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Wed Aug 7, 2019, 01:43 PM

It's too late to try to take American citizens guns away . . . .

That opportunity is long gone - live with it.

However, regulating further sales of certain weapons like fully automatic rifles, large capacity magazines, handguns, etc might be wise - as well as background checks for all future firearm purchasers/owners.

Special legislation would be initiated to resolve disposal/transfer of weapons at the time of the owner's death.

and so on . . . . .

But to threaten to remove the guns now in possession by it's citizens?

Bad move imo.

BAD move.

CC

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Reply It's too late to try to take American citizens guns away . . . . (Original post)
akaConcernedCanuk Aug 2019 OP
rampartb Aug 2019 #1
Currentsitguy Aug 2019 #2
shogun Aug 2019 #3
Currentsitguy Aug 2019 #4
shogun Aug 2019 #6
D26-15 Aug 2019 #5
akaConcernedCanuk Aug 2019 #7
D26-15 Aug 2019 #8
Banshee 3 Actual Aug 2019 #9
D26-15 Aug 2019 #10
D26-15 Aug 2019 #11
Daves Not Here Man Aug 2019 #12
Banshee 3 Actual Aug 2019 #14
SatansSon666 Aug 2019 #13

Response to akaConcernedCanuk (Original post)

Wed Aug 7, 2019, 02:07 PM

1. always with the negative ways

removing current stockpiles of weapons would require ruthless efficiency, the kind that we refused to use in Iraq or Afghanistan, either of which would be much better places if we had killed 1.000.000 men who refused to give up their weapons.

using the same logic which resulted in the Hiroshima bombing, killing any afghan in possession of a firearm would have been the correct, merciful, righteous thing to do.

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Response to akaConcernedCanuk (Original post)

Wed Aug 7, 2019, 02:32 PM

2. It's already almost impossible to buy a fully automatic weapon

They have to be made before 1986, require a lengthy and onerous approval process, and generally cost tens of thousands of dollars, as well as a special tax to the Federal Government.

I suspect the other things you mentioned will go nowhere. They are most likely Unconstitutional and regardless would take years of litigation, all with virtually zero compliance.

Any attempt to seize presently held weapons will result in a nationwide bloodbath.

Speaking personally there is no way in hell I will ever allow any government agency or official to have a record of what I own now, or any time in the future, and I know I speak for millions of others.

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Response to akaConcernedCanuk (Original post)

Wed Aug 7, 2019, 03:06 PM

3. How many fully automatic guns are used in crimes in the US?

They are still legal in many states, but as another poster mentioned, they're expensive and time consuming to get approved by local government.

If I had to guess, most crimes are committed with handguns so it sounds like incremental gun laws are being pushed based on which headlines tug the most at Americans hearts. No one ever comes out and demands handguns be banned.

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Response to shogun (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 7, 2019, 03:37 PM

4. It's worse than that

There is a concerted effort afoot to try to confuse people about the difference between a semi-automatic and a fully automatic rifle. This is why you keep hearing of AR-15's and semi-auto AK's as "weapons of war" and "machine guns" even though no military on earth uses them. They would be fools with a death wish to do so.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 7, 2019, 03:51 PM

6. I know

Iam posing the question though to teach people.

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Response to akaConcernedCanuk (Original post)

Wed Aug 7, 2019, 03:44 PM

5. As a Canadian, did you ever want our guns taken away?

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Response to D26-15 (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 7, 2019, 05:12 PM

7. Can't say as I ever considered it as an option/solution . . . .

As another poster in this thread indicated, any national effort to take away presently owned firearms would result in a bloodbath - and that wouldn't be good for either country.

USA's biggest problems with guns/violence is it's culture - as George Carlin once said - "We are a war-like nation - We just can't stand NOT fucking with somebody . . . " - and, I'm afraid that nationalistic trait appears to be turning inward, at a rapidly and alarming increased rate.

(sigh)

CC

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Response to akaConcernedCanuk (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 7, 2019, 06:09 PM

8. "It's too late to try to take American citizens guns away ."

When was a good time to try to take American citizens guns, CC?

Also, you might think of George Carlin as a statesman, but in reality he was just a comedian.

(sigh)

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Response to akaConcernedCanuk (Original post)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 12:46 AM

9. You are as sharp as a bowling ball. Machineguns cannot be made for civvies since 1986

In the 85 YEARS of the NFA National Firearms Act of 1934 there have been 380,000+ registered full automatic firearms (machineguns)

3 have been used in crimes, thats 0.0007894736842105263% of the total of registered machineguns

1 MAC11 used by a Police Officer to murder a CI Confidential Informant with his personal SMG
1 MAC11 used by a Asian Doctor to murder a rival in love with his personal SMG
1 MAC11 used by a Police Officer to rob an armored truck with his personal SMG

all 3 crimes happened in the late 1970's early 80's


No one cares what a Canadians opinion of US laws is, worry about your own gun laws

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 12:49 PM

10. :::

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 12:58 PM

11. Also, GREAT sig line.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 04:13 PM

12. Grrrr...Canadians!! Grrrrrrr!

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Response to Daves Not Here Man (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 12:07 AM

14. His own fault for posting an asinine claim I'd bet if a canuck said Obama sucked you'd be pissed

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Response to akaConcernedCanuk (Original post)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 07:05 PM

13. One thing about Canadian gun laws.

They have a card they apply for.
They can buy any accepted guns they want if they have their card.
They can lose the card if they break the firearms laws.

For that to work here, you'd have to have a firearms card issued at birth, we already do, 2nd amendment.
It's not a right in Canada. They could make guns illegal in Canada with the stroke of a pen.
That would be a shame for you, but it happens.

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