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Fri May 26, 2017, 04:46 AM

 

This is what happens when POC fail to live up to Leftist expectations.

And you can watch it firsthand:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9112786


A black farmer says it's not Richard Spencer calling the cops on him but a white woman in yoga pants with an "I'm with her" bumper sticker on her German SUV.

330 posts of vicious cat fighting so far.

And these yobs presume to lecture us.

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Reply This is what happens when POC fail to live up to Leftist expectations. (Original post)
I814U2CY May 2017 OP
Scary Red May 2017 #1
I814U2CY May 2017 #3
bernt-toast May 2017 #4
Scary Red May 2017 #6
I814U2CY May 2017 #8
Scary Red May 2017 #9
I814U2CY May 2017 #10
Scary Red May 2017 #11
I814U2CY May 2017 #13
His Daughter May 2017 #14
Mouth of Chaos May 2017 #16
Muddling Through May 2017 #2
bernt-toast May 2017 #5
Scary Red May 2017 #7
His Daughter May 2017 #15
His Daughter May 2017 #12

Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 05:06 AM

1. Seems to me they're having a serious discussion about a real problem...

and you have a problem with that?

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #1)

Fri May 26, 2017, 05:52 AM

3. This is your "serious discussion" --

 

Demsrule86 (11,707 posts)

173. Why give ammo to the GOP which he did...do you think that makes it better?

All the lambasting of liberals and Democrats only helps Republicans.


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retrowire (9,966 posts)

5. Why are we calling non liberals, liberals? Nt



retrowire (9,966 posts)

44. Who you vote for doesn't make you liberal

This proves nothing.

We're miscommunicating the word "liberal" to our disadvantage.


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kcr (10,660 posts)

184. Yes. That and his stance on the Confederate flag. I'm with you on this one.

I suspect he's a conservative who's happy to blame things disproportionately on liberals.

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treestar (67,409 posts)

12. Yep. Can't picture a Hillary supporter

or any liberal calling the cops seeing a black man at work. I wouldn't.

(This guy sounds as solipsistic as you.)

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spooky3 (18,851 posts)

13. Agree--sexism is just as bad as racism, but this guy

Apparently doesn't understand that.

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FLPanhandle (6,654 posts)

19. The irony is rich

His own racist and sexist attitude was on full display there.




Etc. etc. etc.

So much for "serious discussion"

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #1)

Fri May 26, 2017, 08:13 AM

4. I didn't count the numbers, but even skimming past the

reflexive "let him have Trump/Ryan/etc and see how he likes that" and the "rightwing hit piece" posts and taking the time to read the thoughtful, reflective posts, I'd guess less than half are reflective versus reflexive.

But that strikes me as a statement about where DU and the clinton dem party are these days.

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Response to bernt-toast (Reply #4)

Fri May 26, 2017, 08:51 AM

6. Close to half is pretty good for an internet discussion...

and this place has a long way to go to reach that.

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #6)

Fri May 26, 2017, 08:59 AM

8. That is a strictly moderated, heavily enforced forum exclusively for Leftists

 

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #8)

Fri May 26, 2017, 09:12 AM

9. So?

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #9)

Fri May 26, 2017, 09:31 AM

10. They don't care about POC. They worry about their captive constituency fleeing the plantation.

 

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #10)

Fri May 26, 2017, 09:34 AM

11. If I really cared, I would ask how you know that about them...

or is it just projection and wishful thinking?

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #11)

Fri May 26, 2017, 09:42 AM

13. I read their posts and I watch how they treat any POC who doesn't obey.

 

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #11)

Fri May 26, 2017, 09:59 AM

14. Because if they really cared they would be addressing root causes and we would see progress

If you truly want to fix something you take action, assess the effectiveness, and tune your approach. Iterate until there is substantive progress. Repeat as necessary.

That is not happening in many ways. The ongoing approaches have failed since the start of the war on poverty. Yet they continue to grow in terms of people and money. There is little appetite to try other things and see if they do better. I know I do not have "the answer" if there is one, but I see nothing in terms of innovation or other serious attempts at progress.

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #11)

Sat May 27, 2017, 10:04 AM

16. The same

way Jane Goodall did or a Doctor of mental disorders do.

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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 05:15 AM

2. Business as usual.

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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 08:19 AM

5. It's a very interesting fb post, and worthy of discussion

The full post far more interesting than the excerpts. I wonder how it would fare here at DI.

I have a number of thoughts on it. Wonder if it is worth starting a thread on it...

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Response to bernt-toast (Reply #5)

Fri May 26, 2017, 08:54 AM

7. Give it a shot and see what happens...

Myself, I am interested in the subject, but I fear anything I would say would get lost in that huge thread or start another firestorm here.

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #7)

Fri May 26, 2017, 10:01 AM

15. I resonate with the famer.

My experience though different in particulars than his, has similar hallmarks. I too have experienced the racism of low expectations by "Nervous white women in yoga pants with the 'I'm With Her' and 'Coexist' stickers on their German SUVs.'". However, I tend not to get the cops called on me. I also have had the opportunity to work in quality focused environments where skill and capability mattered above all else. The farmer guy is in a mixed race relationship and focuses on local issues, food justice etc. A classic example of a progressive person walking the talk. A foot soldier in the movement. However it is clear than many at DU and elsewhere cannot face or acknowledge the reality of his experience. He makes some serious points that make some people uncomfortable. A good thing IMNSHO.

The guy at the farm cannot prove all his assertions. They are in fact not provable, but repeated experience which he cites can be a clue. Many argue that ones experience is valid in and of itself when it comes to discrimination. No additional documentation is required, Yet when this person does just that he is derided because people do not like his experience? Seems like it depends on whose ox is being gored.

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Response to I814U2CY (Original post)

Fri May 26, 2017, 09:39 AM

12. That is a pretty telling thread

They are mostly attacking messenger since he cannot prove his assertions that it was the local liberals calling the cops on him. The same people who claim that microagressions are valid. The Facebook thread is much more respectful since most people there can be identified.

What I am surprised about is that the local cops are not just driving by and waving at him at this point. They are probably over tasked as it is and nonsense calls eat into their response time.

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