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Sun May 12, 2019, 02:54 PM

talked to a pair of teachers last night

on their way to their moonlight job as strippers. i thought that was unique to venezuela.

my question for the forum capitalists is "if economic conditions on caraccas are so bad that the teachers must strip to make ends meet, who ca afford to spend money at the strip club?"

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article174808061.html

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:10 PM

1. No you did not, and neither did the reporter for the Miami Herald, as you both are regressives :)

 

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:15 PM

2. ''on their way to their moonlight job as strippers''..sad to hear your district pays teachers poorly

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:15 PM

3. Did you even read the article?

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:24 PM

4. It sounds like these teachers made poor life choices.

Hopefully they’re still young enough to start making smarter decisions and turn their lives around.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:25 PM

5. Blame Socialism. It destroys every economy that adopts it.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 03:30 PM

6. Maybe they just need

A little more free college.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 04:42 PM

7. So, rampartb. How would YOU fix the situation?

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 04:45 PM

8. Capitalists are opposed to socialism

Socialists should listen to the warnings from Captialists before implementing Socialism so that teachers that are forced to live with that implementation don't have to strip for a living.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 04:46 PM

9. Even in the poorest and worst of times there is always a market for sex.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 04:47 PM

10. Not just Venezuela or Colombia. Try Queens, New York.

You work the same streets for two decades, you start to learn way too many secrets.

Working class women, most likely married, her and hubby just bought a nice house and want to send the kids to private (usually Catholic) school to avoid the city middle- and high-schools.

There's no way of really knowing, but I would bet each and every one of us would be surprised at how many American working- and middle-class women have dabbled in prostitution. Whatever the number, I am sure it's not a huge number, but it is more than most of us would guess.

The few who I have talked to (it takes a lot of mutual trust to become privy to these private situations) say they did not find it unpleasant for the most part.

The typical 'clients' were airline pilots based out of a distant city, doctors who work bizarre hours in city hospitals and have lost intimacy with their wives, utility workers (well paid) in from other areas due to a storm or other emergency.

And no, these were not uneducated women, women living on the edge, or wives going through tough financial times with their husbands. Again, it was only a small number that I did, somehow become aware of (or strongly suspected) but none fit the 'desperate times' model of prostitution.

And yes, hubbies know. I talked to a guy who admitted he designed his wife's website.

No, I never told anyone, especially not anyone in law enforcement.

I cared very much for the people on my beat, and their secrets will die with me.

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Response to Model10RB (Reply #10)

Sun May 12, 2019, 06:06 PM

11. Yeah. Suuuuure it is.

Not buyin it

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #11)

Sun May 12, 2019, 06:53 PM

12. Your reply 'sure it is' is a non-sequitir.

And I am not asserting anything for you to 'buy' or not to 'buy.'

What I am saying is that in my 20 years as a city cop, I have had the opportunity to learn of things that do not fit most people's paradigm.

Bottom line is that prostitution does and will always exist, and women who are involved in that lifestyle do not fit most people's sterotypes.

The vast majority of prostitution is voluntary (non-coerced) and is done as a supplement to other (more traditional) employment.

With internet advertising, most of it is safely off the streets, and is seen as an economic choice by (admittedly a very small number of ) women.

The model of a women who sells sex MUST also be: on drugs, desperate, living on the edge and having no other career choices....

...... is patently false.

And the model of women who do the above having no romantic opportunities because of this is patently false as well.

There are life choices that by their very nature (robbery, violent crime, DWI) make the actor a bad person. Having sex for your kid's tuition payment is not one of them.

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Response to Model10RB (Reply #12)

Sun May 12, 2019, 08:35 PM

13. If it helps, I am calling bullsh#t on your story/

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #13)

Sun May 12, 2019, 08:38 PM

14. What story?

What knowledge do you have that differs?

All I am asserting is that the world of prostitution is inhabited by way more regular people than our cultural sterotypes allow for.

In America, criminalization leads to dehumanization, marginalization... Of surprisingly normal people.

If you have heard the term 'The banality of evil' I am saying that thet is a such thing as the 'Banality of sex work.'

Not glamorous, nor down and dirty sleazy.

Just a job.

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Response to Model10RB (Reply #14)

Sun May 12, 2019, 09:40 PM

17. You post #10. total lie. You just made it up.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #17)

Mon May 13, 2019, 04:06 PM

18. Yeah, um...

No. He is not lying.

Hell, there have been shows on cable about shit like that.

People who want to live in the big cities have to earn the cash somehow.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 08:40 PM

15. When my dad was a teacher, he worked P/T for a dry-cleaner.

He had to give that job up when he moved into Administration.

P/T jobs for teachers is nothing new. Some have debts, others just want to put away some $$ for a rainy day.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Sun May 12, 2019, 09:04 PM

16. Are you seriously asking?

There are always people who have money. Frequently they work for or with the government.

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