You've always been a bigot. Lots of your hides on DU come from haranguing the xtians there.

 

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #153)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:25 PM

155. This is a lie.

No. You've always been a bigot. Lots of your hides on DU come from haranguing the xtians there.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #95)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:25 PM

110. Terrorism is not a right.

I do if they commit assault.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #110)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:29 PM

115. You're not even trying any more.

Ah, well..this was vaguely entertaining for a little while. You're pretty much just repeating your earlier (refuted) statements...so feel free to keep doing so, ad nauseam. I'm done unless you make an actual rigorous argument (and no, I won't be holding my breath).

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Response to cilantro (Reply #91)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:24 PM

107. The right to self defense gives you that answer

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #107)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:28 PM

113. There is no right to engage in school shootings.

The right to self defense gives you that answer

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Response to cilantro (Reply #113)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:33 PM

120. Defending yourself from mob violence is NOT a school shooting and you know that.

If this was white students at Mizzou assaulting a black student would you say the person cannot defend themselves from the attackers?

Do you say a rape victim has no right to stop an attempted rape as well?

You should really be ashamed of yourself

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #120)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:35 PM

123. We are talking about school shootings in response to student protests.

That is an inappropriate response to student protests.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #123)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:37 PM

126. No, we are talking about YOUR ''logic''

Which is racist

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #126)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:38 PM

127. It is not racist to oppose school shootings.

No, we are talking about YOUR ''logic''

Which is racist

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Response to cilantro (Reply #127)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:44 PM

133. What is racist, is your excusing a mob attack of blacks against a white student

Were the situation reversed would you still claim the student is not allowed to defend themselves?

NO one has the right to assault in a mob another student, being black does not give someone a special dispensation to commit mob violence on someone else.

You excuse it

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #133)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:47 PM

136. I would oppose school shootings, of course.

Were the situation reversed would you still claim the student is not allowed to defend themselves?

How is opposing school shootings racist?

Neither you nor any of the other advocates of shooting Dartmouth students in their own library has been able to answer this.



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Response to cilantro (Reply #136)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:48 PM

137. State v. DeJesus, 194 Conn. 376, 389 (1984)

In 1984, the Connecticut Supreme Court articulated the test for determining the degree of force warranted in a given case. Whether or not a person was justified in using force to protect his person or property is a question of fact that focuses on what the person asserting the defense reasonably believed under the circumstances (State v. DeJesus, 194 Conn. 376, 389 (1984)). The test for the degree of force in self-defense is a subjective-objective one. The jury must view the situation from the defendant's perspective; this is the subjective component. The jury must then decide whether the defendant's belief was reasonable (DeJesus at 389 n.13).

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Response to cilantro (Reply #84)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:09 PM

88. So do you also believe dont fight back against a rapist? just let it happen?

because this is the logic YOU are using

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #88)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:12 PM

94. We are talking about school shootings as a response...

...to student protests.

That's terrorism.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #94)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:15 PM

97. No, we are talking about your logic to being able to defend yourself from assaults

We are talking about your bizarre excuses for blacks assaulting whites and others and horror that a person would defend themselves against assault.



Its racist of you

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Response to cilantro (Reply #94)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:43 PM

207. You are a racist liar

You are both a racist for defending racist behavior and a liar for suggesting that physical assaults carried out by those aforementioned racists were merely protests.

The moment a protest becomes physical, your liberal narrative has eaten itself.

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #49)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:20 PM

102. Precisely.

As my post states to anyone with an adequate grasp of the language, I stated I'd use deadly force if assaulted, or if someone approaching me in anger failed to stop when told to. Which the law permits...

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Response to cilantro (Reply #44)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:04 PM

81. Again, STOP LYING .

No one, myself included, has threatened to shoot anyone over disagreement. I'm pointing out that once assaulted, I'm willing to use force to defend myself. You're being disingenuous and slanderous, and it needs to stop right now.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #36)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:17 AM

57. The poster made no threat, you're trolling now

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #57)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:25 PM

108. Has been from the start.

As we discussed off-thread, this is obviously an attempt to get one or more of us to reply in a way that might generate a hide. It's been mildly amusing to keep throwing facts back in its face, but it's not the kind of entertainment with staying power. Bored already...one likes an actual challenge.

I deleted a bit in one of my replies about carrying in the school library most every time I went there at Columbia. I think I'll put it back, right here. Just for shits and giggles...

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Response to Tovera (Reply #108)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:40 PM

129. Oh well aware this poster is trolling, its on time out over at DU so now comes here to stir shit

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Response to cilantro (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:02 PM

76. Stop lying about what I posted.

I posted nothing about a "massacre." I posted my willingness to defend myself from assault. Don't put words in my mouth. You're not even remotely qualified.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #76)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:32 PM

119. How would shooting these Dartmouth students in their own library help? (nt)

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Response to cilantro (Reply #119)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:39 PM

128. How would these Dartmouth students assaulting someone in their library help?

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #128)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:41 PM

131. It is fine to disagree with protest methods.

How would these Dartmouth students assaulting someone in their library help?

It is not so fine to start shooting up the Dartmouth Library as a response.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #131)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:45 PM

134. When Protest becomes ASSAULT, it is no longer a protest - it is mob violence

Do you as well blame Rape victims if they defend themselves?

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #134)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:49 PM

138. Disagreement with a protest does not excuse school shootings of...

...students in their own library.

When Protest becomes ASSAULT, it is no longer a protest - it is mob violence

I don't understand why you believe that it does.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #138)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:55 PM

139. State v. DeJesus, 194 Conn. 376, 389 (1984)

In 1984, the Connecticut Supreme Court articulated the test for determining the degree of force warranted in a given case. Whether or not a person was justified in using force to protect his person or property is a question of fact that focuses on what the person asserting the defense reasonably believed under the circumstances (State v. DeJesus, 194 Conn. 376, 389 (1984)). The test for the degree of force in self-defense is a subjective-objective one. The jury must view the situation from the defendant's perspective; this is the subjective component. The jury must then decide whether the defendant's belief was reasonable (DeJesus at 389 n.13).

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Response to Tovera (Reply #76)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 04:24 PM

188. Lies are all the controllers have left.

As they have neither facts, the Law or public opinion on their side.

Business as usual.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:35 PM

200. I didn't say that, and I hope it never happens with anyone BUT

You really need to be informed about where the lines are that justify self defense.
If a reasonable person would be if fear of their life or great harm to their person it is their right to defend themselves.
Pay attention to the reasonable person part. You will be required to support this in court or it will be a homicide charge.

A large crowd of angry people can very much make people fear for their lives in fact it could be argued that is exactly what that crowd was trying to do.

If you are perceived to be a violent threat because you are intentionally acting violently in a threatening manner, you should not be surprised when people react to the image that you have projected.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:02 PM

77. Engaging in verbal and physical confrontation in an aggressive manner

In hindsight, we see what their intention was. Disruptive protest.

But entering into someone's personal space, being overtly hostile and physically intimidating, at that moment one cannot be sure an act of violence isn't about to occur. Therefor lethal force is justified.

Pretty cut and dried black letter law on self defense.

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Response to LeeCPTINF (Reply #77)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:36 PM

125. No, disruptive protests do not justify school shootings.

Engaging in verbal and physical confrontation in an aggressive manner

In hindsight, we see what their intention was. Disruptive protest.

But entering into someone's personal space, being overtly hostile and physically intimidating, at that moment one cannot be sure an act of violence isn't about to occur. Therefor lethal force is justified.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #125)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:43 PM

132. You say 'disruptive protest'. I see 'simple assault'

One is a legal definition.

One is not.

Either way, a bullet in the belly.

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Response to LeeCPTINF (Reply #132)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:09 PM

143. I'm pretty sure that I saw the phrase in your post just above.

You say 'disruptive protest'.

See your post #77.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #143)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:17 PM

145. LoL Wut?

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Response to LeeCPTINF (Reply #145)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:19 PM

146. What you say I say, I say you said in post #77.

LoL Wut?

Hope that clears things up.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #146)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:23 PM

151. Violence is a great means of solving problems

To the victor goes the right.

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Response to LeeCPTINF (Reply #151)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:25 PM

154. How would shooting Dartmouth students in their own library help?

Violence is a great means of solving problems

To the victor goes the right.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #154)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:27 PM

156. Keeps other thugs from getting out of hand

Lets folks get back to studying, you know, the REASON they're in school.

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Response to LeeCPTINF (Reply #156)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:28 PM

157. School shootings are not the solution. (nt)

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Response to cilantro (Reply #157)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:32 PM

161. That seems rather absolute

Depends on the circumstances.

It just might be the solution you're looking for

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Response to LeeCPTINF (Reply #161)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:33 PM

164. This thread is about the Dartmouth student protestors.

Those are the folks who some here want shot.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #164)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:35 PM

165. Your ignorance and incomprehension is simply embarassing

No one said they wanted them shot post hoc.

What was said was that in the moment, they would have shot them because the perception is they are about to be assaulted. An assumption that would be upheld in every court of law.

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Response to LeeCPTINF (Reply #165)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:38 PM

167. School shootings are not the answer.

It's just a fantasy of the Campus Carry crowd.

They imagine that they have the right to shoot Dartmouth student protestors in their own library.

That's why they want to bring their guns on campus.

They've made that quite clear right here in this thread.





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Response to cilantro (Reply #167)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:43 PM

169. Shooting people assulting you IS the answer.

"Nya nya nya"

That's all I hear from you.

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Response to LeeCPTINF (Reply #169)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:45 PM

170. Dartmouth student protestors in their own library?

Shooting people assulting you IS the answer.

Seriously???

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Response to cilantro (Reply #170)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:53 PM

172. Why do you doubt?

How far up your fourth point of contact is your brain housing group?

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Response to cilantro (Reply #167)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 01:57 PM

209. You're an idiot.

I know you're on a well deserved time out, but it's been explained numerous times why it wouldn't be murder or terrorism, so that leads one to believe that either you're an idiot, or a troll, or both, personally, I think it's both.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:28 AM

37. Hello Stone Space. Get run off of DU so you came here to preach your cultural genocide?

 

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #37)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:33 AM

38. Opposition to school shootings is not cultural genocide.

This was a protest by Dartmouth students in their library.

It would be highly inappropriate for anybody to bring a gun into their library and start shooting these students, no matter how much the gunner might disapprove of their protest.

Hell, even bringing a gun into their library would be a crime.




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Response to cilantro (Reply #38)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:51 AM

45. It's highly appropriate to shoot thugs anytime, anywhere.

 

Try this thought. Don't be a two-bit hooligan and you won't get shot.

Funny how you made no mention of the students in the library who were being accosted by your pet fascists. They're also Dartmouth students in their library but they were just minding their own business.


Hell, even bringing a gun into their library would be a crime.

Not if the law permits it. Not that you have ever expressed much concern for the law when it might prove inconvenient to what you want. Something about you demanding gun-toting cops forcibly remove law abiding students from your class or something.

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #45)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:55 AM

48. What did these student protestors do to deserve being massacred?

Student protests are a common occurrence at universities.

Folks don't get to come on campus with guns to massacre students simply because they don't like their protests.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #48)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:17 PM

144. Racist assaults. They had no right to be violent and abusive.

 

Your defense of racist violence is telling.

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #144)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:21 PM

147. How is opposition to school shootings in university libraries racist?

Your defense of racist violence is telling.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #147)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:22 PM

150. You defend violent racists. You have violent fantasies against law abiding citizens.

 

Your posts speak for themselves.

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #150)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:24 PM

152. I'm opposed to school shootings.

You defend violent racists. You have violent fantasies against law abiding citizens.

Apparently that offends you.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #152)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:29 PM

158. No you're not because you often squeal about how you'll summon gun toting

 

cops to forcibly remove a student from your class even if that student were acting in accordance with the law.

By the way, those gun toting cops you love so much are the source of your pet racist hooligans grievances.

Which side are you on or are you too much of an opportunistic charlatan to pick sides?

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #158)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:29 PM

159. I'm opposed to school shootings.

Not sure why this offends you so much.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #159)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:31 PM

160. No. You love school shootings. You just want certain people shot, i.e. women who would shoot rapists

 

Your advocacy for the safety of racists and rapists is legendary.

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #160)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:32 PM

162. Again, I'm opposed to school shootings. (nt)

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Response to cilantro (Reply #162)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:37 PM

166. Again, you would have a woman shot for daring to defend herself.

 

That doesn't make you anti-shooting, that makes you pro-criminal.

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #166)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:39 PM

168. How would shooting those Dartmouth students in their own library help?

That doesn't make you anti-shooting, that makes you pro-criminal.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #168)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:49 PM

171. Shooting violent criminals always helps.

 

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #171)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:08 PM

174. But folks here are talking about shooting Dartmouth students.

Shooting violent criminals always helps.

The name-calling of the Dartmouth student protestors just seems to be simply an excuse for advocating a school shooting in the Dartmouth University Library.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #174)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:22 PM

179. No. They are violent criminals.

 

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #179)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:24 PM

180. You may not like Dartmouth students, but...

...that doesn't make it right to engage in school shootings in their university library.

Terrorism is not the answer.

No. They are violent criminals.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #180)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:25 PM

182. The students were the ones being assaulted by your pet racists

 

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Response to cilantro (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:01 PM

75. Please learn what words actually mean before using them.

And if you don't like me defending myself from assault, well...too fucking bad.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #75)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:03 PM

79. You don't get to murder student protestors in their own library.

And if you don't like me defending myself from assault, well...too fucking bad.

In fact, you don't get to even bring a gun into their library in the first place.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #79)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:07 PM

85. You don't get to re-define words like "murder" and "terrorism" for slanderous purposes.

Transparent flame trolling is transparent.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #85)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:09 PM

89. School shootings in university libraries are not the answer.

You don't get to re-define words like "murder" and "terrorism" for slanderous purposes.

It doesn't matter what you call them.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #89)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:10 PM

90. Assault isn't a viable protest method.

It doesn't matter what you call it.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #90)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:11 PM

92. Disagreement with protest methods does not excuse terrorism. (nt)

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Response to cilantro (Reply #92)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:16 PM

98. Completely irrelevant to the conversation, since no terrorism is involved.

Again (do I need to type s l o w l y?): you don't get to redefine words to suit your slanderous purpose. Moreover, when those "protest methods" include assault on my person, I most certainly am permitted to use force. You may not think so, but given that your opinion is in direct contradiction of the law, your view is completely irrelevant.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #98)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:34 PM

122. You don't get to shoot Dartmouth students in their own library.

Moreover, when those "protest methods" include assault on my person, I most certainly am permitted to use force.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #122)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:41 PM

130. Yet to you it is fine that these Dartmouth Students use mob vioence against other students who are

also in their library

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #130)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:03 PM

141. Disagreement with student proterstors is one thing.

When Protest becomes ASSAULT, it is no longer a protest - it is mob violence

Taking revenge on those students by engaging in a school shooting in the Dartmouth University Library is quite another.

You keep conflating the two.



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Response to cilantro (Reply #141)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:04 PM

142. Courts disagree with you- State v. DeJesus, 194 Conn. 376, 389 (1984)

In 1984, the Connecticut Supreme Court articulated the test for determining the degree of force warranted in a given case. Whether or not a person was justified in using force to protect his person or property is a question of fact that focuses on what the person asserting the defense reasonably believed under the circumstances (State v. DeJesus, 194 Conn. 376, 389 (1984)). The test for the degree of force in self-defense is a subjective-objective one. The jury must view the situation from the defendant's perspective; this is the subjective component. The jury must then decide whether the defendant's belief was reasonable (DeJesus at 389 n.13).

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Response to cilantro (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:04 PM

80. Oops, sorry, didn't know there was an agenda. Let me amend my answer. Because they were uppity

Isn't that what you were looking for?

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Response to Tovera (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:16 AM

30. Well said.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:45 PM

135. Note: cilantro alerted on this.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #135)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:42 PM

183. Ruh roh.

I clicked the link and it told me that my alert was sent? It looks like you put a link that alers your own post there? Hopefully it did not actually send an alert.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:09 PM

199. I am so horribly sorry!!

I was scrolling through this thread on my damn Chromebook and accidentally alerted on your post. The thing is so sensitive to touch. Sometimes I hate it.

Please, jury accept my apologies as well.

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Response to HerasHeaddress (Reply #199)

Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:26 AM

202. No worries!

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Response to Tovera (Reply #202)

Sun Nov 22, 2015, 07:07 AM

204. I didn't get a

message that the alert went thru or that it had been previously alerted by the poster in this thread. It did show up in the salmon color box that said Your Alert Has Been Sent so I don't get it.

Thanks for understanding. I have to be more careful.

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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:10 PM

16. The new klan

From the very beginning, BLM has been a racist group intent on promoting racism through intimidation.

These innocent people aren't being targeted and attacked because they didn't stand up or march, they are being targeted and attacked because of the color of their skin.

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Response to kc_tim (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:26 AM

35. Well said. It looks like the only solution is campus carry.

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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:14 AM

22. My daughter would have shot anyone shoving her in the belly

Teach your daughters to shoot.

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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:21 AM

33. This is true terrorism! The solution it would seem, is campus carry.

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Response to WhiskeyMakesMeHappy (Reply #33)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:35 AM

39. No guns allowed. It's a university library. (nt)

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Response to cilantro (Reply #39)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:39 AM

40. Campus carry now! Fight the new terrorism on campus! Be prepared to defend yourself!

Thankfully Texas is getting Campus Carry next year!

I understand you claim to be a teacher, does you state currently have campus carry? If not it soon will.

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Response to WhiskeyMakesMeHappy (Reply #40)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:48 AM

42. Guns are most certainly NOT allowed in my classrooms. Nor in the library here.

I understand you claim to be a teacher, does you state currently have campus carry? If not it soon will.



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Response to cilantro (Reply #42)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:51 AM

43. Campus Carry NOW! Fight the new terrorism!

What state do you teach in? I ask because it is obvious you will not answer the question asked. I'm curious to know if campus carry is the law in the state you work in.

Campus Carry is the solution to the new terrorism on campus.

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Response to WhiskeyMakesMeHappy (Reply #43)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:52 AM

46. I answered your question. No guns allowed in my classrooms. (nt)

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Response to cilantro (Reply #46)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 10:55 AM

47. Campus Carry NOW. No you didn't.

What state do you teach in?

Campus Carry is the solution to the new terrorism on campus.

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Response to WhiskeyMakesMeHappy (Reply #47)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:10 AM

53. How would a school shooting in the Dartmouth Library have helped?

Campus Carry is the solution to the new terrorism on campus.

Nobody has been able to explain this.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #53)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:13 AM

54. Nobody can answer the question because it's based on an illogical premise, i.e....

...that carrying a weapon for self-defense is the equivalent of shooting innocent people.

I take it that you are not teaching Logic classes.

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #54)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:16 AM

56. See post #14 which advocates just such an approach.

School shootings in libraries are a highly inappropriate method for dealing with student protests that one disapproves of.


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Response to cilantro (Reply #56)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:33 AM

62. #14 seems to be a reasonable stance for a person to take when threatened with physical violence.

BTW, someone is trying to get your posts hidden. I was just on a jury, and voted LEAVE IT ALONE.

Your opinions are strange but you are entitled to hold and express them.

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #62)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:37 AM

63. It is not reasonable to massacre Darthmouth students in their own library.

Not even if you disagree with some protest that they engaged in.

#14 seems to be a reasonable stance for a person to take when threatened with physical violence.


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Response to cilantro (Reply #63)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:39 AM

64. Nobody except you is talking about massacring anyone.

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #64)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:40 AM

66. See post #14.

Nobody except you is talking about massacring anyone.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #66)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:42 AM

67. Read and responded already. The position expressed in #14 is that the individual would display...

...a weapon in attempt to dissuade people from getting physical, and would be willing to fire the weapon if the people who were threatening violence actually attacked.

There is NOTHING wrong with that.

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #67)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:43 AM

68. School shootings are not the solution. (nt)

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Response to cilantro (Reply #68)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:46 AM

69. Nobody is advocating a "school shooting." A self-defense shooting that happens to occur at a school

...is not what people generally think of when they hear the term "school shooting."

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #69)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:55 AM

72. Shooting students in a university library is a school shooting.

The fact that the terrorist might disapprove of a student protest does not change that fact.



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Response to cilantro (Reply #72)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:08 PM

87. Appeal to "isness" doesn't pass muster as a logical argument.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #72)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:56 PM

140. State v. DeJesus, 194 Conn. 376, 389 (1984)

In 1984, the Connecticut Supreme Court articulated the test for determining the degree of force warranted in a given case. Whether or not a person was justified in using force to protect his person or property is a question of fact that focuses on what the person asserting the defense reasonably believed under the circumstances (State v. DeJesus, 194 Conn. 376, 389 (1984)). The test for the degree of force in self-defense is a subjective-objective one. The jury must view the situation from the defendant's perspective; this is the subjective component. The jury must then decide whether the defendant's belief was reasonable (DeJesus at 389 n.13).

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #62)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:31 PM

118. FWIW, I'm not the alerter.

I briefly considered alerting on a couple that actually slandered me, but since no one with an IQ higher than their shoe size* would take them seriously, I decided what the heck...

* I'll be generous: their shoe size in metric.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #53)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 02:25 PM

173. Campus Carry NOW. And you are evading the question again.

I suspect you teach in a state that DOES have campus carry.

Campus Carry is the solution to the new terrorism on campus!

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Response to WhiskeyMakesMeHappy (Reply #173)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:11 PM

175. Bring a gun to any of my classes and you're going to jail.

I suspect you teach in a state that DOES have campus carry.

Campus Carry is the solution to the new terrorism on campus!


Are we clear about that?



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Response to cilantro (Reply #175)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 04:14 PM

185. If it's concealed , how will you know about it?

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Response to cilantro (Reply #175)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 04:15 PM

186. Leosa

Means some people can sit armed concealed in your class all day long. Just sayin. Lots of part time or volunteer jobs grant the right.

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Response to cilantro (Reply #46)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:48 PM

184. If you are the teacher,

I see what is wrong with these kids.

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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 04:51 PM

192. I think a lot of these students just need to get dismissed from college. Seems they

are not learning anything and disturbing the students who are.

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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:29 PM

198. This thread is a wonderful thing.


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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Thu Dec 31, 2015, 06:23 PM

210. They will have loads of debt and end up with communications and AfAm study degrees

No way are most of these students in any major that will make them any money. They're already screwed.

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