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Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:03 AM

 

So after hearing all the whining by the grabbers

I started thinking about their one major disconnect.
The anti-Constitutional grabnutz have been trying to ban the most popular rifle ever made, complaining that it kills upwards of a thousand people a minute even in the hands of an untrained democrat terrorist.
And of course they cite the fact it is a semi auto death machine capable of using those obscene high capacity killer endorsed magazines.
What they don't seem to realise is that considering how long it took the police to take down the rouge democrat terrorist he could just as easily carried a single shot rifle and a couple boxes of shells.
For that matter with a little practice he could have used a Lee style hand held press and easily reloaded a couple pieces of brass in that time frame.

The silliness of the grabber crowd cannot be underestimated, thankfully the adults in congress shot down their unconstitutional bills,

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Reply So after hearing all the whining by the grabbers (Original post)
black rifles Jun 2016 OP
graham4anything4HC45 Jun 2016 #1
black rifles Jun 2016 #3
saspamco Jun 2016 #6
Squeek Jun 2016 #9
R2D42 Jun 2016 #24
fools_gold Jun 2016 #10
black rifles Jun 2016 #11
saspamco Jun 2016 #17
oldenuff35 Jun 2016 #19
ToBeIgnoredIsWinning Jun 2016 #22
ol geezer Jun 2016 #7
black rifles Jun 2016 #12
saspamco Jun 2016 #21
ToBeIgnoredIsWinning Jun 2016 #23
oldenuff35 Jun 2016 #20
Squeek Jun 2016 #8
black rifles Jun 2016 #13
I814U2CY Jun 2016 #2
Appalachian Man Jun 2016 #4
black rifles Jun 2016 #15
Appalachian Man Jun 2016 #16
Billy Jingo Jun 2016 #5
black rifles Jun 2016 #14
GiovanniJones Jun 2016 #18

Response to black rifles (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:16 AM

1. It just goes to show, the cops,their bullets their guns were there, and they were told to stand down

as they did not have proper clothing. Told to stand down.
Professionals who use their guns often.
So much for having a gun could have saved people.

and those are professionals who think nothing of using their weapons that destruct.

The whole NRA soundbyte was destroyed.

How ironic.


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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:22 AM

3. Had any private citizen been carrying,

 

it could have saved many lives. And he couldn't have been told to stand down.
Your so called "professionals" rarely fire their guns, whereas most people with concealed permits practice at the range regularly.
Your bigotry towards your fellow countrymen is showing...

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Response to black rifles (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:31 AM

6. Yeah, that's just what that club needed that night:

Lethal crossfire from some douchebag, intent on being the Good Guy With A Gun......

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Response to saspamco (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:38 AM

9. Yep, especially

if there are a couple/few other people carrying handguns and nobody knows who the real bad guy is.

Big time clusterfuck...maybe twice as many deaths...innocent people shot accidentally by one or two people wanting to play cops and robbers.

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Response to Squeek (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 01:31 AM

24. Not to mention it was last call and they were mostly all drunk

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Response to saspamco (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:08 PM

10. Yeah, somebody coulda' gotten killed!

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Response to saspamco (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:41 PM

11. Grabnutz come up with the silliest memes.

 

So you admit you want to make sure no one has a chance to defend themselves. just cower and die, it's the liberal way...
you should be ashamed...

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Response to black rifles (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 05:52 PM

17. You're the one peddling the idea that more guns always improve a situation.

I'm not going to demand you be ashamed of such an asinine idea, because I know you lack the capacity for feeling shame. I know that from years of dealing with gun nuts like you.

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Response to saspamco (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 02:16 AM

19. What that club needed that night was a good guy with a gun stopping the bad guy with a gun

That is the only way to stop bad guys with guns....

But I'm sure you think it happened another way???

A good guy with a gun finally, after three hours, stopped a bad guy with a gun....

Seems to me that if a good guy or two with guns has stopped this shooter after three minutes a lot more people would still be alive today....

You will have to explain your logic to the families of a lot of dead people who really would have liked for someone to kill that bastard before he had a chance to murder all of those people.....

Ballance that one with your gun grabbing PC BS....

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Response to saspamco (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 01:14 PM

22. Thats exactly what it needed

Your alternative reality of huddled masses waiting to be slaughtered by the only guy in a room with a gun is pathetic.

Lets just go full out and pull the ripcord. Lets say that 3-4 people were killed in the crossfire of a few citizens shooting at this guy.

If successful, those 3-4 casualties would have saved dozens of lives.

If unsuccessful, the outcome would have been EXACTLY THE SAME in that the shooter would have killed everyone he intended to kill.

There is almost no scenario where CCW carriers could have increased the overall final death count in this situation. None.

It is far more likley that others would have escaped during any gunfire exchange or that one of those people would have wounded or killed the attacker before he was given three hours to execute everyone he felt like executing.

We get it...youre a pansy and dont like the idea of the harsh reality that is life and death. Tough shit. Terrorists are here to bring that shit to your doorstep and youre sitting there crying about people who want to protect themselves and at the same time pansies like you. Its laughable.


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Response to black rifles (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:37 AM

7. There was an armed policeman doing security duty inside the club at the time.

The problem was the club was packed with people. Fired bullets have a strong tendency to go in straight lines, making it hard to shoot the killer, unless you are right next to him.
Any patrons being armed would be much a danger to other patrons, as any killers shooting up the place. Plus it could be reasonably assumed they were working with the killer and get shot by any other "good guys with guns".
Your fantasy has more holes than a worn out sieve.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:45 PM

12. Good for you, make it a point to stand in line to be shot willingly if you should happen to be

 

in that situation, You will probably loose your life, but as long as you stay true to your cause it doesn't matter...

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Response to black rifles (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 01:02 PM

21. That Heroic Good Guy With A Gun myth just never gets old for you, does it?

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Response to saspamco (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 01:18 PM

23. That pathetic begging to not be killed victim complex as a badge of honor never gets old for you....

Heres a clue: No one gets a special pink ribbon in heaven just because they allowed themselves and others to get slaughtered. All you get it dead. "But i didnt carry one of those nasty mean guns" is something to be ashamed of in that situation...not proud of.

You're free to volunteer to be the world's biggest victim if you want but no one is going to applaud you for it or get in your way. Try to suggest that we all become a slobbering victim is where the line gets drawn. I dont want or intend to ever be a back-patting victim like yourself so dont expect me to like suggestions that try to make everyone as equally defenseless as yourself.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 02:22 AM

20. That is not a reasonable assumption...

It took several minutes for the cops to get there and as every person know who carries a CCW firearm when the cops show up you instantly identify yourself in a totally non threatening manner...

Your ignorance or arrogance is showing if you believe that CCW holders and cops are that stupid when guns are involved... It is something that is talked about and taught about in the CCW Classes to include specifically calling 911 and telling the operator to inform the cops there are good guys in the building defending themselves and others.... If you can't do it yourself you yell at others to do it.....

You assume all people with guns are bad guys... I do not make that assumption and good pre warned cops don't either.

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Response to black rifles (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:51 AM

8. While I'm not what anyone would call

a "gun grabber" (there are five or six of them in my home right at this moment), I disagree that a private citizen with a gun could have saved lives.

How are people supposed to know there's only one shooter in the place? What if there are more than one private citizens carrying a gun? So private citizen A sees or hears a shooter on the other side of the club, starts shooting back, and private citizen B, in the resulting chaos, sees PC A shooting, and mistakenly shoots him thinking he's a killer. If there's no PC C with a gun and PC B survives, he gets into a shootout with the killer, and there are all these bullets flying all over the place, ricocheting off walls, etc.

If there's anything more scary than a shooter, it's a shootout between a shooter and a Good Samaritan. I'm pretty sure even the cops wouldn't do something stupid like that in a building full of people.

Also, the initial shooter, angered already, might go completely over the edge if he thinks he has to defend himself from someone who now wants to shoot HIM.

Maybe I overthink things, but I do believe that some people have a tendency to underthink things.

RAH RAH RAH!!! HOORAH/BOORAH/whatever...go off half cocked without even thinking about what could happen as a result of overenthusiastic John Wayne attitudes.

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Response to Squeek (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:49 PM

13. BECAUSE they would have had a chance!!

 

Why the hell would you want to keep someone from at least trying to stop this democrat terrorist?

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Response to black rifles (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:21 AM

2. You act as if their objective is to save lives.

 

They have had the technical aspects explained to them time and again. Yet, all they do is snivel, "Watch out, here come all the gunners and their facts."

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Response to black rifles (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:26 AM

4. "he could just as easily carried a single shot rifle and a couple boxes of shells."

And after the first person was shot the other 100+ people would have rushed him and taken his gun.. So much for your theory.

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Response to Appalachian Man (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:53 PM

15. So even though the democat terrorist

 

was evidently shooting for hours, banning a evil semi auto would have made all the difference in the world... yeah right...
These poor souls didn;t even try to defend themselves, get real.

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Response to black rifles (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 05:24 PM

16. My reply was to your single shot rifle comment. It had nothing to do with banning anything.

defending against a 30-round clip semi-automatic weapon vs a single shot rifle is quite a different animal. Obviously you know that but you don't want to admit it. That's fine with me.

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Response to black rifles (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 10:29 AM

5. Was that English?

<POE>

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Response to Billy Jingo (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:51 PM

14. Reading comprehension is your strong suit I see.

 

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Response to black rifles (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 05:55 PM

18. In the time he had, I could've killed 50 people with my bare hands.

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