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Mon Jul 30, 2018, 09:46 AM

New Hampshire, 94 Percent White, Asks: How Do You Diversify a Whole State?



MANCHESTER, N.H. — Catalina Celentano used to hold training sessions for hospital workers in Lynn, Mass., to familiarize them with the cultures of patients from Cambodia, Russia and the Dominican Republic. When she moved to New Hampshire, she suddenly found herself in an ethnic vacuum.

“I went from being able to speak Spanish every day to not speaking Spanish at all because there wasn’t anybody to speak Spanish to,” said Mrs. Celentano, who was born in Colombia to a Colombian mother and Hungarian father. “The only person I spoke Spanish with was a cleaning lady and she moved back to Colombia.”

New Hampshire, like its neighbors Vermont and Maine, is nearly all white. This has posed an array of problems for new arrivals, who often find themselves isolated and alone, without the comfort and support of a built-in community.

It has also posed problems for employers in these states, who find that their homogeneity can be a barrier to recruiting and retaining workers of different ethnicities and cultural backgrounds

The issue prompted about 100 business leaders, government officials and members of nonprofit organizations to meet Thursday to search for ways that New Hampshire — which is 94 percent white — might lure other racial and ethnic groups, as well as younger people.

Will Arvelo, New Hampshire’s director of economic development, said the gathering appeared to be the first broad-based effort in New England, if not the country, to focus on how to diversify an entire state.

With nonwhites poised to make up a majority of the American population in the next three decades, he said, diversity has become a bottom-line imperative for companies competing for talent, especially for workers who can speak other languages. As it stands, New Hampshire is 3 percent Latino, 2 percent African-American and 3 percent Asian, according to the census, with some people identifying as more than one race. The nation as a whole is 17 percent Latino, 14 percent African-American and 6 percent Asian.

“New Hampshire’s future economy is dependent on our ability to set ourselves up as a welcoming state,” Mr. Arvelo said at the meeting. “We do a great job marketing ourselves around travel and tourism. How do we use those tools to attract talent?”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/27/us/new-hampshire-white-diversify.html

Oh the Horror! New Hampshire currently has a Homicide rate of 1.1 per 100,000. Baltimore has 55.1 per 100,000. Be careful what you wish for

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Reply New Hampshire, 94 Percent White, Asks: How Do You Diversify a Whole State? (Original post)
Gunslinger201 Jul 2018 OP
imwithfred Jul 2018 #1
Gunslinger201 Jul 2018 #2
Red Bull Jul 2018 #3
Bronxbomber Jul 2018 #4
quad489 Jul 2018 #6
TM999 Jul 2018 #5
Nostrings Jul 2018 #7
Gunslinger201 Jul 2018 #8
His Daughter Jul 2018 #9
Gunslinger201 Jul 2018 #10
Nostrings Jul 2018 #12
His Daughter Jul 2018 #14
rahtruelies Jul 2018 #11
His Daughter Jul 2018 #15
rahtruelies Jul 2018 #20
His Daughter Jul 2018 #22
PapasOldShoe Jul 2018 #13
His Daughter Jul 2018 #16
PapasOldShoe Jul 2018 #17
His Daughter Jul 2018 #18
PapasOldShoe Jul 2018 #19
Grumpy Pickle Jul 2018 #21

Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 09:52 AM

1. This is probably why Vermont's so highly favored by

affluent white liberals; it's nearly all white with few or any of those sorry-looking black folk.

This way, they can sit on their front porches in the mountains and forests and valleys and virtue-signal the rest of us that we're racists and they aren't.

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 09:57 AM

2. Id say they have Balls if

They try to Diversify Idaho

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:01 AM

3. Diversity is a bunch of bullshit

When I was in the Army I had black, Asian and Hispanic friends. We got along fine, no issues.

At the end of the day everybody segregated and we broke off into racial clicks. The reason was because on our off duty time we had nothing in common.

We liked different music, food, alcohol, bars and many other things. Nobody had anything against the others but we were just culturally differnent and wanted to spend our off duty time with like people.

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Response to Red Bull (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:09 AM

4. To the diseased mind of the typical self-loathing white liberal, that's all fine and appropriate....

...as long as it's not white people choosing to associate with other white people.

Black with Black....something to be celebrated and embraced.
Asian with Asian....something to be celebrated and embraced.
White with White...something to be reviled and incessantly demonized as an act of extreme racial hatred.

There's absolutely no reason for any rational person to take anything liberals believe in or hold near and dear to their hate-shrunken hearts seriously under any circumstances. None.

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Response to Bronxbomber (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:29 AM

6. Yep, mention having a white pride month & lefties/dems automatically bring up their grandparents...

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:18 AM

5. How?

The same way they did it to the Scandinavian countries. They elect far-left 'democratic socialists' who embrace all of the identity politics bullshit. Then they open up the borders and pay third world immigrants to migrate. In this case, I would not at all be surprised if they paid for poor AA's and Latino's to 'immigrate' to New Hampshire.

Then, of course, the crime increases, the standard of living decreases, the social welfare system becomes overburdened and strapped thin, and they try to solve those problems with higher taxes, more statist control, and targeted laws that support 'diversity' only.

If they are lucky, like Norway, they will come to their senses then and elect center-right, anti-immigration, pols who will try and fix the mess. And if they continue with their folly, they will end up like Sweden with no-go zones, crime rates on par with inner cities like Chicago and Baltimore, and the use of propaganda to convince themselves how great they still are after 'diversifying'.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:31 AM

7. How interesting.

“New Hampshire’s future economy is dependent on our ability to set ourselves up as a welcoming state,”

How come modern day leftists will express the above sentiment when it comes to "diversity", but not when it comes to taxes?

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:33 AM

8. Im not aware of any law barring minorities from New Hampshire

I think I see the problem



Ever seen a Haitian with a Snow Shovel?

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:39 AM

9. I would feel in unwelcome in New Hamshire

Its all that damn white stuff that falls from the skies. I hate it and it hates me. Has nothing to do with the people or business climate. Its the damn weather. I have been there in the summer. It was nice enough, but once it turns cold, time to get back to Dodge City.

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:45 AM

10. I was born in Massachusetts

And live in Maryland

Yep

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:54 AM

12. Dodge City KS?

Quite a historic place to live.

It's on our list of places to explore at some point.

The trick with the white stuff that falls from the sky is gear. The right gear turns that stuff from frigid prohibitive annoyance, to very entertaining enabler of winter wonderland.

Myself, I have the opposite problem: tee shirt and shorts at 40 degrees F no problem, anything ablve 70 and I melt and am a miserable dripping sloppy mess.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:09 AM

14. It was a play on the meme "get out of Dodge"

I live in the desert...I have lived in the northeast when in training. I hated the snow then, I still hate it now.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:49 AM

11. The best level of 'diversity' is NONE

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Response to rahtruelies (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:11 AM

15. Forced diversity you are correct, naturally occuring diversity, you are wrong

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #15)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 05:42 PM

20. all 'diversity' is forced these days

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Response to rahtruelies (Reply #20)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:02 PM

22. Nonsense

As a POC, it is assumed that my being someplace diversifies it to some extent. No one has the authority to tell me where to go. I am the only black person in my local area (lots of hispanics and native americans). I choose to be here.

Forced integration is bad. People wanting to be where they are, is good. If I lived in Chevy Chase, if my neighbor can afford to buy in the neighborhood, they could be from the planet Shazbat for all I care. That is natural racial diversity, and it is happening. It even works well when left alone. Same with employment. Unless they went looking, my last two employers did not know I was black until I had a job offer. Given an opportunity and a fair start, things will diffuse naturally...at least in my experience.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:00 AM

13. Was there something here that you folks didn't understand?

 

Well, that's a loaded question. It contains the undoubtedly false premise that someone read what they then yammered about.

Allow me to assist:


* diversity has become a bottom-line imperative for companies competing for talent, especially for workers who can speak other languages.
* “New Hampshire’s future economy is dependent on our ability to set ourselves up as a welcoming state,” Mr. Arvelo said at the meeting.


Small, aging communities throughout North America, and also in Europe, are competing to attract immigrants, because their existence literally depends on it.


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/how-a-small-german-town-mastered-the-refugee-crisis-1.3214660

How a small German town mastered the refugee crisis
Lower Saxon city embraces asylum seekers as it counters low birth rate and brain drain

* While bigger cities struggled to process and house their assigned refugee contingent, (mayor) Junk welcomed the new arrivals as a way to stop his town from shrinking further.
* “If Goslar is to keep developing we are dependent on immigration,” says Junk. “Our birth rate isn’t that high and anyone who moves away to study might not come back.”

* Everyone involved with refugees in Goslar makes the same point. Germany’s population is ageing and shrinking, with 20 million fewer people forecast by mid-century, of which more than half will be over 50. Companies are already struggling to find new trainees, so for them, and small towns like Goslar, immigration is survival.

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Response to PapasOldShoe (Reply #13)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:18 AM

16. It will be different in the US

There is nothing to indicate that there is open hostility to minorities in New Hampshire. However, without an established communities few will go there. Human nature and all that. Unlike Europe, being multilingual and multicultural is much less important. A more apt contract would be Boston or NYC, which are still fairly racist despite having minority populations.

I am the only black person that I know of in my area. Never felt any hostility nor do I expect to. Black people do not tend to go to rural desert communities. They don't tend towards snow either. Let us not confuse choice with bigotry.

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:03 PM

17. Of course it will!

 

Why, there was a YUUUGE immigrant community in Goslar already.




"I am the only black person that I know of in my area. Never felt any hostility nor do I expect to. Black people do not tend to go to rural desert communities. They don't tend towards snow either. Let us not confuse choice with bigotry."

Hm. For some reason, an article about the importance of immigration to the economic future of small communities was all about you. Who knew?

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Response to PapasOldShoe (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:48 PM

18. My point is that the US is not Europe

And the assumption that smaller rural towns are bigot havens is false. We see more bigotry in the US in large cities.

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #18)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 01:50 PM

19. And such a pretty point it is.

 

"And the assumption that smaller rural towns are bigot havens is false."

What article are you reading?

Ah. Perhaps you're responding to the bigotry on display somewhere other than in the article in the OP.

Odd that you directed your comments to my post, in that case.


In the article, the comment that newcomers "often find themselves isolated and alone, without the comfort and support of a built-in community" is not an allegation of bigotry, just in case that led you astray. It is a fact of life. It is difficult for newcomers to settle when they don't speak the language or know how to access goods and services and there is no natural cultural/linguistic community to intermediate for them.

Another important point is made in the article:

* “Housing is at the core of why there aren’t more immigrants — there’s no place for them,” he said. “An ethnic person who wants to come in with a family of four or five people is not going to find a home they can afford, and there’s almost no rental housing whatsoever.” In addition, Northern New England has the nation’s highest concentration of second homes, making the housing market especially tight.

I happen to be a recent arrival in a small and very ethnically homogeneous white/anglo city. This is my main complaint about the economy here. Well-to-do families from the nearby large city are snapping up new-build housing with four bedrooms and three bathrooms and renovated old-stock housing, then commuting to jobs in the city (and contributing nothing to the local economy and culture), while no affordable housing is being built, especially rental housing, and lower-income locals (who may themselves have to commute because of local plant closures, but have no public transit links) scramble to find places to live. So while the bigger city, which is historically at least as homogeneous, is now "diverse", largely because of the concentration of academic, medical and similar intrastructure, and simply the more numerous opportunities available in the bigger and more diverse local economy there, my outlying small city remains almost entirely white/anglo. Not because the population is bigoted. Because the jobs and housing that newcomers need, and the intermediating community to help them settle, are not available here.

How things work.


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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 07:28 PM

21. Leave the white people alone....forced diversity will cause problems.

I'm white, but if I INSISTED on moving into the inner city predominately black areas, all hell would break loose.

I would NOT be welcome.

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