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Wed Jun 5, 2019, 08:44 AM

San Francisco to force treatment on mentally ill drug users

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — San Francisco officials decided Tuesday to force some people with serious mental illness and drug addiction into treatment, even if it goes against the spirit of a city known for its fierce protection of civil rights.

Several members of the Board of Supervisors voiced deep concerns Tuesday about the possibility of taking away a person’s civil liberties, but the proposal for a pilot program passed 10-1.

Mayor London Breed and other supporters say the move — known as conservatorship — is necessary to help people who are often homeless, addicted to drugs and have a mental illness, making them a danger to themselves.

“Allowing people to continue to suffer on our streets is not acceptable or humane, and I am glad the Board of Supervisors supported our approach to finally make a change,” Breed said in a statement after the vote.

https://apnews.com/7f6bada8478d4ba785cbde93b1869f1e

...and that, my friends, is how the big govt police state gets bigger...first with the homeless on the streets, then with the "mentally ill" living at home alone...etc.

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quad489 Jun 2019 OP
Grumpy Pickle Jun 2019 #1
quad489 Jun 2019 #5
Grumpy Pickle Jun 2019 #6
quad489 Jun 2019 #8
Grumpy Pickle Jun 2019 #9
rampartb Jun 2019 #2
Gunslinger201 Jun 2019 #3
imwithfred Jun 2019 #4
Grumpy Pickle Jun 2019 #7

Response to quad489 (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 08:56 AM

1. You don't have a ' civil right ' to use illegal drugs.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:43 AM

5. Those on welfare believe they have right...as do most lefties.

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Response to quad489 (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 10:05 AM

6. Just because they believe it doesn't make it so.

The Legal system has become much too lenient about illegal drug use.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:20 AM

8. Yep...and I see nothing wrong with random drug testing of welfare recipients. Most companies...

...do the same to their employees.

Equality...equal rights...etc..........

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Response to quad489 (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:41 AM

9. It's become too normalized...

Too many people in high places ( Judges, LEO's, politicians ) are making BIG money in letting America become saturated with drugs.

And the Southern Border remains wide open to the drug cartels and American soldiers are still babysitting the opium fields in Afghanistan.

It isn't going to stop.

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Response to quad489 (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:02 AM

2. cities have legitimate public health concerns with the homeless.

and with other persons who may endanger others, or themselves. in this case the "nanny state" approach seems necessary.

a "police state" would throw them in jail for 30 days on a vagrancy charge or beat them up and drop them outside the county.

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Response to quad489 (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:16 AM

3. A good step in the right direction

Now get Los Angeles to follow



Before there’s a return of the Black Death

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Response to quad489 (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:29 AM

4. Actually, how's this any different from before Ronald Reagan, when

people like this were tossed into nuthouses?

(Of course, we all very well remember that Jimmy Carter swung open the doors of the nuthouses, and after they ended up on the streets, his successor got the blame.)

I prefer they be locked up for their own good again, rather than put in outpatient treatment. You know as well as I do they'll never get well anyway.

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Response to imwithfred (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 5, 2019, 10:11 AM

7. Agree.

There is a % of the population that is unable to care for themselves.

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