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Mon May 13, 2019, 09:45 PM

Significant Numbers

Top 8 Significant Numbers in Biblical Numerology

One essential way to connect with God is through critical analysis of His Word. One way to do this is through understanding and breaking down His use of Biblical numbers. There are connections and patterns throughout the Bible, and by researching them we see deeper meanings. The patterns do not exist by chance, but are specific to God’s design. Each has a specific symbolism attached. Here are the sacred codes and significant numbers in the Bible.
https://www.beliefnet.com/faiths/christianity/top-8-significant-numbers-in-biblical-numerology.aspx

Note that this is not posted in Science as there is no concept of “significant numbers” in mathematics. Just as

2 + 3 x 4 does not equal 20

It is apparent why the US is lagging so far behind other developed countries in mathematics education. Sad.

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Cold Warrior May 2019 OP
rampartb May 2019 #1
oflguy May 2019 #2
Cold Warrior May 2019 #3
oflguy May 2019 #4
SatansSon666 May 2019 #5
oflguy May 2019 #6
SatansSon666 May 2019 #12
Cold Warrior May 2019 #7
oflguy May 2019 #8
Cold Warrior May 2019 #9
oflguy May 2019 #10
oflguy May 2019 #11
SatansSon666 May 2019 #13
oflguy May 2019 #14
SatansSon666 May 2019 #15
oflguy May 2019 #16
SatansSon666 May 2019 #17
oflguy May 2019 #18
SatansSon666 May 2019 #36
oflguy May 2019 #40
oflguy May 2019 #37
oflguy May 2019 #38
Cold Warrior May 2019 #21
oflguy May 2019 #39
SatansSon666 May 2019 #41
oflguy May 2019 #42
SatansSon666 May 2019 #43
oflguy May 2019 #44
SatansSon666 May 2019 #46
Cold Warrior May 2019 #45
oflguy May 2019 #49
Cold Warrior May 2019 #50
Cold Warrior May 2019 #19
oflguy May 2019 #20
Cold Warrior May 2019 #22
oflguy May 2019 #23
Cold Warrior May 2019 #24
oflguy May 2019 #25
Cold Warrior May 2019 #26
oflguy May 2019 #32
Cold Warrior May 2019 #33
oflguy May 2019 #34
Cold Warrior May 2019 #35
Independent.mind May 2019 #27
Cold Warrior May 2019 #28
Cold Warrior May 2019 #29
Zappa Dappa Doo May 2019 #47
oflguy May 2019 #48
Carlos W Bush May 2019 #30
planetX May 2019 #31
762Justice May 26 #51

Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 03:31 AM

1. that article is a high number of bs

almighty god says pi=3 and that is good enough for me.

I Kings 7: 23, “And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about” (KJV).

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 02:01 PM

2. Here

You are NOAA. Tell us how warm it was the past week from this weather station.
Day of week high low
Sunday 91.6 57.8
Monday 87.1 55.7
Tuesday 71.4 44.3
Wed 58.7 39.0
Thursday 64.6 59.5
Friday 39.8 30.5
Saturday 40.0 36.5

Want me to help you?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #2)

Tue May 14, 2019, 02:10 PM

3. Nope. I want you to tell me what SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS are

Are they like Imaginary Numbers?

You really are appearing a bit desperate to get your little “gotcha” in. Not an attractive look.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #3)

Tue May 14, 2019, 02:25 PM

4. I'm running out of patience with you

So I'm going to help you.

First, since you are NOAA, you have to round the numbers to the nearest whole number. NOAA weather station data is reported in whole numbers, so:

Sunday 92 58
Monday 87 56
Tuesday 71 44
Wednesday 59 39
Thursday 65 60
Friday 40 31
Saturday 40 37


Can you take it from here?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #4)

Tue May 14, 2019, 02:50 PM

5. Still upset nobody will do you math for you?

"Losing patience"
Get used to it roflguy. Nobody is interested in your silly games.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #5)

Tue May 14, 2019, 02:53 PM

6. I'm here to help you

No need to be afraid

I know, you don't know what to do next, right?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #6)

Tue May 14, 2019, 05:12 PM

12. broken record.

I don't mean the Guinness kind either. .

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Response to oflguy (Reply #4)

Tue May 14, 2019, 02:56 PM

7. Nope. I am waiting for you to tell me what SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS are

BTW, if you explain your little “gotcha” step-by-step, it sort of takes the pizzazz out of it, don’t ya’ think?

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #7)

Tue May 14, 2019, 03:10 PM

8. I told you I'd help you......patience

The next step is to get the temperature of each day so

Day of week high low
Sunday 91.6 57.8 92+58=150/2=75
Monday 87.1 55.7 87+56=143/2=71.5
Tuesday 71.4 44.3 71+44=115/2=57.5
Wed 58.7 39.0 59+39=98/2=49
Thursday 64.6 59.5 65+60=125/2=62.5
Friday 39.8 30.5 40+31=71/2=35.5
Saturday 40.0 36.5 40+37=77/2=38.5

Are you with me so far?

I'm going to do better than tell you what significant figures are. I'm going to SHOW you

Want to do the next step?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #8)

Tue May 14, 2019, 03:40 PM

9. Nope. Next step is for you to tell me what SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS are

You keep saying now "significant figures." That is not what I'm asking you to define.

BTW, as I said in a post in another thread, I really hope your "gotcha" is not that mathematical operations over numbers with varying degrees of precision may yield differing results. Because if you think that's some really clever stuff, that is not a bit sad, it's a whole lot sad.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #9)

Tue May 14, 2019, 03:43 PM

10. The temperature for the week is 55.64285714285714

Last edited Tue May 14, 2019, 04:53 PM - Edit history (1)

Day of week high low
Sunday 91.6 57.8 92+58=150/2=75
Monday 87.1 55.7 87+56=143/2=71.5
Tuesday 71.4 44.3 71+44=115/2=57.5
Wed 58.7 39.0 59+39=98/2=49
Thursday 64.6 59.5 65+60=125/2=62.5
Friday 39.8 30.5 40+31=71/2=35.5
Saturday 40.0 36.5 40+37=77/2=38.5

75+71.5+57.5+49+62.5+35.5+38.5=389.5/7=55.64285714285714

Do you know how many figures are significant?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #10)

Tue May 14, 2019, 05:02 PM

11. If I gave you the definition of significant figures, would that help?

The whole point here is WHY are the significant and insignificant figures in this answer important, and how does that apply to the global warming agenda of the Left?

Can you guess? Do you even know what a significant number, figure, or digit is? (try to google all three. You will arrive at the same place)

I'm not interested in your "gotcha" game regarding the words "figures," "numbers" and "digits," which is the game you want to play. I want the forum to understand what you people do every day and how it is bogus.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #11)

Tue May 14, 2019, 05:18 PM

13. lol



Still doesn't underdrand what a number is and wants to teach someone math.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #13)

Tue May 14, 2019, 05:25 PM

14. There is no more a blind person

Than one who refuses to see

Stay ignorant

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Response to oflguy (Reply #14)

Tue May 14, 2019, 05:28 PM

15. What is a significant number?

Staying ignorant indeed.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #15)

Tue May 14, 2019, 05:47 PM

16. Google it

I'm sure you will be shocked to find out.

Which ones in the answer, 55.64285714285714, are significant? More importantly, why are they significant? Which ones are insignificant and why?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #16)

Tue May 14, 2019, 05:53 PM

17. I don't have to Google it.

I'm asking you to tell me what it is.
I already know.

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #17)

Tue May 14, 2019, 05:58 PM

18. Still trying to play your petty gotcha game I see. Why not just acknowledge what the point is?

We all know why. You just can't STAND to admit Lefty has been bamboozling people for years with bogus propaganda.

Do I have to spoon feed the point also? You know what it is. You just don't want to acknowledge it.

This is your last chance to answer the question.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #18)

Wed May 15, 2019, 07:52 AM

36. It's a problem. Not a question.

Significant numbers.....

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #36)

Thu May 16, 2019, 08:37 AM

40. The question was: What is the temperature for the week?

Last edited Thu May 16, 2019, 09:52 AM - Edit history (1)

You need to read the question. (hint: there is a question mark at the end)

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Response to oflguy (Reply #18)

Wed May 15, 2019, 10:42 AM

37. Since you refuse to participate in the example, I just need to explain it to you

Significant Figures in Calculations
When combining measurements with different degrees of accuracy and precision, the number of significant digits in the final answer can be no greater than the number of significant digits in the least precise measured value. There are two different rules, one for multiplication and division and the other for addition and subtraction, as discussed below.
1. For multiplication and division: The result should have the same number of significant figures as the quantity having the least significant figures entering into the calculation. For example, the area of a circle can be calculated from its radius using A = πr2. Let us see how many significant figures the area has if the radius has only two—say, r = 1.2 m. Then,
A = πr2 = (3.1415927…) × (1.2 m)2 = 4.5238934 m2
is what you would get using a calculator that has an eight-digit output. But because the radius has only two significant figures, it limits the calculated quantity to two significant figures or A = 4.5m2, even though π is good to at least eight digits.

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/physics/chapter/1-3-accuracy-precision-and-significant-figures/

In other words, the precision of a product derived from multiplying and dividing data can be no more precise that the data used.

In the example given, the temperature measurements were rounded off to the nearest whole degree, therefore, the product of multiplication and division of those numbers can be no more precise than a whole number. In this case, the number 55.64285714285714 is no more precise than 55.


What you keep forgetting is that the original data, which contained temperatures rounded to the closest one tenth of a degree, was rounded to the nearest whole number. So, 91.6 degrees (rounded to the nearest tenth) became 92 degrees in future calculations. The number of least certainty, 2, becomes the last significant figure that is used and since the product can be no more precise than the data, 55 is the answer. Fractions are insignificant.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #37)

Thu May 16, 2019, 08:29 AM

38. *crickets*

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Response to oflguy (Reply #11)

Tue May 14, 2019, 06:11 PM

21. Please show us your google results for the term SIGNIFICANT NUMBER

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #21)

Thu May 16, 2019, 08:34 AM

39. No problem

What is a significant number?
The number of significant figures in an expression indicates the confidence or precision with which an engineer or scientist states a quantity.

What are significant figures? - Definition from WhatIs.com
whatis.techtarget.com/definition/significant-figures

https://www.bing.com/search?q=significant+numbers+rules&form=EDGSPH&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&refig=20f0f85ab9d543f6a8ec56fda9dec208&PC=HCTS&sp=2&ghc=1&qs=AS&pq=significant+number&sk=AS1&sc=8-18&cvid=20f0f85ab9d543f6a8ec56fda9dec208&cc=US&setlang=en-USttps://courses.lumenlearning.com/physics/chapter/1-3-accuracy-precision-and-significant-figures/

The term Significant digits is also used

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Response to oflguy (Reply #39)

Thu May 16, 2019, 08:55 AM

41. yes. but the term "significant numbers" is never used.

Lmfao.
You still don't get it

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #41)

Thu May 16, 2019, 09:45 AM

42. Never used by you obviously

Judging from the fact you don't know how to use them

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Response to oflguy (Reply #42)

Thu May 16, 2019, 10:26 AM

43. Not used by anybody in mathematics.



1234 is a number. It can't have significant numbers in it. It has significant digits.
Your misuse of the terms while trying to school people is fucking hilarious.
That's why when you Google it, you didn't get results other than the ones using the proper terms.

Anything else I can teach you today?

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Response to SatansSon666 (Reply #43)

Thu May 16, 2019, 11:56 AM

44. Your lack of comprehension is amazing

I notice you have nothing to say about 55 being the answer to my question.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #44)

Thu May 16, 2019, 02:05 PM

46. Well I'm glad that after all this time you finally took it upon yourself to do your own math.

Good for you!!!



Anything else I can teach you today?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #39)

Thu May 16, 2019, 12:07 PM

45. You fail again (and again, and again, and...)

The definitions you have provided do not reference the term "significant number." They do reference "significant figures" which we all know.

Give it up. You are looking just as silly as you did in not knowing that (and why) tenths of degrees are statistically insignificant. Stop spending your time absorbing what the loons have to say and think about problems yourself.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #45)

Thu May 16, 2019, 02:21 PM

49. You are REALLY starting to bore me

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Response to oflguy (Reply #49)

Thu May 16, 2019, 02:27 PM

50. That's one reaction to me pointing out how often you are wrong

Your much anticipated "gotcha" moment, i.e., that rounding inputs impacts the results of calculations, something every high school student knows, failed miserably when I pointed out that for large datasets, the rounding of tenths of degrees in temperature has no statistically significant impact on the results. You seem to have been flailing around for another "gotcha" since then.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #10)

Tue May 14, 2019, 06:06 PM

19. Sigh.

What do you think is the probability of any individual digit from 0-9 appearing in your more “precise” data immediately to the right of the decimal? What do you think that distribution looks like?

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #19)

Tue May 14, 2019, 06:09 PM

20. Hang tight

One more evasion from Satan and I'll give you the answer.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #20)

Tue May 14, 2019, 06:15 PM

22. Better use that time to google another term

“statistically insignificant” rather than waiting for SS666 to demonstrate again that you know nothing about mathematics.

Tell me what you think the distribution of the tenths of a degree looks like. I notice in your data, that distribution was skewed to the higher end.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #22)

Tue May 14, 2019, 06:18 PM

23. That is very observant of you

so what? It happens all the time.

Thanks for underlining my point

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Response to oflguy (Reply #23)

Tue May 14, 2019, 06:31 PM

24. The digits to the right of the decimal are distributed according to a uniform distribution

which means, that given enough data points, the rounding you showed in the pre-averaging is just as likely to round down as it is to round up. Which means that given enough data points, such as those produced by 19,000 + US based NOAA weather stations, the effect of that rounding is insignificant.

I was really hoping that wasn’t your Grand Gotcha, but I knew it was. Very, very sad.

Now that we’ve shown your clever idea which you almost certainly got from one of the sideshow deniers to be void of content, let’s see the results of your googling SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #24)

Tue May 14, 2019, 06:43 PM

25. Likely



How scientific of you!!!!

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Response to oflguy (Reply #25)

Tue May 14, 2019, 06:55 PM

26. Do you know the definition of a uniform distribution?

“Likely” in terms of the statistical probability of occurrence. Not in terms of how likely is it that Loudmouth Crowder will ever get laid. Have you ever taken a course in statistics?

You continue to show your lack of knowledge of mathematics. Indeed, given enough data points, it WILL round down just as often as it will round up. 1-4 will appear just as frequently as 6-9. And the “5” can be resolved by rounding to the nearest even number, as even numbered temperature values which are just as “likely” to appear as odd ones.

Still waiting for your google results of SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS.

You should really quit as you’re simply embarrassing yourself. If you laugh at the term “likely” in a discussion of probability, there is simply no hope for you.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #26)

Tue May 14, 2019, 10:44 PM

32. "it WILL round down just as often as it will round up"

Who told you that?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #32)

Tue May 14, 2019, 10:53 PM

33. It is a fact resulting from the uniform distribution

of the 10th of a degree digit. Go look up uniform distribution and come back. You know NOTHING about mathematics, do you?

Still waiting on your google results for SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #33)

Tue May 14, 2019, 11:07 PM

34. You hope

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Response to oflguy (Reply #34)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:18 AM

35. I do not hope anything

The distribution of that digit is uniform over large datasets and therefore it is insignificant in calculations of the temperature. Sorry to ruin your little “gotcha.” Maybe you need to check with the Loudmouth and get back to us.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #25)

Tue May 14, 2019, 07:01 PM

27. Whats the significance of these numbers

235 and 307?

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Response to Independent.mind (Reply #27)

Tue May 14, 2019, 07:24 PM

28. I know!!! If you add them together the result is

the number of Representatives in Congress.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #25)

Tue May 14, 2019, 08:19 PM

29. Can we continue our very interesting and amusing discussion?

I realise you are probably busy demonstrating new and groundbreaking mathematical principles. But if you could spare the time..,

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Response to oflguy (Reply #10)

Thu May 16, 2019, 02:07 PM

47. And instead of rounding, by using the first decimal you get the following...

74.7 +
71.4 +
57.9 +
48.9 +
62.1 +
35.2 +
38.3 =
--------------

388.3 / 7 = 55.5

Seems rather close to 55.6 to me.

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Response to Zappa Dappa Doo (Reply #47)

Thu May 16, 2019, 02:19 PM

48. Better call NOAA

We did it their way, which was to round every temperature to the closest whole number

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Tue May 14, 2019, 10:00 PM

30. 14

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Response to Carlos W Bush (Reply #30)

Tue May 14, 2019, 10:20 PM

31. PEMDAS

for the win

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Response to Cold Warrior (Original post)

Sun May 26, 2019, 06:30 PM

51. Some years ago, I remember there being a speech on tv

by a preacher that was going on about various numbers being added together and how they matched other numbers, and the whole thing was proof of a matter of faith, with no scientific or real mathematical reasoning behind it.

I'm not a religious person, but I can appreciate others having faith in what they believe to be higher powers. It doesn't bother me until they try to changes laws based on aspects of their faith that are not also aspects of what we would consider important virtues across all levels of faith or faithlessness.

Using this number mumbo jumbo to support matters of pure faith seems silly to me. Have faith, tell others about it, and share it, all fine by me, but don't make up silly math to support it. Math is important to me.

I think we agree here.

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