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Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:41 AM

I rejoined the NRA this morning, 5 years

I don't usually do that when the Dimocrats are out of Power

I guess I don't want Michael Moore and Harvey Weinstein determining what Rights I have,



CNN Doesn't even know what a "Bump Stock" is




CNN came under fire on Friday after they attempted to show viewers how bump stocks work on semi-automatic rifles — but used a depiction of a rifle that didn’t have a bump stock on it.

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Reply I rejoined the NRA this morning, 5 years (Original post)
Gunslinger201 Oct 2017 OP
Frankenvoter Oct 2017 #1
MumblyPeg Oct 2017 #2
Gunslinger201 Oct 2017 #3
MumblyPeg Oct 2017 #4
def_con5 Oct 2017 #5
MumblyPeg Oct 2017 #6
def_con5 Oct 2017 #7
oflguy Oct 2017 #8
specs Oct 2017 #9
oldenuff35 Oct 2017 #23
def_con5 Oct 2017 #24
WhiskeyMakesMeHappy Oct 2017 #12
MumblyPeg Oct 2017 #13
WhiskeyMakesMeHappy Oct 2017 #15
def_con5 Oct 2017 #20
Crazy D Oct 2017 #14
WhiskeyMakesMeHappy Oct 2017 #16
Crazy D Oct 2017 #17
msv Oct 2017 #22
Crazy D Oct 2017 #10
foia Oct 2017 #11
mrwordsworth Oct 2017 #18
Crazy D Oct 2017 #19
MumblyPeg Oct 2017 #21
joefriday6 Oct 2017 #25

Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:57 AM

1. Those two look like they are discussing the best brand of casting couch to buy

That stands up to the abuse of a few tons of fat using it whenever a new "talent" wants to break into the business.

They also look like they are agreeing with each other that their choice of profession was correct as any other area of work wouldn't have given them the power to demand and get what no girl in her right mind would ever give willingly to such disgusting examples of the male form.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 06:55 AM

2. the NRA have been sell-outs for too long.

That's why the GOA was formed, and that's why I'm a GOA member.
There's that picture of Ryan saying pretty much the same thing the NRA is saying...
The NRA is responsible for a LOT of good, but they also are in the gun control camp. Not as badly as they used to be, but it's still happening.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 07:48 AM

3. I may have to join both then

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 08:08 AM

4. The NRA pisses me off to no end,

but ultimately, they do far more good than bad. They tend to support gun control measures of certain types. For instance, they help sell bullshit like forcing you to use an FFL and pay hostage fees to gun dealers for receiving a UPS package.
That being said, the spend more money on lawyers that the GOA by far who work to kill off all these dumbass and never-ending legislative attacks. As much as they piss me off, I continue to donate money. Kinda like voting for Trump... beats the hell out of having a red commie bastard or crooked meemaw in office.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #4)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 08:39 AM

5. Just go to a gun show

No checks, by any weapon you want including automatic.

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 08:40 AM

6. why didn't I think of that?

it's so simple... even a dimocrat could have figured that out

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #6)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 08:49 AM

7. An idiot lib

was on Tucker a couple of nights ago, saying exactly that.

It's an article of faith with them

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Response to oflguy (Reply #8)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 09:08 AM

9. he was parroting a favorite talking point of regressive lefty and the ease of buying guns :)

and making fun of them

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:15 AM

23. That is a huge claim, not in the least true. The gun show loophole is pure fantasy.

Please post links, provable links to prove your claim.

Blogs and articles from gun ignorant and gun stupid people are not facts.

Person to Person sales are still legal in many states and have zero to do with gun shows. Any and every firearms sold by a dealer has to go through all federal and local legal requirements, even at gun shows.

Don't you just hate it when you get caught in such big lies.

To put this bluntly, you are a bold faced liar.

The Democrat party has become the party of desperate and pathetic liars.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #23)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:25 AM

24. See post 9

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 09:56 AM

12. I was plesently surprised that the NRA held fast after Sandy Hook.

I rejoined them as a result of their holding firm. I'm not real happy with them on how they are reacting to this situation.

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Response to WhiskeyMakesMeHappy (Reply #12)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:21 AM

13. IMHO, here's what sucks about all this...

I really don't give a rats ass about bump fire stocks or select fire weapons... except for maybe investment opportunity. But I don't have enough money to play in the machine gun collector/investor game. Dimocrats made that a "1 percenter" game.
I really don't care otherwise. And as far as I know, most gun owners or enthusiasts don't either. They are nothing more than impractical, but interesting toys.
The real problem here is creep, overreach, and precedence. It's unfortunate, but we can't trust the left. They re-enforce our views of them as untrustworthy at every opportunity, every time, without fail.
I don't give one single shit about bump fire stocks. But I DO care about giving an inch to the anti-gun lobby in this country. It's a constant and never ending negative pressure. You can't take your finger out of the hole plugging the dam. these bastards have a goal, and they get closer to it every passing year.
They are dumb, emotional, and have an axe to grind. they are incapable of acting in a responsible and sensible manner, while prioritizing true freedom.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #13)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:23 AM

15. Well said, I agree with it completely.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #13)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:47 AM

20. Exactly

I couldn't agree more.

They even say as much, I heard a dem rep say bump stocks are just a footnote, they need a complete ban on assault weapons, close the gun show loophole, etc, etc.

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Response to WhiskeyMakesMeHappy (Reply #12)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:21 AM

14. I did the same after Sandy Hook

I'm not happy with what the NRA is doing but I'm also a realist. Sometimes to win the war you have to lose a battle and this is a battle we can afford to lose to win the war

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #14)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:24 AM

16. I agree, what I'm disappointed in is the lack of initiative to pass some pro-gun Bills.

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Response to WhiskeyMakesMeHappy (Reply #16)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:29 AM

17. Timing has been killing us on those

The SHARE bill was suppose to hit the floor of the House the week the Virginia Baseball Field shooting happened.

Same this week.

Congress if the repukes had their way would never push a pro gun bill, what's helped us was Trump winning. Now some of those same congresscritters see that gun owners now want something for all their years of support.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:54 AM

22. Yep.

I'm a life member but am extremely frustrated. The left is always saying the NRA is this super group, but with both houses and the presidency not only have gun rights bills stalled but now there are new banned imports and we're conceding ground to gun controllers. I can only wish the NRA were the powerful, scary lobbyists the left thinks.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 09:09 AM

10. I'm seeing too many people on shooting forums say their quiting the NRA because of the bump stocks

I think their wrong. It was a fluke bump stocks were okay-ed by the ATF to begin with and the function was always a walk-a-round to the Hughes Amendment (which is illegal IMO to begin with the way it was voted on).

Their committing hari-kari for a novelty item that 97% of them would never own anyway.

CNN I expect crap like that

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #10)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 09:55 AM

11. It's not a "fluke" that the ATF allowed bump stocks

The legal definition of what constitutes as automatic firearm does not cover bump stocks. The ATF merely followed the law.

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #10)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:32 AM

18. I agree

 

Bump stocks are a novelty. The NRA has came a long way since the days of the assault weapon ban and are a powerful advocate to today's gun owners.

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Response to mrwordsworth (Reply #18)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:39 AM

19. I would rather lose bump stocks than have a run on making semi auto weapons a tax stamp item

With my collection that would hurt (if I did it).

I really think we'll going to lose magazines over 30 rounds also. We can use the argument that 30 round AR mags are "standard" because the military and law enforcement uses them and seldom uses 60 rounders.

That ain't a popular opinion for gun owners and some here might think I'm a sell out but I look at it as a war (it is a culture war). Sometimes to win the war you have to lose a battle. Bump stocks is a hill not worth dying on because if we can look reasonable on a item 95% of AR-15 owners don't own we can keep those AR-15 and all semi auto weapons off the tax stamp rolls or the like

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #10)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 10:54 AM

21. I disagree here.

The problem for both sides of this fight is law and how it is defined.
Intent becomes irrelevant because of the required constrains of law in cases like this.
In order to restrict things, you have to be able to define and describe it. This cannot be left open to interpretation, or abuse follows shortly thereafter, and it would be subject to the whims of political winds. Not acceptable.
So, for instance, let's say you just want to ban full-auto fire.
Well, bump-fire is a full-auto RESULT, not a full-auto device. Which is it? The usage intent or the device?
Now lets say, for the sake of argument, you want to ban usage intent.
Ok, now we have a problem. What is "full auto" now? More than one shot per second? 15 seconds?
Ask me and the communist Dianne Feinstein and you are likely to get two wildly different answers.
That's why this ban is too sketchy and should not be allowed in any way, shape of form.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:36 AM

25. It's Deep State trying to get the guns so the takeover can proceed at a faster clip.

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